[QUIZ-06] Do you recognize this shield..?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 18:59

[Rules of the Quiz at my pleasure and first and only prize as usual]

I want two answers: 1: Where can we find this shield (Venetian)? and 2: What do you know about it?

Check the picture: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/S3501365b_72.jpg



The score in this new series of Quizzes: Darrener2: 1,5 pt. Japeal: 1 pt. Ianwfs: 0.5 pt. Hatty: 1/4 pt, Bill: 1/4 pt.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 19:07

Hans. Your mathematical skills leave a lot to be desired. I had 1.5 points from the previous quizzes. Please get your calculator out. )

Hatty


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 19:21

I agree with Bill, I have a power cut, my keybpoard is not working, the answer is...9.



Oh have I gone in a bit early?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 19:24

Everybody noticed that the first series of Quizzes (prizes: free seats at one of my lectures) was ended and a new series had started. Everybody - except Bill. OK, here you are: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/score_Bill.jpg

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 19:29

Forget to write: Answers before 8 pm, Saturday, March 6, 2010.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 20:58

I'm afraid this is necessary... Hint: Archbishop

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 21:38

Is it something to do with the coat of arms of the bishop?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 21:41

No, Bill. I know that religion is not your forte, but even you should know that a bishop is not an archbishop (my message 6).

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 21:48

St. Mama's Monastery.

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 22:06

Dear DC,



One can find this Venetian coat of arms on one of the buildings (currently private) which formely had formed the Archbishop's Palace in Lefcosa.

Similar one is on the Venetian column in front of Konak.

Hatty


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 22:07

Bill, I think we need a IPC, Immovable Points Commission

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 22:12

Hatty. You are right. I'm going to have a few words with the commissioner of quizzes for the trnc. This has to stop. )

Hatty


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 22:27

Has this something to do with Gregory of Cyprus

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 22:38

How do we know this shield is even in Cyprus? We need more proof not just a photograph. There are lots of good architectural plasterers around the world.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 22:45

Got it; It was the combined efforts of the North Eastern Italian sinking City of Venice in cahoots with the submerging western sea frontal towns of Holland that they formed a rugby team producing the engraved emblem! God knows what happened to the dyke's!



Richard

darrener2


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Message Posted:
05/03/2010 23:24

Archbishop's Palace Lefkosa

I think it could be the shield/arms of Niccolo Dandolo who was the Governer of Nicosia. He was killed in 1570 by the forces of Lala Mustafa Pasha, and his head was sent in a basket to Marco Antonio Bragadino who was the Venetian Commander of Famagusta.

Hatty


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 00:09

James the Bastard, archbishop from 1456 to 1459

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 12:44

1st Prize.............A day out in the comany of DC (lunch included)



2nd Prize............A week in the comapny of DC (all meals included)



3rd Prize.............A year in the company of DC (all bills included)



good luck one and all.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 12:53

RE msg 18, Tiggy: The third time you tried to write "company" you were lucky!

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 13:01

Sorry Hans...me pees is not working as it should....well s oted, you deserve a rize!



have a good weekend mate.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 14:09

Tuggy. I never s otted it either. How eculier! I think you should get a rize. )

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 14:09

It's a shield of a Venetian Warrior.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 14:12

Hatty that made me chuckle...immovable points lol.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 14:22

D2. It's not the Archbishop's Palace Lefkosa.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 14:24

Nice one No1.



Sunny day here.....off out now for the day.



LOL to one and near enough all !!



atrick

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 14:40

Omg, I have to read every post! And I only see a lack of knowledge... And a derailed form of the dreaded British sense of humour... I'll ask Izzet for the status of Quiz-moderator, so I can stop all this nonsense...

P.S. Five more hours till it's 8 pm locally. No winner yet... I''m off to Jessic's to find some Dutch courage...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 15:06

...I'll ask Izzet for the status of Quiz-moderator, so I can stop all this nonsense...



Hans, I hope he doesn't close this thread down. )

mamachina


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 15:50

This shield is on the north side of St Sophia Cathedral in Nicosia - the Archbishops palace. Its an elegant marble panel in early Italian Renaissance styple (Venetian) showing a shield beneath an mitre, surrounded by honeysuckle with a gryphon rampant!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 16:54

Mal. You took the words right out of my mouth.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 19:58

RE msg 10, Clarissa2: (...) Similar one is on the Venetian column in front of Konak. (...)

=> Sorry, Clarissa2! You confused two shields. The right answer is in the link I'll provide below.

RE msg 16, Darrener2: (...) Archbishop's Palace Lefkosa (...)

=> Right - but the rest of your post is wrong...

RE msg 24, No1Doyen: (...) It's not the Archbishop's Palace Lefkosa. (...)

=> It seems that Bill is the only participant who does NOT know where to find the shield...

RE msg 28, mamachina: (...) This shield is etc (...)

=> Right! 1 pt for you!

In this link you'll find the complete "where & what" answer (it's about number 4): http://www.allcrusades.com/CASTLES/CYPRUS/NICOSIA/TEXT/archbishops_palace/archbishops_palace_txt_1.html

More here: http://www.allcrusades.com/CASTLES/CYPRUS/NICOSIA/TEXT/archbishops_palace/archbishops_palace_txt_2.html

The score in this new series of Quizzes: Darrener2: 1,5 pt. Japeal: 1 pt. Mamachina: 1 pt. Ianwfs: 0.5 pt. Hatty: 1/4 pt, Bill: 1/4 pt.

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darrener2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:00

It is on the first floor wall of the buildings formerly the Archbishop's house, but now in private hands, in Lefkosa.

Apart from describing the sheild in heraldic terms I cannot think what else to say. Except that maybe there might be a link with Perugia in Italy. (The gryphon rampant.)

darrener2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:02

Cross posting, sorry! You were a bit quick there DC.

I was obviously looking too hard.

darrener2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:04

Don't I get a point for it's location? You did say I was correct.

darrener2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:06

So whose coat of arms is it???

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:06

Hans. Message 30. That's a harsh statement. I did know where to find it but I'm having keyboard problems. Can I have another .25 of a point?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:16

RE msg 35, No1Doyen: (...) Can I have another .25 of a point? (...)

=> Childish behaviour again. But OK, I'll test your popularity as a Moderator here. Is there anyone who supports Bill..?! (Be careful, dear participants, I don't..., I think...).

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:20

Re: Msg 33,

Darrender 2,

I named the location first (see Msg10), and I am not asking for the point!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:20

RE msg 33, Darrener2: (...) Don't I get a point for it's location? You did say I was correct. (...)

=> No, I did NOT say you were correct. In my msg 30 I said: "Right - but the rest of your post is wrong". This was the question: "I want TWO answers: 1: Where can we find this shield (Venetian)? and 2: What do you know about it?"

P.S. Do you happen to be related to Bill..?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:21

...... Is there anyone who supports Bill..?! (Be careful, dear participants, I don't..., I think...)...



Such a shame. There was I thinking we were friends!

Hatty


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:24

Who's is the shield??

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:24

Give Darrener the points, she can have mine too.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:26

Hatty. Hans is shielding the answer from us. )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:30

RE msg 40, Hatty: (...) Who's is the shield?? (...)

=> I wish we knew more, Hatty. I'm afraid all we know is on the pages about (the remains of) the Archbishop's palace (Enlart, 1899 and Jeffery, 1918). See the links in my msg 30.

darrener2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:32

Never mind Bill. ;-(

Thanks for the kind offer of your points but you keep them. ;-) When the goal posts stand still you may need them!



Fiona

darrener2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:35

DC wrote: "=> I wish we knew more, Hatty. I'm afraid all we know is on the pages about (the remains of) the Archbishop's palace (Enlart, 1899 and Jeffery, 1918). See the links in my msg 30."



So nobody actually knows for certain?

In which case, I could still be right about Niccolo Dandolo ;-) ;-) ;-)



D2

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:39

Fiona. You are right. I'm awarding you 2 points. No sorry 3 points because you know more than the quizmaster.

darrener2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:43

Clarissa2 wrote:

"Re: Msg 33,



Darrender 2,



I named the location first (see Msg10), and I am not asking for the point!"



I am sorry Clariss2, I hadn't seen your post.

Quite right. You should get the point for the location.

D2

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:52

I think Hans is getting confused. He should stop visiting Jessics whilst these quizzes are active. )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:56

RE msg 45, Darrener2: (...) In which case, I could still be right about Niccolo Dandolo ;-) ;-) ;-) (...)

=> Highly unlikely/definitely not. Nicolo or Niccolò Dandolo was the Venetian military commander of Nicosia when the Ottoman Turks attacked the city in 1570. There is no reason to believe he ever inhabited the Archbishop's palace or had the right to place his arms in the wall for one reason or another. He is believed to have lived in the area near the Venetian Column in Nicosia.

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:57

Re: Msg 47,

Yes, darling Darrender 2!!!!!

And note that msg 28, does not say anything about the coat of arms, just describes it! But we all could clearly see what it depicts. Which was NOT the question!!!!!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
06/03/2010 20:59

Bill! Do something..!