Sweetwater Bay On Topic

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
05/03/2010 23:38

Please keep comments appropriate for SWB. It seems that if a moderator likes he can decide a thread has gone off topic. One or two messages on the last thread were perhaps ruined by an outsider. In my opinion a moderator should delete inappropriate postings rather than ruin a thread of useful information.Perhaps some moderators are power mad. So should we use another Forum then caps and chappeses?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/03/2010 23:54

well said rocky . this AJ geezer is power mad . he closed the last post because two or three sweetwaterbay owners were talking about fishing .



this loopy lou guy who has jack shit to do with SWB dont even get a warning and hes the one whos been slagging me off !



time to move on to another forum i say



andy

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
06/03/2010 00:04

on topic : we today recieved our statement of account from RMS . we will be transfaring our due fees for maintainence in the next few days .



andy

kenny b


Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 211

Message Posted:
06/03/2010 00:36

The SWB threads over the past 2 years have been very informative for SWB owners and prospective buyers.

The thread consistently receives the most hits.Just because someone chose to interfere with SWB owners postings they closed the thread down cant believe that.

Punish the the individual not the SWB owners and all those that enjoy visiting the SWB site in the TRNC and reading their postings on 44

Keep posting

Keep smiling

Kennyb

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
06/03/2010 01:05

Don't forget there is a Sweetwater Bay Owners facebook group at http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/group.php?gid=6741911401&ref=mf

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
06/03/2010 08:39

Maybe of interest to you

The forum on here is very good and gives all local news and you can have an uninterupted thread of your own

http://www.glencoecyprus.com takes you straight on to it

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
07/03/2010 09:36

whoops I received an email presumaly in response to how I opened this thread. It appears that the last one was closed because a number of postings related to carp fishing. So please only post items of interest to SWB owners. Andy it seems as if you want to mention carp fishing you need another thread. So I guess we can only discuss the thread heading which is Swetwater Bay On Topic...what nonsense

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
07/03/2010 13:20

Rocky

No need to "carp" on about it Sweety............

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
07/03/2010 21:50

lets keep (net) on topic please nothing fishy

Blackpoolfan


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Message Posted:
07/03/2010 21:57

Where is Andy F ?? has he got the hump or has he been sent to the dugout by his favourite moderator i wonder........

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
07/03/2010 22:33

BF andy is in the sin bin and not currently at Sweetwater Bay (had to mention that to keep on topic)

Blackpoolfan


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Message Posted:
07/03/2010 22:44

Ah that explains it then, thanks Sweety on topic not a show of affection rocky honest!!!!

Arthur


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Posts: 687

Message Posted:
07/03/2010 22:56

I just hope Zhivago has something useful to say about SWB, otherwise he may be doing a stint in Siberia!



Does anyone know whether the final road surface has been laid?

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
08/03/2010 20:00

will try and find out as my bro has spent the last two months on site and is still there, so he will be able to speak to the swb team.



regards sweep

Arthur


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Posts: 687

Message Posted:
08/03/2010 20:17

thanks Sweep

sweep


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Posts: 241

Message Posted:
08/03/2010 20:33

hi arthur



just got my reply from my bro.



He was told in 2 weeks , 6 weeks ago, so have asked him to keep me updated if it happens, i will post if the tarmac starts rolling.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 12:17

I am [with difficulty] trying to join the SWB group on facebook- my limited and somewhat Luddite capabilities are showing through. However, to pick up on comments on there [as I can't post as yet], it is a bit precipitate to put the fact that The Bay Inn is closed down to certain people. Being a [mostly] holiday home complex necessarily means that the bar can only be viable during busy periods. Much as the criticism of the "permies" on this is misplaced, so must it also be stated of Danielle's comments about the planning of The Bay Inn. Is she privy to what Mike's plans were, and whether they were for the place to be open all year?

I'm equally fed up with comments being made as to "you'll find out". If I had some information of benefit to the owners as a whole [even those who have me on their hit list], I would communicate it. No answers have been forthcoming from SWBOA on the questions posed by Sheila [Mint1955] or myself- TBC

Arthur


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Posts: 687

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 12:36

If SWBOA want backing from owners as a whole, they need to communicate and answer questions openly and honestly- at least that would be a starting point.

I appreciate that different owners will have varying objectives, however we must all want the site well run and cost efficient. For SWBOA to arbitrarily decide [via their "Budget"] when the lights will be turned off, and the pool will not be heated is simply not on. Equally the stated objective of "working with RMS" appears to be the exact opposite- I am practically blind in one eye but can see the intention is, regardless of performance to replace RMS. Perhaps we could be told whom SWBOA intend to appoint.

The bad feeling has all started because certain individuals have, right from the beginning, even before RMS took up management of the site, had their own agenda. It is noteworthy that when challenged on specific postings, those people go very quiet.

zhivago


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 17:20

Arthur there have been many allegations from all sides and the worst include comments that someone is going to run away with all the funds, another suggested a resident was stealing swb property on site. Quite frankly I am disappointed with the non cooperation and the prolonged silent pauses from SWBOA in relation to your questions. I am sure we could all work together as we all have the same interest the success of SWB. Also it appears that both RMS and SWB have historically selected which emails they respond to. Whilst SWB is a super development it is like the world spoilt by a few people. Think I may sell and move somewhere more civilised.

Arthur


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Posts: 687

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 17:23

Rocky- you posted under your "Zhivago" persona !!

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 18:27

not me gov I heard that Zhivago has been on an English course as he has a property interest in SWB and was criticised for his spelling. Pleased to see his English is improving.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 19:47

hi honey im HOME!



see my post on the face book thingy , why anyone would jump to such a conclusion about the bay inn is behond me .



andy

Blackpoolfan


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Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 20:21

welcome back Andy F the spy who came in from the cold...................

Dickeymint


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Posts: 9

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 21:04

heard a rumour the bar is closed at SWB is this true ?

Woodspeckie


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Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 21:28

zhivago is a quick learner with his English wonder where he had his lessons?

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
10/03/2010 21:38

Apparently closed until Easter. Nothing more so we can all have a great summer

Dickeymint


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Posts: 9

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 00:04

thanks mint1955

mint1955



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Posts: 988

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 01:17

Dickeymint are you a SWB owner? We have a facebook group if you are.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 16:07

sheila dont waste your time on dicky its a scammer ( someone whos someone else on 44 ) if you know what i mean

Dickeymint


Joined: 05/01/2010
Posts: 9

Message Posted:
11/03/2010 21:34

Mint1955 no we are not SWB owners but we have friends who are, we are meeting them a week on Sunday and they seemed a bit disappointed the bar may not be open,cheers.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 09:43

Message 25, Rockys has been giving him english lessons... via a mirror



Come on Rocky own up mate you've been caught out

zhivago


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 22:20

millzer rocky gave m ebook on English very helpful man. if you worry about my identity who are you..own up are you Sweetwater Bay owner? I also possted on Sweatwater flyscreen thread , my Inglish improve yes?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 22:59

anyone read the article in this weeks echonomist ? very positive indeed.

an accountant from nicosia reckons after a political settlement proprty prices north and south will boom, says cyprus could become the " bermuda of the med "!



now for anyone who aint been to this island in the mid atlantic its sort of EXPENSIVE !

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 23:15

Andy, you're having me on now. The Economist? More like Carp Monthly I'd have thought!!



As a chartered accountant I would say don't believe all accountants you hear. Remember most won't tell you the answer, they'll ask what answer you want!

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 23:19

arfur the article was,nt done by the accountant it was written by a jounalist for the echonomist , at the end they asked his oppinion thats all .



and dont try insult me that im not or should not be reading the said publication , i take a great interest in world affairs

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
12/03/2010 23:51

Andy F it does not need an accountant or an economist to advise you that in the event of a settlement of the Cyrprus issue there could mean a boom in NC property prices. I can tell you than for nothing. When and if all the fears over NC properties has subsided (if the properties themselves dont subside) you only have to look at other med property prices for comparison. In addiiton Banks and others will be prepared to grant mortgages when the title is deemed safe. This will also stimulate the market. I was looking at properties in Sardinia before I purchased in NC and they are probably 4 to 5 times higher so NC was worth the gamble for such an unspoilt environment. Also Cyprus must attract the discerning traveller we dont want the 18-30 brigade or others similar. Anyway Andy I used to read the Angling Times when I was a youngster catching roach so I am not aware of the Carp Monthly that Arthur refers to perhaps he is a secret fisherman.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
13/03/2010 10:57

Andy- I was only teasing!



The only bits I read in Accountancy [the journal of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England & Wales] is the disciplinary page- i.e. to find out who has been a naughty boy!



I think Rocky has revealed himself as a closet angler. Afraid I've only been fishing once- I did catch a huge trout, but is was in a lake with "tame" fish so I assume it was a lot easier than what you do.

Alexo


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 04:59

Reference the message's 13 to 16, the resurfacing of the roads at SWB.



In May 2009 I was told that the final layers of the road surface were to be laid down once all the heavy trucks had stopped coming to site and there would just be private cars and large vans etc.



I was told that this was imminent, possibly within the next week or two but when I returned in August of 2009 it had still not happened but I was told once again that it was due to be done in the next couple of weeks but judging from your postings it seems it is still outstanding.



Whilst we are on the subject of roadways, does anyone know if and when the approach road from the highway to the site is to be completed, I was informed by SWB that would also be re-laid once the construction activities were completed as all the trucks etc would definitely damage the surface, I now believe we have reached that stage but what about the road?



Good luck to all,



Alex.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 07:28

Message 32, yeah yeah Rocky whatever u say

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 12:00

alexo



dont think the access road is getting done, i am sure if you email edith direct she will be able to answer with a correct accurate answer on this one.



i will email my bro who is over there and ask him to try and find out.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 12:21

Alexo youve been quiet when are you next at SWB? Cant imagine SWB will tarmac the access road it would cost an arm and a leg try getting a quote for your drive in the UK its cheaper to lay carpet. If SWB have not handed money over for the water meters even though people have paid for them on completion and.they have not tarmaced the roads on site, I would question if there is a cashflow problem?? Can RMS confirm that the maintenaince fees for the empty properties has been paid to RMS?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 15:02

ive had the same answer about the road surface, everytime i asked ( about six times ) "its to be done in the next week or two " every answer to a question relating to something being done is " next week or two ".



latest is everyone will be e-mailed in next day or two regarding the official owners association thats now been set up !



by the way we have paid our maintainence , two years up front . after all the hassel we had getting a invoice for it ( several phone calls ) when we finnaly got it and transfered the funds we got another e-mail saying we should have paid six weeks ago and would we pay ASAP!

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 15:43

thats interesting Andy I thought we had to pay 12 months up front as a Bond on completion, well thats what I was told and did because it was in my final invlice...so how come you had a different arrangement? Does this mean that some owners who have not completed have not paid for water meters also. Why do some owners get preferential treatment or is this yet another c..k up?

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 15:51

rocky ive paid £1440 a years fee and the bond sorry not two years upfront

andy

Gonzo


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 17:07

I don't really understand the point of the bond - if we pay our fees on time why should we pay a bond up front ?

andy-f


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Message Posted:
17/03/2010 17:22

gonzo , its to cover the company for cash sortfall , its a normal pratice in turkish cyprus but not sure about else where .



andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 17:24

I will be visiting NC in the not too distant future. I think there are a number of issues to be resolved as to whether all owners are being treated equally & fairly, such as the delay on fitting water meters. I e-mailed Edith on 24th February on the subject of water meters and regret to say I have not had a reply.

Unfortunately the lack of response is at the least unhelpful, at worst enables an "us and them" situation to flourish. I appreciate that some issues are down to the response of contractors, but I fail to understand why [as an example] the final road surface is always "in a couple of weeks".

The lack of response and delays do not help- I'm afraid it comes down to communication, which hasn't been a strong point with SWB. I wouldn't mind [so much] being given a promise not kept [such as the date for the final road surface], as long as we were told why it didn't happen, and when it finally will be done- and is then done.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 17:31

arfur im guilty as charged , " me no meter me no pay "



i have paid for one and i have asked them to install it but " the SWB charity " seem to feel i should have free water .



andy

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 18:53

Just looked on my web cam the tarmac machines are arriving wey hey

andy-f


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Message Posted:
17/03/2010 19:01

taking the piss you rocky ?

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 19:36

No Andy haven't you got a web cam fitted up yet?? they are sweeping the roads and it will all be done in 2 weeks.

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 19:56

alexo



reply form my bro on the tarmac on the access road, he has asked and the section of road directly outside the complex will be relayed but not all the way up to the main road access.



regards sweep

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 20:51

Hi Lee that has always been the answer, it never was going to be to the road. Lets hope the site roads do get done soon though.

Sheila

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 21:05

hi all



after requesting the sand pit at the childrens area be changed to a soft cleanable surface as it was a serious hazard due to cats using it as a toilet i have had some good news they are going to do this.



i think a big thank you to rms / swb for taking action on this serious issue and helping protect our children form the dangers of toxiplasmosis and other horrible diseases left behind by animals.



regards sweep.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 22:10

lee dont tell me, its being done in two weeks ?

mint1955



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Posts: 988

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 22:37

What will they put there instead that cats wont use? Or will they put a rubber surface like we have in th eUK sometimes?

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 22:47

rubber sounds sensible sheila although in two weeks there may be some tarmac left wottufink Andy

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 22:51

I have had an email from RMS and they confirm that SWB have paid on the empty properties which is brilliant news. Being an Ex Banker I guess I am a little suspicious over financial matters.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 23:03

regarding the final tarmac , andy k did tell me on a couple of occasions that the final tarmac can only be done when some person from the local gouverment signs the site off , this was why they were fussing over people doing modifications to their proprties . apparently when he turns up he can refuse to sanction final touchs like the road surfaces if they find something not on original plans.



andy

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 23:20

andy



i bet its done quicker than you can catch a carp!!! ;)

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 23:25

hey thats too fishy the mods will shut us down if you mention fish they must be caught off sweetwater bay Andy are there Carp in the see in the Tatlisu area?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 23:46

lee we are having a match in summer at arapkoy , i will eat raw what you catch lol



rocky there are no carp in any sea appart from fresh water seas ( lake superior , great bear lake ) are classed as "freshwater seas "

the resevoires in northern cyprus all hold carp , ive been told about one very close to SWB and ive found it on google earth so ill be having a bash here in june .



andy

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/03/2010 23:56

anyway this is like old times , loads of posts , rather post on here than that crap face book thingy



andy

sweep


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Posts: 241

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 11:16

Hi andy



are you over in aug if so well up for it (so we dont get closed down by moderatiors i will have to mention, lets say what colour is the tarmac going to be at swb ;).



if you have time scan and email some directions over and maybe a brief hand drawn map of the lakes you keep finding on google earth you know the ones with the tarmac around them just like swb.



sweep

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 12:02

Crap facebook thingy? LOL just trying to bring owners together but yes it's not everyones cup of tea.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 19:06

lee are you not out for half term may into june ? if not we will go in august . its better if i take you to these waters , one of them the lake at gonedere was hard to find .



on topic , had e-mail from maria today who informs me andy kirkwood as taken leave for two months due to health issues ? anyone know anything ?



also says a sam butcher is in charge ?



andy

Gonzo


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 19:37

Marieta also told me Andy had been unwell past couple of months and had left the company.

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 20:00

hi andy



i am off to haven for easter and booked up for france in may so no chance i can squezze it in with only 27 days holiday allowance it will be just aug visit this year to swb see you in aug.



sam butcher wasnt she in eastenders before getting nicked and locked up!!!!

sweep


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Posts: 241

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 20:10

andy



eat your words mate, the playground is allready 50% complete.

mint1955



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Posts: 988

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 20:22

Hi Lee What are they putting on it?

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 21:03

block paving with a rubber matting on the top hopefully similar to what we have in blighty, my bro is there so getting updates daily on the site, all good up to now.



this can be easily cleaned with hoses and detergent.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 22:16

Thats fantastic, the sand was a lovely idea but not practical especially with the amount of cats on site. Do you think Joe will send some photos when its done.

x

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 22:18

lee tell your brother to ask them dig a carp lake , it could act as a soakaway/ relief for when it flloods . a water feature in the middle of the complx would add a lot of character , what you think ?



and me and you would be in charge of the fishery



andy

sweep


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Posts: 241

Message Posted:
18/03/2010 23:12

andy



i have allready started the campaign, the best idea yet on cyp44



i carnt believe it took you so long to think of this!,



just think of the potential for dare i say it fishing over there



mint he will take pics as it is completed, and the roads if he is still there but he is due back 2012 for the olympics so might be back before it start rolling it of the wagons.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
19/03/2010 22:06

spoke with mike today , told me the tarmac machines are on site and the final tarmac will be done next tuesday / wednesday , great at last !



didnt mention when the big earth moving machines were due on to start me and lees carp lake .



andy

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
22/03/2010 19:18

Note from Mike ..... Just to keep you in the picture, the final tarmac will be laid tomorrow and the pool heated for Easter, as this has been requested by a number of owners.



So would love to hear all the news and see some new pictures on the facebook group

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
22/03/2010 21:10

i spoke to him today , says we will all receive info on the official owners assc this week he thinks . ive had another e-mail from the other one ( deleted it )



andy

Alexo


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
23/03/2010 02:07

Reference message 41,



Rocky,



I am hoping to be back in Cyprus in May for at least a couple of weeks or so and maybe this time the snagging work will be done or at least partially done.



Things have been a bit hectic here lately as we are bringing a project to completion in April and we shall then be relocating back to Saigon sometime in June or thereabouts.



I’m glad to hear that the roads are about to be re-laid in SWB but dismayed about the road from the highway to SWB, the last time I was there it was a mess and seemed to be getting worse but I do remember asking about this section of road very early on in the development and I mentioned all the heavy plant and construction vehicles would tear the road up during the construction phase, it was at this time that I was told SWB would make the road good after all their heavy plant and machinery plus their heavy vehicles were finished at SWB as it would be this type of traffic that would be the cause of any damage.



CONTINUED

Alexo


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Posts: 95

Message Posted:
23/03/2010 02:11

CONTINUED FROM MESSAGE 78



I will post our arrival dates once they are confirmed and would love to meet up with anyone from SWB who may be there at the same time as us.



Good luck to all,



Alex.

Alexo


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
23/03/2010 02:26

CONTINUED FROM MESSAGE 78



I will post our arrival dates once they are confirmed and would love to meet up with anyone from SWB who may be there at the same time as us.



Good luck to all,



Alex.

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
23/03/2010 10:13

Would it be a better idea if we phoned RMS and SWB directly - we have sent emails relating to the water meters - no response - about our snagging - no response - about our pool cover - no response (well we have only been waiting a year!!!) - we only read about Andy's departure from reading Cyprus44.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
23/03/2010 18:58

jakki we have all been moaning about about the lack of info for the last two years , i dont and havent sent a e-mail for a year as you know it will not be answered.

i ring mike and he answers is phone straight away and has time to discuss any issues with me , thats why i trust and respect the guy .



andy

sweep


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Posts: 241

Message Posted:
23/03/2010 19:40

same here andy



i asked mike to sort out the cat litter tray at the kids play area , no sooner asked and somthing is being done.



carnt fault him or connie think they are good for swb and more than happy with them if you look on other threads some sites are having a nightmare with there managment team, i have only good things to say about mike and his team.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
24/03/2010 12:37

We have never had a problem with SWB or RMS staff but I guess its all down to how you treat people!

jakki



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Posts: 865

Message Posted:
24/03/2010 13:43

...well I don't think I have ever been rude to any of them Sheila - I'd rather be someone's friend than someone's enemy.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
24/03/2010 14:06

Wasn't meaning you, just in general. I agree frustrating when you cant get a reply on email etc but never had a problem on phone or face to face.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
24/03/2010 14:18

I have just seen some photos of SWB gardens they are looking really nice

Rhodesian


Joined: 29/06/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
24/03/2010 15:42

Re message 83, that isn’t quite the whole truth is it, Sweep?



On 4 February, you posted a message on the private forum asking the Committee to raise the question of the children’s play area as a serious health and safety issue.



When asked if you had complained about it, you replied, ”My brother mentioned it to Mike and he said they would be able to address the pit when funds are available, positive response but I think it needs pushing through.” (We know a number of others had also raised it with Mike and had the same response.)



The sand was discussed in the Committee Meeting on 7 February and on 14 February Shaun wrote to SWB about it, among a number of other issues.



It is now being rectified, although what the final result will be is still unclear as they are currently replacing the sand with concrete blocks.



TBC

Rhodesian


Joined: 29/06/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
24/03/2010 15:43

Other issues raised in Shaun’s letter which are now being rectified are:

• The pathway to the beach; the erosion has been filled in and compacted and a drain has been installed to take the water from the storm-water drain underneath the pathway;

• The tarring of the roads on site and in front of the office;

• The broken gates; Shaun was told these would be operational once the tarring is completed;

• The slow pace of ‘snagging’ and the poor quality of repairs; the arrival of Sam appears to herald a change.

Please let’s have credit where credit is due, Sweep!

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
24/03/2010 18:54

rhodesian



ok i will put it it right just for you as you like splitting hairs and pasting old postings.



thanks to the reidents asscoaction for pushing the playground issue through much appricated.



And i say it again thanks rms/swb for getting the work up and running



it is nice to be nice every now and again and saying thanks and i dont need others jumping on my back, wont bother next time



happy now!!!

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 01:15

Lee you should know by now that there is no way that he would publicly praise Mike, Connie, Edith or Andy. Its convenient to take the credit for work that was already on the list to be done!!!

Rhodesian


Joined: 29/06/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 08:05

1. All of the items on the list had been the subject of complaints by various people for months.

2. Sweeps posting was factually incorrect and completely one-sided.

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 11:41

message 91, 92



i will say it again



thanks to the residents assocation for helping push through the playground issue.



and thanks to rms / swb for acting on it and getting somthing done.



can you not say thanks without having to enter into a heated debate with other residents i couldnt care less who did what and why, what i am saying thanks again to all involved in getting it done much appricated as it was an important issue.



its not about who needs to take credit for whatever is the topic of the day it just shows work as a team and things get done.



can you not say thanks without having certian people jumping down your throat!!!!



regards sweep

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 12:02

Well said Lee and yes many thanks to SWB/RMS for the work being done.

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 12:37

mint no probs, this forum is for friendly and infomative discussions & debates not nit picking between residents as some people feel the need to do this.



to all



rms have advised the top layer of rubber matting will be fitted soon to the playground so it will be ready for the kids to use at easter.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 12:47

Hi Sienna, Where did you see the photos are they shareable?

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 12:55

Hi Mint I have emailed them to you !

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 16:57

hi sienna would you please e-mail them to me andyaerial@blueyonder.co.uk .



off to scotland now fishing in competion at lock ken so ill pick up all the gossip when i return monday .



andy

kenny b


Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 211

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 18:42

Good luck at Loche Ken

hope its as hot as it is here in Esentepe

keep posting

keep smiling

kennyb

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
25/03/2010 21:21

I s that Esentepe - Sweetwater Bay ? Just to keep it on topic

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
26/03/2010 11:26

Have a great time to all those visiting SWB this weekend and for the Easter break. Please let us have some updates on the Bay

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
26/03/2010 19:37

top layer of tarmac 40% complete as of today.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
29/03/2010 11:12

Please come and join in our facebook group for all owners at SWB.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=6741911401#/group.php?gid=6741911401



To discuss, share, help and mostly meet with other owners on SWB.



We now have a Ask Mike/FAQ topic



Mike has offered that if you have general site questions under the RMS remit that would benefit all owners then he will supply the answers for all to see.



This is so the same questions dont get asked over and over and allows people to check for info on FAQ before sending.



Sheila C41

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
29/03/2010 16:11

Golly Sheila you have lots of members now don't you!!



Please follow the link (above) for up-to-date info direct from the site.

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
29/03/2010 19:27

Arthur says it looks like the tarmac of the road is complete and is in the process of drying out - cars are not permitted on site at the present time.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
29/03/2010 23:10

anyone any photos of the new road surface ?



andy

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
30/03/2010 00:01

andy



have requested some, will have them soon i will email them over to you.

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
30/03/2010 16:43

Just checked Facebook - 67 members!!!!

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
30/03/2010 18:24

Just posted the FAQ's from Mike today on the Facebook site.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
31/03/2010 23:10

waw we have a completely new website ! its only nearly twelve months scince any new photos were added to the old one !



anyway post your thoughts on it



andy

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
01/04/2010 01:25

Thanks Andy it's good isn't it. Photos are lovely.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
01/04/2010 13:36

Mike has answered more FAQ's this morning ......



If there are SWB owners that dont use facebook but want to see the FAQ's and Mikes answers or be kept in touch with other owners plus get latest news from site then please let me know and I will email them directly when i post them on the group.



Or join in here

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=6741911401&topic=12441#!/group.php?gid=6741911401

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
03/04/2010 20:18

Joe Perry has kindly posted some photos of the new tarmac at SWB on the facebook group. Its looking good in the photos but would be good to hear from people onsite.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 00:05

We are having a discussion on the SWB Facebook group as to the BAY INN being open to the public , please come and join in at



http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=6741911401#!/group.php?gid=6741911401



Sweetwaterbay Owners facebook group was started so that we could get a commmunity going.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 20:16

For any owners not on the facebook group Mike from RMS has provided an official statement re The Bay Inn plus other issues.



To join click here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=6741911401#!/group.php?v=wall&gid=6741911401



All SWB owners welcome as this is a community space to meet your neighbours and make new friends on site.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 20:34

Hi Mark,

I will be over in 3 weeks please come and visit The Bay Inn it's a great meeting place. It will be good to meet people that love the place and have lived in NC for a while and to learn from them.

Sheila C41 SWB

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 20:35

Sorry wrong thread although it's still on topic

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 22:55

isnt it a bad state of affairs when the MD of the management company of this site as to post something like that, i feel sorry for him but he has the support of most owners as far as i see it and im sure he and us will all come thro it for the better .

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 23:02

I have to say I visited your site last week, the Bay Inn looks fantsatic wasnt open at the time, your gardens look really really nice. The whole site is very nice tarmac was all down



compared to a few sites I went too it is looking good for you all

Milou


Joined: 15/10/2007
Posts: 425

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 17:54

Andy-F

Mike had no right to invite the public onto the site at Easter - he has now caused a hornets’ nest – he has created this mess because he will not take the view of the majority of the owners. I want you to know that there are a vast number of people who don’t bother to post on this forum or on Facebook – these same people don’t mind a bar but don’t want the public to have free access to the site. Are you prepared to have an open and democratic vote?



regards

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 18:15

The answer to having a democratic vote is an emphatic yes. What people have objected to is Keith claiming to represent the majority of owners when, quite frankly no one has any knowledge of the views of "the silent majority". What people must accept is that if there is no public access, the bar will not be economically viable, therefore owners will not have a bar at which they can meet.

I am happy to go with the views of the majority on a one unit one vote basis; perhaps we can be enlightened [at long last] as to how many owners have "signed up" to SWBOA.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 18:30

Moira...... What mess...... Whats hornets nest ....... What vast number and Who are they....... I think all thats happened is now the issue is in the open more people are aware and your group is not getting its own way.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 22:54

I'm sorry Sheila, but do you seriously expect to get specific answers? It's a bit like the "several people" with cuts from the tiles in the swimming pool. I could go on at length about statements made which simply aren't backed up when they are challenged.

Rather than waste time, I think there needs to be steps put in place where an open vote takes place on the major issues. My immediate thoughts are:

1) are owners happy for outsiders using the bar [they may use toilets but not the other facilities]. This of course should be subject to review if there are any adverse occurences

2) are owners happy to entitle non paying owners a vote

3) are we happy that fundamental decisions such as major capital expenditure, changing management company etc should be on a majority vote

4) what powers should any owners committee have? are they there to inform or direct?

5) do owners want the pool heated at popular [but cool periods]

6) what time should streetlights go off

add as you think

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 23:48

moira , mike had no right to invite people from outside ? what sort of place is this site ? a secret sect where outsiders dare not tread , this is northern cyprus not siberia . with regard to the word you use " democratic" i didnt realise you new what it meant having listened to you and keiths rants and raves about everything relating to swb/rms and mike in particular over the last eighteen months.



anyway lets have a democratic vote on it and when you loose will you keep your gob shut or will you find another issue to kick up shit about?



andy

Arnold


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
12/04/2010 02:15

this sounds a great place for a bikers meet



can you tell me opening times etc

TekknoChicken



Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
12/04/2010 02:38

I'm with you there Arnold. If you know somewhere I can rent a bike & gear for a day, I wouldn't mind joining you for a ride.



Phil

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
12/04/2010 22:54

have to say we have been impressed by recent e-mails from sweetwaterbay . we have received two regarding out- standing snagging at our place , both from katie who i dont know and asking us to list any defects so sam butcher can get them sorted before our next stay. also she has made a date for sam to pop round to meet us .



also must add they responded to our e-mails in record time !



credit where credit due



andy and susan

zhivago


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 00:16

arnold and teck chicksen are you have bikers meeting at Bay Inn? pleez let me know when and wear itiz my bruther tore Cyprus en June and 60 Kiev Heills angles we like no wear we are welkom

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 03:15

Blimey Rocky (oops I mean 'zhivago') your english had improved a lot but has now gone downhill again!!!

Rhodesian


Joined: 29/06/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 13:19

Re Messages 121-124



Let me explain again - This is a GATED COMMUNITY. That means that it is for the ejoyment of us owners and invited guests only (and by 'invited guests', that means a reasonable number of people we personally know). Not I, not Arthur, not And-f and certainly not Mike - who is not an owner, but an employee - has the right to invite the general public onto the site.



Now what part of that do you not understand? Or would you like it translated into baby-talk for those whose IQ is evidently lower than their boot size?



Finally, Arthur, I do not claim to represent anyone other than myself and do not have to.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 13:53

No answers as usual.



As for "those whose IQ is evidently lower than their boot size", I think Andy F has a competitor for the job of UN Goodwill Ambassador......

Isabella


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 15:13

I am very surprised that you discuss Sweetwater Bay businress on an open forum. It will not help your development to be a successful one.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 15:33

Hi Irene,

Are you the couple from a nearby site that I met at New Year in The Bay Inn? I have been trying to get people to go over to the SWB Facebook page for discussing site issues etc.

Sheila x

Isabella


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 17:22

Yes I was. We had a super evening and thought the bar to be delightfully fitted out. Everyone made us feel so very welcome. I am sure the type of bar you have would not attract undesirables. If only owners are permitted to use the bar I think it will be difficult for it to survive.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 17:51

I am out again in a few weeks and will be in touch.

Sheilla x

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 17:56

hi isablla , glad you enjoyed your night at the bay inn . its only a very small number of people who want to stop the likes of your good selfs from popping in and having a drink and a chat , the reasons are deeper than

" We bought into a gated complex and its out of bounds to none residents" .



the vast majority of owners dont mind the likes of your selfs dropping by as trade is trade and the bar needs outside trade to survive. if it closes it will be bad for everyone .

Q . is there a site anywhere in turkish cyprus thats got a bar but excludes anyone other than owners /residents from using it ?



andy

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 01:08

Will all SWB owners please email Mike Armstrong at RMS and vote for your preference either yes allow outsiders on site to use the bar or no outsiders on site to use the bar. There will be no access to facilities apart from using the toilets.

Thank you Sheila

keith


Joined: 03/04/2007
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 11:43

What if someone invites someone to the bar you will not be able to stop them.



To make your bar succesfull you would have to let otheres in or you would lose it

keith

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 11:47

Exactly

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 12:38

message 137 there should be a third option vote for the bar to be relocated...to the roadside offices otherwise I would have to vote against

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 12:51

Hi Rocky, I guess so but who is going to pay to move it now as its set up already?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 14:13

Hi Mint I agree there will be cost implications on a move perhaps for MIke or the community..thats not the issue here. The point is an agreement which would have to be on a majority so all owners can move forward in one RA. I think it is an important vote to decide what the owners want and any owners should only have one vote even if they own two or thirty properties otherwise it would not be democratic. A holiday company could buy 50 or 60 and then they could do what they wanted ( eg wet t shirts competitions) so how would we feel then if club 18-60 got involved (ok Arthur dont answer)so its a no no to any block vote I feel for now and the future. I say yes to a bar but not where it is.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 14:17

It makes sense for any commercial activities to be roadside to increase the footfall of consumers. Where it is on site and with so many objections in due course I feel that Mike may close it and we will have lost this super facility. MOVE IT OR LOSE IT

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 15:56

leave the bar were it is , so i can order a pint and still keep an eye on my kids in the pool

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 16:25

dont drink and swim, the bar would be a better area for play pens for your kids and board games you should watch them all the time when they are swiming or by a pool so you aint got time to buy a pint. Hope it was in a plastic mug if we get broken glass in the pool it would have to be emptied and refilled..enormous cost haoppened on a complex in Sapin where I was an owner

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 19:20

leave it where it is . up the road you have joya next to the pool at crystal bay and across the road stevies bar next to pool on the sweet homes site . cant comment on merlins bar at seaterra reserve but guess what ? its open to non ressidents .



andy

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 20:21

Andy if thats the majority view fair enough as I said with a democratic vote we have to go with the majority otherwise we should not have invested in a community.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 21:11

same here richard. i have posted a comment on the face book group that myself and susan will abide and accept a majority verdict on this matter.



andy

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 21:16

rocky



my other half can watch whilst i drink, so i have plenty of time



everone else,



Q for everyone if you havent paid your fees should you be allowed to use the communial facilitys which everyone else is paying for.



Q for everyone if you havent paid your fees should you even be entiltied to any say over what happens in the communial areas (ie protesting over the bar etc , keeping joe public out).



just interested in peolples views as there will be a vote on the bar issue and i think it is only right if you do not contribute to the up keep of the facilitys PAY YOUR SERVICE CHARGE then your vote should be void or not allowed to have a vote.



i think these are valid points which need to be addressed.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 21:32

Sweep

If they don't pay maintenance they shouldn't use their apartment never mind the facilities until they do. We have the same problems as you it is common in the TRNC, trying to enforce it is a different matter. Name and shame, big fat notices on their apartment doors and windows and don't maintain their gardens if they have one.



As for the bar i would not want to run a business that is only allowed to serve residents, suicide in the current climate if you ask me. Before you know it they will be asking for electrified fencing, Crazy!!!!!!!!

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 21:43

bob on blackpool



like your up north thinking, it would end up like a scene from the great plauge of london with red crosses painted on doors, or was that for witches

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:00

Didn't they also paint your door if you had not your taxes so if your house set on fire the fire brigade would just stand there and watch it burn??? Maybe SWB could use the same tactic with your non-payers..............

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:10

Am I missing something here, surely anyone that invests money in a bar should be able to decide the way that he/she wants to do business. Although I have no interest in Sweetwater Bay I find it a little bit strange that residents should be dictating how the bar is run.

Just my ten penneth worth.

AJ

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:14

AJ

Beats me too????

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:26

and me !!!!, live and let live, be happy for what we have on our site.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:32

one point they are not residents they are owners !!!!! that presumable own a share of the whole site !

keith


Joined: 03/04/2007
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:40

If you own more than one apartment you should have more than one vote as you pay more than one maintenance fee.

although if you are not from trnc my understanding is that you can only own one apartment

keith

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:43

sienna

Regardless of whether they are residents or owners or what ever your required terminology is, my question is what right has anyone got to dictate to the bar owner (who has invested money in his/her business) on how he/she runs their business?

AJ

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:43

beats most of us , but its only a small group that are shit kicking . some of these people are anti-anything that the management company does or says . a democratic vote is under way ( i e-mailed ours today) ive posted as have many others that i will accept the verdict one way or the other but i havent seen any such post from the unofficial spokes persons for SWBOA ( the hunts) that they will accept the majority decision.



well over to you K+M?

domino


Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:46

In our opinion, the only vote should be whether "outsiders" are allowed on site to use the bar and we will vote in favour but, like most others, will go with the majority view. However, what should not be up for discussion is moving the bar. We were one of the earlier purchasers who chose our property knowing that it was always planned to site the bar next to the pool. If we were aware of this way back in late 2006 then everyone who has bought since knew where it was going to be. We agree with Sweep - adults and those with families want to sit and relax with a drink or keep an eye on their children in the pool - that's what holidays are all about and let's face it that's what most of us are doing at SWB - having a holiday.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:50

I agree to a point AJ. But it matters quite a lot because all of the owners own part of it not the MC hence the vote they are conducting.



I agree a business cannot exits without outsiders, BUT it does have everything to do with them as owners of the building ! perhaps they should have had the vote first, then the idea of relocation etc could have been put forward before it was completed.



It is owned by all as a communal area that if the site is split into equal shares

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 22:55

well said domino i agree 100% with your post 160 . i dont think mike will even consider the option of moving it . i was worried we would not even get a bar as no one would take the financial risk of setting it up so you can see why i support mike as he took this risk himself , inso doing we are all the better for it . shame certain others dont see it .

sweep


Joined: 11/10/2007
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 23:14

domino



i dont think for one minute that the bar should be moved, how many holiday resorts do you visit and see a bar along side the pool area i would say 99% of them from my experience it is the correct place for it and it should stay put were it is.



whats the point of having the bar half way accross the site away from the pool it is crazy to even think this is ok.



i for one will back mike and his bar all the way as will my bro who owns next door to me so two votes saying yes from us two.



mike has put a lot of hard work into this and i presume a lot of money too so i think he could do with all of our support with his venture at the end of the day it will make a day down at he pool that bit more pleasurable.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 23:14

just read a statement from mike on the facebook group regarding the bar , excellent post and you wonder why so many of us admire him so much for fighting so hard for what the majority want .

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 23:18

sienna



' But it matters quite a lot because all of the owners own part of it not the MC hence the vote they are conducting.'

I think I may have misread your posting, are you saying that all owners own part of the bar which is a business funded by a private individual?

I am sorry If I have misconstrued your reply but unless the bar is a standalone business that is not encumbered by any 3rd party obligations then all I can say is you are going to end up without any bar at all because no business person in their right mind would entertain running a bar that he/she had no control over.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 23:25

AJ I think that is the arguement in this case it depends how the site is parcelated - but nevertheless as an outsider the bar is nice and very well fitted out it would be a shame at this point and investements made in it not to have it up an running



- why cant you guys compromise and suck it and see and let Mike police the problems 'if' and when they occur. Then review the situation after the summer season, if all goes well let it stay if doesn't have a rethink how it can be policed better ! just and idea ! ) you may not have any issues at all.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 23:25

AJ you know that and i know that but this is sweetwaterbay an award winning development and we have a few strange minded individuals that reside here 24/7

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 23:32

sienna post 166 . mike is conducting a vote over the next few days so we will know one way or the other if outside trade will be allowed at the bay inn. " why cant you guys suck it and see "

well that would be the normal way most other sites would go about it but most other sites dont have the Hunts to put with !

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 23:54

I wish you guys well but I can not help thinking that life could be so much simpler for you all but hey the majority of Brit expats will never get to grips with living in another country and further more getting on with their own people. It really does sadden me.

AJ

Tatlisu4me


Joined: 26/01/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
15/04/2010 00:21

Are outsiders allowed in as I like a swim with my pint ?

Tatlisu4me


Joined: 26/01/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
15/04/2010 00:22

Only joking of course !

TekknoChicken



Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
15/04/2010 00:27

Thanks for the thoughts and support. Mike really has done an excellent job trying to provide everything we were promised by the developers. Let's hope common sense wins through

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
15/04/2010 11:51

AJ we are not looking for sympathy please keep on Topic

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
15/04/2010 11:59

re message. 160..what should not be up for discussion is the moving of the bar....that is your opinion but if it is proposed and seconded at a meeting then it should be up for discussion, I guess the majority would like a bar, another majority does not want a bar, some would like it moved so any discussion or vote should be on all options.

re message 158....there appears to be question over whether the developers own the building that is rented as a bar or if it is shared by the owners..interesting to know the facts

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 09:42

No moans no groans no insults paradise at last

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 21:53

anyone else having problem posting on the SWB facebook group ? tried four times to comment on johns question about larnaca airport but it wont display my posts .



have i been banned of here too ?



andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 22:15

Andy, despite your reputation as SWB's candidate as UN Goodwill Ambassador [although KH has made a late application], I don't think you've been banned. Was it you I saw berating some poor woman in Rochdale [after you were back in your limousine]? If it was, I wasn't convinced by your cheesy smile after you apologised- perhaps that's why you can't get on facebook

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 22:24

arfur mate , funny thing is i was in rochdale yesterday ! but it was doing contract works for PLP construction not electioneering like that commie fat scottish t--t

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 23:21

maybe its quiet on the face book thingy due to it having posting probs ? its adding and deleting posts at will ?



sheila is there a problem ?



andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 00:24

As ever Andy, your diplomacy is your strongpoint.

However, I think more at issue for SWB owners is the question of the payment or non payment of service charges by owners, particularly those who claim to represent the owners as a whole by being on the committee of SWB. I put a detailed posting on the facebook group page "peace & harmony at SWB" a proposed way forward, which, inter alia, suggested that those who claim to represent all owners should at least pay as everyone else. They may have their complaints against SWB which should be directed solely against the developer; they should not be a justification for non payment of service charges. Likewise, as is well documented, there are committee members of SWBOA who even before RMS took up management of the site wanted to remove them. Not paying service charges because they don't like RMS is not an excuse; if RMS are not performing all owners should be informed so that we as a body can make a decision. TBC

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 00:37

My posting on facebook was two weeks ago. As has become normal practice, when the views of the committee of SWBOA, or their payment or non payment of service charges has been challenged, they fall silent.

I would ask every owner of every nationality, do you want a committee potentially representing you when there are committee members who won't "play by the rules" in paying their service charges?

Do you want a committee when [in media I am sure they view such as facebook or cyprus44], they simply won't answer questions?

Whether you agree or don't with the site being open so outsiders can use the bar, the above are I feel fundamental issues. SWBOA or at least the committee members thereof have had two weeks to comment, in my opinion, their silence speaks volumes.

I would like to end this post by saying that if I am contacted by SWBOA members who as a prerequisite are prepared to pay their service charges, I would be delighted to work with them for the benefit of all owners.

Alexo


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
01/05/2010 11:18

Hello Folks,



Plans have changed, I will not be at sweetwater until the 18th of May and not the 11th as previously posted.

Will definitely be visiting the Bay inn, hope to meet other SWB owners or guests while I'm there.



Cheers,



Alex.

samblaney1985


Joined: 10/09/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 11:21

hi all





hope you are well.... is anyone out there at the end of may? x

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 20:22

hi sam

myself susan and alexandra are out for a week from may 29th



regards andy

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 23:41

Hi Andy we will be there 28th all being well and np more erections,whoops sorry eruptions I meant.... we will need to link up our business lap top who is the ISP provider if thats wot its called..our IT man needs to know as we need to log into our work pcs at home

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 23:52

rocky im a signal antenna installer not an IT computer buff !



all we did was go to the turkcell shop in girne and bought a dingle dongle ( great for erections ) !



see you soon



andy

Alexo


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
07/05/2010 04:11

I will be ther from the 18th of May until June 4th and my Daughter and my Grandson will be joining us for a week or so from May 27th.





Regards,



Alex.

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
09/05/2010 17:41

Hi Sam



I will be there from 24 May until 7 June. See you in the bar for a sandy brower (Brandy Sour)!



Marisa xx

TandM


Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
10/05/2010 12:45

hi



been trying to e mail connie at rms@cyprus.com but it will not go through, has the e mail address changed?



thanks

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
10/05/2010 13:34

try rms@n-cyprus.com

TandM


Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
10/05/2010 17:51

thanks arthur

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
23/05/2010 16:06

Just spent a fab 3 weeks at SWB. Once again its changed since we were there at New Year. The plants are growing well and ones that have not thrived are being changed. The pools are warm enough to swim in and a game of volleyball over the wall in the big pool was had most days at 4pm. Lots of new faces and we were able to put names to faces that we have only spoken to over the internet or on the phone only up to now.



More restaurants opened since we were there last between SWB and Esenteppe. If you get a chance try and eat at the Metran up the road its quaint but so very friendly. For fantastic food, but you do need to book (as she cooks to order) try Moulos its quirky with no real menu but the food is amazing.



Lots of plans in the pipeline and as always SWB and RMS are doing a great job in moving the site further forward all the time.



Waiting for our plane at Ercan :-(

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
05/06/2010 08:41

just back after a week surprisingly not crowded for half term week. Although only one afternoon we ran out of sun beds by the pool. Well they were covered in bodies or towels. Must confess it is easier to leave your stuff there when popping back for a cuppa tea if the Bay Inn is closed. The Bay Inn Bash was fun about 50 attended Sue Campbell instigated the event and twas multinational. England, Ireland, Germany were represented together with Belarus (nice people) even a Newcastle accent was detected. Lots of visitors interested in buying. SWB and RMS are working well in the interest of the site. Progress is being made with many issues and snagging seems to be progressing with a dedicated team. Roll on school hols in July.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 00:21

why is everyone quiet? roll on July 2nd will anyone else be there then

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 00:48

seen it roadside but I understand Vrosha is seen better viewed from the sea, can anyone provide info on this, the boats names, tour duration etc etc etc

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 13:55

all watching the football..........at SWB??

Arnold


Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 00:06

whats happening about this court case then?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 01:05

has Andy F been banned or is he still fishing in North Cyprus the last time I saw him was at about 730am 1st June heading off fishing

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
21/06/2010 12:54

Another hurdle.... Our permission to purchase came through today

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
21/06/2010 15:30

......do you think it was something you said Richard!!!

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
21/06/2010 16:48

Jakki I am sure I have said nothing to upset anyone. I model my diplomatic skills on those of Andy F who appears or disaapears to have gone missing. I may retaliate when I am falsely accused of something. Anyway in 11 days I will be supporting the Bay Inn (subject to BA still flying) again even though I did not agree with the location I can force myself to support it. I will be there with the boys for three weeks and my wife and her parents will only be there for two weeks with us. So I have volunterred for childcare thats very noble of me isnt it after all its really a woman's job isnt it? there I go again....

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 22:16

Jakki you must be right everyone is quiet

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 23:34

i suppose its quiet because all the excitment of taking hand over as happend to the vast majority of us , still many issues that are of concern to me like none payment of maintainence and the court case thats comming out of the owners maintainence account.



ive give up asking the relevent questions as you dont get told anything

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 09:03

Do you know that as fact ANdy? that RMS is paying court costs!!! surely the action was against Sweetwater Bay Developers wasnt it? Perhaps Mike will clarify on Facebook.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 20:59

rocky their must be two court cases going on . one is definaely against mike and RMS and he told me about his expierence of being in court and defending himself and RMS .



andy

Isabella


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:06

Don't you have a private web site for Sweetwater Bay to discuss such issues?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:11

further to above , im only guesing that a case against RMS would come out of rms funds by the way, if one was to come against my company it would come out of company costs its logical .



their was not one comment on facebook when a post on the case was posted, not one either way so at least it being brought up may force a clear up .

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:37

Andy/f

please go and wash your dirty linnen elswer instead of filling everyones mind up with a load of tosh .

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 00:21

had e-mail from mike regarding my misleading comments which i accept are wrong and i aplogise .



" to clarify , there are NO CASES WHATSOEVER which have been brought against either me personally or RMS . on the contary WE HAVE BROUGHT CASES AGAINST SOMEBODY ELSE . there is an extremlely important difference between the two.



andy

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 14:15

I have asked some questions for Mike on Facebook

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 17:01

Jackie aplogies I will chase Mike for those. Thanks for a fab BBQ on sunday

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 18:39

anyone else heard the rumour that the missing russian spy his hiding in an unsold unit at sweetwaterbay ?



hope its not 133pl above us !

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 19:03

I've started a new thread!!

yan3379


Joined: 09/06/2008
Posts: 44

Message Posted:
11/08/2010 11:13

Hi andy-f,

I am the owner of 133PL and I am not russian. don't worry!

I am trying to sell my property due to my personal reason.

I might visit my apartment around Oct.

Hope to be able to see my neighbor oneday.



Yang.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
11/08/2010 12:38

I looked at this penthouse in July and it must have some of the best views on the complex, was thinking of buying it.. I did not see a Russian Spy there though.

pussygalore


Joined: 01/10/2010
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 22:40

andy f

what is this about russian spy please tell me.been looking for him is he in your apartment why you ar'nt there

pussygalore


Joined: 01/10/2010
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 22:44