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spider

Joined: 03/01/2009 Posts: 5527
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 16:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 23 in Discussion |
| It was my thinking that refugees are homeless people seeking a new place to settle,and rebuild a home in a new homeland..thats what happens after wars..and i t continues.!! Spider,x |
dizzycows

Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 17:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 23 in Discussion |
| Its very strange to talk of the GC as refuges as they have all had somewhere to live in the South, were they not all rehomed? Or are they living in a compound in tents? The TC who came over too live in NC are the ones I feel sorry for, as lets face it they have had a lot harder life with the embargo, where as the GC have had it a lot easier, and to be able to move on with their lives..... |
AlsancakJack


Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 17:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 23 in Discussion |
| dizzy What I find strange and unacceptable is that the ROC allow 'refugee' status to be passed on down through the family tree ad infinitum. AJ |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 07/03/2010 18:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 23 in Discussion |
| Did you know that there are more people in the ROC now with 'refugee' status than there ever was immediately after the intervention by Turkey in 74' AJ |
millzer

Joined: 12/04/2007 Posts: 978
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 18:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 23 in Discussion |
| AJ message 4, not anymore according to the ECHR ruling |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 07/03/2010 18:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 23 in Discussion |
| millzer Blimey the ECHR must have moved quick. The 'Movement of Refugee and Displaced Mothers of Cyprus' had by December of last year (I think) filed 40 recourses to the European Court of Human Rights against their own government citing sexual discrimination against Mothers not being able to pass on 'refugee' status to their sons whereas the Fathers could. What a strange old world. AJ |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 19:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 23 in Discussion |
| AJ they should pass this in the uk then they will be ok |
mags111


Joined: 17/08/2008 Posts: 251
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 19:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 23 in Discussion |
| Their properties in the south are worth double what their pre-1974 properties are worth up here!! Why do they continue to bleat??? If I were them I would keep quiet. The TC's should put their message across about claiming their properties back in the south! I cant understand why they dont. |
Dusterbruce

Joined: 03/08/2007 Posts: 1125
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 19:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 23 in Discussion |
| Theres a 'refugee camp' between Dhekelia and Larnaca that is normally empty. At one time when foreign dignatories visited Cyprus the ROC govt used to bus in 'refugees' to fill the huts and houses and tents in the camp to show the visitors the plight of these poor refugees dispossessed by the naughty Turkish Army, then when the visitors had left the 'refugees' were bussed back to their permanent homes. I dont know if this still happens or not. |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 19:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 23 in Discussion |
| bee jeasus are you serious, sureky no where the hell do these poor people go, please no xxxxxx |
deecyprus4

Joined: 27/07/2008 Posts: 3452
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 19:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 23 in Discussion |
| On a more serious not, I would recommend caution when going south in your trnc plated car, the gc's are not happy with the ruling of the ECHR and could cause trouble...just be alert!! |
Dusterbruce

Joined: 03/08/2007 Posts: 1125
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 19:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 23 in Discussion |
| lilli, they go back to their houses, the exercise is the usual GC propaganda |
greylag

Joined: 08/04/2009 Posts: 1110
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 21:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 23 in Discussion |
| Dummies,dummies,everywhere,lol |
dizzycows

Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 21:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 23 in Discussion |
| What, AJ, ...passed down,.... how can that status be passed down when they were all re-housed!! Most now born in their new state. Refugee is when you flee from war, taking refuge in another country, so what they are saying is that the South IS a different country then. So they (GC) recognise the fact that it is two seperate states then.... It strikes me that this refugee thing is now null and void..... Rehoused, in the more affluent South..... |
spider

Joined: 03/01/2009 Posts: 5527
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 22:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 23 in Discussion |
| What i have been saying all along... ))) relocated to another country.end-of.,Well thats what happend in the last wold war,and to this date i have not heard of reclaiming homes or land lost by so very very many..Whats it all about.. it should all by now be stale mate.LOST OUT. Spider,x |
dizzycows

Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 23:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 23 in Discussion |
| The GC bleat on about how they have lost out, granted that they were forced out of their homes, but unfortunatly in war someone loses. Perhaps the GC should take mainland Greese to court for starting the trouble which caused them to have to leave their homes...... Some how I dont think they see themselves as ever being in the wrong...... They see themselves as the victim, and not what they did in 63 to 74.... . |
Jetski

Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 584
Message Posted: 07/03/2010 23:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 23 in Discussion |
| That, unfortunately is a GC and Greek trait....... never in the wrong - always someone elses fault. Look at how Greece is blaming everybody else apart from themselves for its current economic woes. It'll be the same when RoC has the same problem. No doubt the TRNC and Brits will get the blame. They need to get their own greed and their education systems in order and look at how the wider world really perceives them. Perhaps then they'll realise that they are not the centre of the universe and that really, nobody actually cares about them any more. |
Tiggy

Joined: 25/07/2007 Posts: 1994
Message Posted: 08/03/2010 01:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 23 in Discussion |
| How about trying to arrange a sports day with teams from the North & South participating, in a Kinda "It's a Knockout" competition ""The dummy Spitters" V "The Carpetbaggers" Venue to be agreed, when who owns what....... has been decided.!! |
PaulW


Joined: 20/07/2009 Posts: 651
Message Posted: 08/03/2010 01:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 23 in Discussion |
| Messages 15 & 17 - "A Little Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing". Moderators - I'll risk it. Message 19 - do you mean a bit like what happened in the 1914-18 war - the Christmas Day football game? |
PaulW


Joined: 20/07/2009 Posts: 651
Message Posted: 08/03/2010 01:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 23 in Discussion |
| Sorry - an addendum to message 20 - it's me, Jeannie (just in case you hadn't already guessed ) We are currently logged in as Paul and not me - apologies. |
sporty

Joined: 06/12/2007 Posts: 685
Message Posted: 08/03/2010 04:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 23 in Discussion |
| blimey Jeannie you look like a bloke! lol x |
dizzycows

Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 08/03/2010 11:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 23 in Discussion |
| msg 20, well you would know about that now wouldnt you!! Jack of talking rubbish master of non!!! msg 22, think they are into gender change!! see it all in the papers now, what was a bloke turns out to be the woman, and what was a woman turns out to be a man.... . |
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