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cyprusishome


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11/03/2010 12:59

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The HBPG have a date pencilled on 8th April for a protest in Lefkosa. Several of us have been putting our heads together to work out what to do and where, to suggest to HBPG.



However after the no shows at recent events we think we may be wasting our time in trying to get some action to highlight the problems that hundreds, possibly thousands of people have here.



It is weird that week after week people go to see Marian Stokes at Pia Bella and all she asks in return is that people turn out to help her. Personally after sitting there over the last 4 months I would be giving up!



So, what I am asking is there anyone that would turn out in Lefkosa?



The exact nature of meeting will not be released until close to the time. Banners would be provided and the principle of these would be to highlight a couple of key issues as well as the overall problem.



If you are prepared to turn out then please contact me off forum and we will feed back to Marian your thoughts.



David



Marvo


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11/03/2010 13:07

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I think you have to tell people the 'exact nature' of the protest if you want a commitment from them.



cyprusishome


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11/03/2010 14:02

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So there is the first negative response on post 2, amazing.



It will be peacful, with banners, what more do you want. Why tell the powers in charge too soon so they can disappear.



As I said, e-mail me or other contact if you may be interested in anything.



HildySmith


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11/03/2010 20:32

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Yes - I will support Marian she does a great job and needs support



Hippo


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11/03/2010 20:54

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I thought it was against the law for foreigners to hold a protest



cyprusishome


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12/03/2010 08:08

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It certainly is not, that was a ploy put about by the government to keep the natives at bay.



A permit has to be obtained for any meeting of groups of people, or some such. But the facts have been confirmed from the Attorney General also on an earlier thread elko (Ismet) has given his thoughts.



Groucho



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12/03/2010 08:27

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Make sure it's not during the official period of the election... might be viewed as interference and cause an unwarranted and unwanted reaction.



Why not have a rally not a protest? Rallying support for buyers let down by the abuse of those who should be held accountable... builders, lawyers etc.



A protest has a negative connotation a rally a more positive one. If you themed the rally, "ECHR have done their bit, now you do yours" you might get somewhere... Otherwise it all seems stick and no carrot.



Oh, and who are the natives? Who in the government put it about? I don't remember reading anything from official sources...



Permission for a gathering of any size is a requirement in many countries for fairly obvious public order reasons.



Civil disobedience? Not sure if many people will want to join in that. Being arrested and deported doesn't often appeal.



Milou


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12/03/2010 09:41

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David



Keith and I will be happy to turn up to support the demostration - I've emailed you off board.



regards



cyprusishome


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Message Posted:
12/03/2010 21:50

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Groucho



Rally, protest whatever, that is semantics. No body has mentioned civil disobedience, until you have, just peacful demonstration of our feelings regarding our home buying etc.



Why not come along to Pia Bella on Tuesday and help us set this thing up and make a truly positive contribution.



Teresa


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12/03/2010 22:09

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I think i would agree with groucho election time is not the best time to hold any kind of demonstration peaceful or otherwise.



Groucho



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13/03/2010 00:20

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CIH



"The exact nature of meeting will not be released until close to the time."



I think some folk want to know more about your plans before they sign blank cheques... You make it sound clandestine and if you are to get permission then you have to honest with the authorities as to the intent and form of the 'protest'.



I might join a rally I won't be taking part in a protest.



It is not semantics it's a very serious distinction...



negativenick


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Message Posted:
13/03/2010 03:43

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whats the point ? they won't take a blind bit of notice anyway...



Group hug anyone ?



Tenakoutou



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13/03/2010 09:06

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Previous governments implemented, or adapted, the law to suit themselves and whatever we foreigners consider legally, ethically, or morally, unjustifiable has already proved to be of no consequence to them.



I, personally, can't see that any overtures, petitions, rallies, or protests, will alter their conveniently entrenched philosophy towards their grudgingly accepted 'guests'.



A rally, or protest, has a chance of success in a democracy, but anyone who is 'au fait' with the real inner workings of 'the system' surely cannot seriously believe that such action could achieve due consideration, let alone nullify the nepotism that prevents it.



Imagine the financial and social upheaval, within the TC community, that the necessary changes would cause!



Marvo


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Message Posted:
13/03/2010 09:39

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And you thought post 2 was negative.



Groucho



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Message Posted:
13/03/2010 10:47

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Pick battles you can win and you might win the war....



cyprusishome


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Message Posted:
13/03/2010 11:02

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So you are all happy to roll over and not fight to get what is yours, typical of British people every where.





I got my kocan by fighting for it with help of Marian and team, still got to get water and electric but I will not give up like so many have done judging by the comments.



That is me back in my box on the topic.



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