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roblyn


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Went to an afternoon gathering in Esenepe.Avon ladies selling their products

Purpose to buy the skin so soft insect repellant.

Ironically whilst there I got well and truly bitten by what seemed to be ordinary house flies. No one else seemed to be affected. I spent the whole time clawing at my feet Now taking antihystamin for the irritation

I'm taking brewers yeast tablets in an effort to make myself even more obnoxious than I already am. Eating marmite.Using the SSS after the event

Reason for this post is I saw a post that mentioned a pharmacist who offered monthly injections.

Used the search engine but unable to find it.

Please can anyone help to find that posting It's only March.I'll be a skeleton by May



Ballyboffin


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The chemist just past Supreme in Catalkoy do these. It is in the same block as Mardo.



JoanneM


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Are they pricey? and do they actually work on everyone, I am covered in scars from bites, can't help scratching them and antihystamins make me drowsy.

I've also heard about garlic based tablets to stop them biting, does anyone know anything about these?



jimmy


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I rember going to the karpas last year standing right at the end where the land meets the sea & there was this one fly ( like a house fly ) that would not leave us alone & the bite from it was unreal - it flet like a pin but when you looked down there was only this little fly - ended up getting back in the car cos it was havin a right go at us.



Lilli



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i would be imterested in the injections also, the blighters love me.however the avon works on me i buy it by the bucket load xx



Carmel


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This injection is completely successful - for me - the cost last year was 10TL. I usually have the first one in April and then about every 4 - 6 weeks. I'm sure they still bite me but they don't affect me at all.

You should certainly try it anyway - nothing to loose except awful bite marks etc.



roblyn


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Thankyou everyone I shall be down there at the first opportunity



Vidal


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Anyone know what they inject you with?



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I can only think it is a Vit B injection as to my knowledge there is no insect repellent injection available. You can also take Vit B complex in tablet form.



Chris



roblyn


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Could it be an antihystamin? Though they may then still bite the reaction is reduced?

I'll ask when I go.

I'll try anything.I have a bad reaction to biting insects anywhere not just here. Have often ended up with antibiotics because the bite has become infected

Thanks again everyone



booitsme


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I think the injection is Kenalog (Triamcinolone) it does nothing to repel the little biters but is used as in supression of infammatory and allergic disorders. It used to be used on a regular basis years ago in the UK for hayfever but was stopped and only used in extreme cases as it's pretty heavy duty stuff.

If you suffer from drowsiness with antihistamines try Cetirizine or Acrivastine (if that's available here). The usual dose for Cetirizine is 10mg once daily but can be taken up to 20mg twice daily. Acrivastine is up to one capsule three times a day.

I haven't found anything that stop the flies biting but Thiamine vitamin B1) does stop mozzies, you do smell like marmite until the body gets used to it but no-one else seems to be able to smell it on you! The other alternative is the lemon stuf that the locals use to freshen up. To keep stinging insects away in the garden keep a chopped up onion on the table Hope this helps.



roblyn


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Thanks booitsme. I'll give vit B1 a go, (assuming I can get it here) together with the brewers yeast,the avon product and the lemon freshener. I'd prefer to pong than itch.

If I'm still on the menu after all that then I'll go for the jab



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Roblyn, you poor thing. It sounds as if you have the same problem as I do (when I don't use my one and only successful repellent). I didn't use it a few wks ago on a sunny afternoon and was bitten all over my legs which then swelled up to the size of a 5pence piece each and weeped for a good week.



I use something called Mosquit-Ex. Someone has told me on this forum that you can pick it up on Amazon which I didn't know. I could only ever find it in the airport (next to the Factor P20 suncream). It's not cheap - £15.75 last time I bought - but it lasts a long time and the swines never get me when I wear it. It was developed for army personnel working out in Africas years ago. It's dynamite and lasts on your skin at least 12 hours but don't wear nailvarnish cos it melts it, and don't lick your fingers cos it tastes vile, even a few hours later!



Good luck whatever you decide.



Pippie


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I've got one bite on the back of my little finger that I picked up on Saturday (I'm always forgetting the backs of my hands with the mozzie repellant!!). Anyway, it's driving me mad, all blistered up. If anyone can recommend anything for the itching, I'd be grateful.



decanddyl


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My wife had the injection earlier this month and although she still has bites the reaction to them is noticeable.

The cost is TL10. Only wish there was a chemist on the West side of town that did them.



decanddyl


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It's an anti-histamine injection Fantastic result no more itching no more scratching myself I was advised by the pharmacist to take vitamin B tablets (which are vile) The combination of both seem to be working, very few bites no itching.

Last year from February onwards I was plagued with bites I tried every lotion and potion available all failed !! to this day I still have dozens of marks where I was bitten last year so fingers crossed I have found a remedy that suits me.

msg 14.

Last year during the day I used burn relief spray the type that freezes the skin at night I used sudacrem (baby bum cream)



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tulik


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With regards to the injection has anyone experienced side effects? I am also concerned about a pharmacist not a doctor/nurse giving the injection. What training have they had?



Tenakoutou



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tulik/Msg17: If your 'friendly' pharmacist has the same mindset as most of the 'friendly' advocates, one can really appreciate your concern!



booitsme


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Tulik the usual listed side effects for Kenalgo are the same as for any corticosteroid - gastrointestinal disturbance, acute pancreatitis, muscle weakness, insomnia, confusion, irritability, nausea, headache, vertigo, urticaria and these are just some of the effects. Should not be used in pregnancy or in breast feeding and caution should be used if epileptic or any history of psychiatric disorder. These are the usual listed side effects which may or may not be experienced but any drug has side effects!

It seems to be common practise here for pharmacists to give injections as they are a very popular choice here for giving medication. I know some people who had this injection last year given by their pharmacist and suffered no ill effects, bearing in mind they also give flu jabs and antibiotic injections. The choice to have it is with the individual. I would be tempted to advise trying oral antihistamines first before using something that is long acting.



roblyn


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Pippie thanks for the empathy.not planning on going through the airport in the near future otherwise would certainly have tried your recomended remedy.

Decanddyl after reading your post,stopped faffing about and went straight down there,got my fix and bought the VitB1 as a back up.

The pharmacist confirmed the injection is antihystamin.

Tulik a pharmacist has many years of training. I believe 4 yrs at university and another 4 to 6 on site training before they qualify.They are more knowledgable about drugs, side affects,what medication you should not mix with another etc etc than many GPs.They don't just stand behind a counter and sell cold cures and headache pills.

Thanks everyone for advice Now looking forward to living my life on the other side of the flyscreen



Tenakoutou



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roblyn - make sure you liberally spray (from inside out) your flyscreens with a 'Permithrin' insecticide - in fact all patio walls and outside furniture and upholstery.



Grow/buy pots of Basil and place several around your patio - the more the better.



Get in the habit of wafting your hands and arms (legs,too, if possible!) through their foliage - deters mossies and sandflies. In July and August it's good to have an outside fan, too - they don't like turbulent air.



roblyn


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Thankyou Tenakoutou.I will follow your advice

I'll buy the Permithrin at the first opportunity. (Car's gone to the golf course)

I've heard about the Basil and had that in mind,Will source that too,when the car comes home.

100% more comfortable now and aim to stay that way.



Tenakoutou



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You can find the spray containing 'Permithrin' in Tempo - it's in a grey plastic spray 250ml bottle and features a cockroach on the label. I've never tried it, though, as I usually buy all my (agricultural quality) chemicals in the South.



rosieposie


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A word of advice on having injections at the pharmacy...



I had the kenelog injection last year but the pharmacist didn't ask me a single question beforehand, he just injected me, and luckily I didn't have a reaction to it. I didn't think there would be a problem as I have had this injection in the UK previously.



However my mum also had a similar injection at the same time as me but she has had a severe reaction to it and now has large painful indents in her arms at the site of the injections and it is almost as if the muscle has wasted away. The pharmacist didn't ask if she was on any other medications, or ask any questions at all, and now she is left with scars on her arms. She has since found out that this drug could have this side effect if it is taken at the same time as HRT, but the pharmacist didn't ask!



I would advise you not to have this injection at the pharmacy as they are not qualified to do it, but to go to a doctor instead, or to use another means of antihistemi



Tenakoutou



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Get your advice in UK is my advice! - Too many so-called 'qualified' people in Cyprus - North & South - got their certificates 'out of a box of WeetBix'!



roblyn


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Tenakoutou I am following your advice to the letter. Got four pots of Basil plants for the balcony. Permithrin on my Tempo shopping list for tomorrow. I'm very grateful for the interest and advice

Now stop being naughty about the Pharmacists.

Rosieposie, I'm so sorry to hear your mum had a bad reaction to the injection and her ongoing problems.

Did you or your mum not ask the pharmacist any questions? I did.

What works for some people can be lethal for others.

Best example Penicilin



Lilli



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Basil really does work, we keep pots of them around the restaurant to ensure thaT our customers will not get bugged, for me i take vit b tabs and aloe vera juice, so far and skin so soft avon, so good. i still have two scars on my back where i was attacked constantly. I wonder if being a celt with delicate skin matters to these blighters as my scots, welsh and irish friends seem to sufer most. oh well join in with the freckles xxxxx



booitsme


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Having been a pharmacist in the UK it does scare me how lax the pharmacists are here. I have walked in and bought over the counter medication that would prescription only in the UK and never been asked any questions about my health or why I'm buying this particuar medication. At least I know what I'm buying and any potential side effects but often the medication has Turkish patient information leaflets which could tell you valuable information. The best way is to make a point of asking if there are any side effects and if there are any conditions in which medication should be avoided. I have known one pharmacist (used frequently by Brits) to sell totally inappropriate medication saying it is equivalent to what my friend required. Luckily I was shown the medication first and advised not to take it. If in any doubt ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS!



decanddyl


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The anti histamine injection plus Vit B and Garlic tablets have been working for me, although I have had one bite and no reaction to it, no side effects from the injection, looking forward to peaceful summer. So far so good. Will try the basil as well.



As for checking with the pharmacist we did that. In my case the side effects from the bites were a nightmare!!



roblyn


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Far as I know Lilli,I'm British The blighters make a beeline for me though.

The basil is wonderful,lovely fresh aroma.Just as a back up I've had the jab,taking VitB1, Brewers yeast,eating the marmite, using the Avon product.leaving no stone unturned.( I hope!)

Read your posts and feel I know you.I am also an animal lover.Bought my baby with me from England.

Looking forward to visiting your restaurant and meeting you.

Bit of a trek from Esentepe don't like leaving my dog too long

Also been pretty busy getting residency driving licences and getting the app sorted.

One day soon though.



dublinderm


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Back to top.



This thread is likely to get more important as the summer rolls in.



DD



MaggieAndBernie



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Just bringing this back to the top in case anyone else, like me, is looking for info about antihistamine injections.



Maggie



honestie


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had the injection 2 weeks ago and vitamin b12 injection total cost 15tl. The same injections at my doctors was 100tl and he never asked me any health questions,more interested in the 50 tl an injection!



The injection is anithistimine and wont stop the bites but great for the itching.



B12 great for energy levels and as for injections they go straight into the blood stream without having to go through the digestive sytem with the tablets and its only every month or two months.



Just make sure youre happy with the chemist and ask the Questions



mitsi


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Vit B 12 is brilliant or take vit B complex tablets if you prefer. Not everyone is able to have anti-histamine tabs or injections so ask questions beforehand. Will the pharmacist sell the injection for self administration? I would do my own and for friends. Have tried avon and Vape sprays but all ineffective on me. Only thing that prevents bites for me is MOZIGUARD spray and can't find it here. will be sure to bring some back from UK as bought for about £3 in Wilkinson's.



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Msg 14 pippie try tea tree oil it works for me



simbas



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Hi Honestie , are you saying that the Dr just gave you Vit B inj without a blood test ?

Simbas



Twinkletoes


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at least that is better than massive holes!



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Sorry about that. My reply disappeared!



The injection they give is Dexamethozone plus. This is concentrated hydrocortisone and if you check on the internet it is strong stuff.



I had three injections last year, one a month for three months. I ended up with huge holes in my upper arms where the hydrocortisone caused skin, tissue and muscle atrophy.



In other words dexamethozone destroyed the tissue, muscle etc in my arms.



Four weeks ago I had plastic surgery to cut out the dead tissue and muscle. My arms were then stitched from the muscle upwards to fill in the holes. Now I have 5cm scars on my arms which will fade. I think this is a far better option than huge holes as I would not wear short sleeves with the holes showing.



So please think twice and DON'T do it. Don't end up with the major problems I had as a side effect.



Twinks



honestie


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Hi Simbas



I have regular blood tests with my GP in Uk and also here and discuss with my GP in UK . However the doctor here gave my B12 and tried to prescribe many other things without asking any questions. I think we all have to take responsibility for our health and what medictaions we take as Doctors UK or here can fail to ask relevant questions.



I dont know about here but the chemists in UK are usually more upto date in medictaion than the GPs.



I have been here over 5years and just like the UK some Doctors /hospital/chemists get it wrong. The cautionary tale is check what you are having check side effects discuss and make your own decision



simbas



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Hi honestie , its all a bit worrying isn't it , good job you are having blood tests , and you know whether you need them or not , but i bet there are quite a few who do not .

Take care , Simbas



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