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Tootie


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04/04/2010 12:52

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100404/twl-kissing-couple-lose-appeal-over-jail-3fd0ae9.html



NanaJan



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04/04/2010 13:06

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Well they knew the rules when they decided to work in Dubai. Let us not forget that these countries in the Arab world are Muslim and so you cannot do what you may do in other places. They are lucky to have only got one month and deportation.

Some years ago my husband was held under house arrest in Oman for doing his job which was General Manager of a Photographic Company. He had resigned but was then asked to do a shoot of an Omani young lady for a Beauty Book. Since he rarely took portrait type shots he told his Manager of the studio to do it but the Omani boss wanted him to do it. Aware of the situation he insisted that her mother was present and also another female member of staff at the shoot. The book was later published. Then the young lady's father went to the police to say that her face being shown had ruined her chances of marriage even though they had signed for the shoot to go ahead. It all appears to have been a set up to keep him in Oman.

It went to court three times



NanaJan



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It was a nightmare and we were told he could go to prison for a year. He was not paid during the time he was held under house arrest and the Company backed out of it saying he had resigned.

At last thanks to our contacts with the press we won the case.

Had to pay all our own legal bills which were a LOT of money and had no salary for four months. No fault of our own but that is life.

We still do work for the Middle East and we love the areas but you have to be very careful at all times. Dubai might be a lovely holiday destination but be wary how you dress and what you do at all times.



phylray



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04/04/2010 18:12

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Dubai is the most liberal of all the Emirates in U.A.E and I am quite surprised at this case.

While working in Abu Dhabi, Al Ain and Sharjah we felt we could wear shorter shorts when

visiting Dubai! But you can't behave as if you were back home in U.K! They are pretty tolerant

compared to some places, but I have seen idiots who just have to cross the line.



buddie12


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04/04/2010 20:41

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disgusting habit serves them riight, singed no lips johnny,



No1Doyen


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04/04/2010 21:15

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Having recently come back from Dubai I was quite surprised how 'liberal' they seemed to be. Foreigners seemed to have no respect for the 'dress code' - particularly in places like the Dubai Mall.



breezyboy


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04/04/2010 21:16

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Another couple caught on the beach practicing making babies were only fined after an appeal. Some justice system. Maybe they should have gone the whole way!



zookeeper


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05/04/2010 08:23

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Latest local news on kissing couple in Dubai:-

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/lawyer-advises-kissing-couple-to-appeal-again-despite-failure-1.607960

Also one Emirates stewardess has had a lucky escape from a jail sentence:-

http://www.7days.ae/storydetails.php?id=92454&title=Baby%20shock%20for%20cabin%20crew%20girl



twoexpats


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05/04/2010 08:53

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My understanding is the fact that the male defendant came from a Muslim background and that alcohol was involved counted against them. There is reluctant acceptance of the 'decadent' ways of the West however this tolerance does not extend to fellow muslims who should know better.

It is an unfortunate fact that many Western visitors show little or no respect for local culture and standards.



phylray



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05/04/2010 23:16

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Ah, that explains it message 9. We used to have our "bridge club" (euphemistically named) where we could have an alcoholic drink during Ramadan at the hotels in Al Ain, but they would not let ANY Arab, or non European in, even if he was not a Muslim!



Hector


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05/04/2010 23:47

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I have visited Dubai as a tourist several times and have enjoyed it. Having read yet another horror story of people falling foul of the law, I don't think I will ever visit again. The woman in this case was a tourist and simply kissed the male in greeting. I can't believe that doesn't happen all the time in Dubai as elsewhere in the world. Here the so called complainant withdrew her version of events and couldn't be contacted by the authorities. What justice is that whatever the complaint?



berty



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06/04/2010 18:14

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of course we all know what really happened between them!!! Kissing on the cheek between man and women even in Saudi is tolerated in most places anyway. so I for one dont beleive that what they say they were doing .



Brinsley


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06/04/2010 19:10

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What a bunch of bloody hypocrites, the Prince's come to London gambling in the Mayfair casinos, drink alcohol, eat pork, hire out prostitutes in their Hyde Park hotels or arrange them to go to their privately owned £5million flats and return to their Middle East Countries and ban a 'snog'!



Richard



phylray



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It is not the "Princes" who are banning anything but the law controlled by the religious leaders.

Biggest visitors to the "hole in the wall" for alcohol in Bahrain (where you bring your drinkies out

in brown paper bags) were some of the locals. But they are not all hypocrites as you say, as some

taxi drivers would not take you to these places if you were going to get alcohol.

The most ridiculous thing I saw was when my Irish friend offered some home-made Christmas pudding

to her guests and the Palestinian girls refused it because it had brandy or rum in it, (at high temperatures

of course the alcohol content is destroyed and only used for taste)



zookeeper


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07/04/2010 08:01

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Berty is absolutely right. This topic is the subject of widespread debate here by residents and the local press. However one thing that is absolutely clear is that all expat residents and visitors to the UAE need to respect the laws of the country. Some Emiratis are more tolerant of Western behaviour and norms than others. Indeed, many have lived and studied overseas. However there are some UAE Nationals that are getting "fed up with the attitude and arrogance and disrespect" shown by some residents and visitors and "instead of turning a blind eye to misbehaviours in future will be calling the police."



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