Tonight I had the privilege of meeting with the next TRNC President

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 20:43

Wow, I have just witnessed history in the making. The ground swell support that I saw tonight for Eroglu in Alsancak and Lapta was amazing. If this is indicative of the rest of the TRNC then the Presidential elections are a foregone conclusion. Not quite sure whether I should now wash my hands after having the privilege of meeting the man.

AJ

magalan


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Posts: 227

Message Posted:
06/04/2010 20:45

And I thought it was a re-opening party at Astro!!

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
06/04/2010 20:49

AJ. Its not all over yet, please wash your hands.



Measey.

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/04/2010 20:50

Great for international relations when he has only one language under his belt!

Ismet, were the hell are you?!



Richard

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 20:58

Brinsley

His language is that of his native people. That is all that matters.

Tootie


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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 20:59

Speaking to the Edremit Muhtar on Saturday Eroglu favourite to win election.



Gotta go... Talats bus has just pulled up outside,

Free stuff..... Where's me carrier bag

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
06/04/2010 21:05

Ismet. Help were are you.



Measey.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 21:05

Tootie

Don't forget the whisky but you will have use your Turkish language skills to get it.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 21:08

Tootie, is it free food? )

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 21:42

Measy

' Ismet. Help were are you.'



Surely you do not need help from anyone else? Oh well another 'Expat' that has bought in the TRNC without understanding the TC way of life. You are well advised to stay East of Girne and I just hope you get on with your Brit expat neighbours.

Take care.

AJ

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/04/2010 22:01

Dave Gurr

Trying to encourage Ismet to stand for President, even though without the vote, I'd certainly canvas for him! Where is he?!



Richard

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 22:08

Richard Brinsley

It is too late as you are obviously aware, but maybe next time hey?

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
06/04/2010 22:25

To misquote a famous saying, let's say 'Don't count your votes until they are cast.' - even though there is a strong indication that Eroglu may win. However, one thing that many people feel, that whilst it is right for his people to speak 'their language', it is quite normal these days for a national leader to speak English. This is not my vie,w but the view of many Cypriots and Turks that have expressed their concern that if Northern Cyprus is to be regarded as 'equal' on the international scene, a good working knowledge of rthe English language is a must.



Maybe I could give Mr E a crash course!?

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
06/04/2010 22:30

AJ

With the political climate as is, in the TRNC, it would be of great advantage for the next 'leader' to have an international recognised language at his/her disposal.



Richard

greylag


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Message Posted:
06/04/2010 22:41

Ostrich,head and sand,

Grey.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 00:23

AJ we are now amongst royaity, good for you, I am hearing differnt still for talat. this is harder than the may 16th elections. my cyp friends still are convienced we will go forward, im confused now xx

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 00:28

Liz

'Confusion' was never one of your better subjects at school!



Richard

Groucho



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Message Posted:
07/04/2010 07:04

If you judge a man by his words... Eroglu seems very muddled.



If you judge him by past performance... Eroglu seems very muddled.



If you judge him by previous success... he lost his last attempt at President by a country mile...



Polls are notoriously unreliable here...



AJ you may well have spent time with a total waste of space...

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 07:57

msg 18;

Groucho;



So,what has Talat delivered so far as a PRESIDENT out of what he said he would?



Who is the longest serving Prime Minister in TRNC?



Try not to judge the candidates but the puplic themselves,

You can start from last years elections,and of course,the presidential election he lost against DENKTAS!!



However,I am also aware that politicians are politicians,WE (joe the puplic) put them there,and WE also bring them DOWN.

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 08:13

Polls here are all smoke and mirrors.



Patientia est a donum superum.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 20:26

AJ. You are what i call a Bully but bullies always get their comeuppance, do you really think that you can come on to this forum and spout i know this i know that i know everthing, stop having an opion because its not the same as mine Humbug Chap. As far as me staying over in the east concerned whats it got to do with you mine your own business.



Ismet where are you, reasonable , knowlegeable, understanding Man maybe you should take a leaf out of his book. Ohh that feels better.



Take Care. Measey.

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 22:23

Grouch

' AJ you may well have spent time with a total waste of space... '

Not for me to decide as you know, It is for the voters in the TRNC to decide.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 22:29

measey

I am so glad you feel better now you have gotten that off of your chest.

You can now sleep well tonight.

By the way, when do you move out here permanently?

AJ

greylag


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Posts: 1110

Message Posted:
07/04/2010 22:47

Its neck and neck with the ostrich winning by a small majority,

Grey.

MarkVPiazza


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Posts: 530

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 09:33

Eroglu was 10 points ahead in a well respected poll last weekend - I can't image Talat can turn around that bigger gap.



Mark

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 10:39

AJ. Thank you for those kind words probaly the nicest words you have said to me. Now as for when do i move

permanently over to TRNC,I Cannot see what that has do with you.



Measey.

cidem



Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 11:55

Hi everyone if u ask my opinion i dont see Eroğlu as the next president,

because if he is elected that means Trnc will go 20 yrs back again wich will be worser than today...

what did he do after he was sellected??

fired more than 140 peoples from cyprus turkish airlines?? 140 unemployed people now around they probably have families to look after,kids to send to school.taxes to pay,even like most of the cypriots ,might have bank credits to pay...

what else did he do fired more that 170 people from the government jobs even peoples who has worked for 15/20 yrs. and with the letters he did given them they will not even get their pensions.. by the way he fired cyprus turkish air lines workers with text messages!!!! not even a letter!!!!



he has given out land in some villages to only his supporters!!!!(rural lands to support and engourage youth to stay in their villages)

besides these he can not speak a word in English nor he cant speak proper turkish ..Probably because of age i

cidem



Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 12:00

i believe... when questions asked to him on local tv's eigther he forgets the question or gives different answers than whats been asked to him!!!

well i belive i'll have to emigrate to another place like most of the others will like in the past most did.. because my mother,my sister and i'll be unemployed because he has given warnings that everyone who are contractual workers in government will be fired...im not working in government but who will find a job???

and about Cyprus problem.With him never to be solved!!!!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 12:28

I honestly think that it will go down to the wire on the 18th.Turkey is definiteley backing Talat,and i agree with Cidem,about the North going back 20 years,

Paul.

bridie


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Posts: 308

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 12:52

By the way, when Eroglu was last elected, we did not have mobile phones here to text with, and very few people had a landline!

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 19:02

Cidem. i agree like Newlad Turkey is backing Talat and i believe without Turkeys backing the TRNC Would be like a rowing boat without a paddle.I just hope Talat suceeds as like you i believe it would course so much harm to everthing that so far has been acheived.



Measey.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 20:08

cidem;

msg27/28;

"140 CTA workers fired?" NOT



All was offered their jobs back at the same time with a lower salary!!



I suppose,because it got to the point where CTA could no longer afford to pay stuff that has been "working" there for the past 20+ years labouring for 5000tl a month.



That above might give you guys an idea about "why CTA prices" are always much more expensive.



As my friend says,TOO MANY CHIEFS AND NOT ENOUGH INDIANS.



As for weater the guy "Eroglu" speaks english or not! What has got to do with anything?

Since when knowing another language made someone a better politician?Would be helpfull for sure.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 20:11

msg 31;

measey;



I'd strongly like to remind you about last years elections regarding who Turkey was supporting and "WHO ACTUALY WON."



We,joe the puplic of TRNC decide who wins what,not Turkey.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 20:16

yorgozlu. Point taken and i Respect it.



Measey.

cidem



Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 21:51

well i respect what you believe in too Yorgozlu but non of the CTA workers got they are jobs back and i know that they wont... thats a huge lie to get their votes...

and even if they are a government should never fire someone with out given them notice!!!another thing is you can not fire anyone with a text message that to rude!!!!

any way i do respect everyone.I can understand that you might support Eroğlu but Im supporting Talat because i believe he is much more talented and better..

and i believe someone who will represent us should know another language like English which is a universal language...can you Remember Erdoğan in Davlos only thing he said was ''one munite''which made him look sutupid all around the world...

but good luck to both in their competition....at the end of the day it will not affect only you and me but all off us..

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 22:12

cidem;

I know at least one of those 140,in fact,my brother-in law.

I also know what they had been offered from this very person.



CTA did,what they did because of the loop hole in the system allowing them to do it without paying compensation,which is also why they had been offered their jobs back at the same time as well at lower salary,about half of what they had been getting,which is also more then enough to live on(at least for some of us).



Allow me to assume that you are an employee:



Whould you pay someone 5000tl a month to sit all day and do nothing when you can hire 3 people for the same money and they'd actualy work as well?

Think of building industry!!! Why isn't there any (almost)locals working there?



By the way,my comments are on about TALAT vs ERDOGAN but WRONG vs RIGHT.



At the age of 45,I beleive I am too old for sweet little lies to keep me going,like bed time stories.



As someone from UK,you must remember the conservative (Thatcher/Major) days!! cont.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 22:14

Puplic got fed up from their lies and chose Labour.



Well,need I say anymore about whats happening in UK with the elections round the corner!!!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
08/04/2010 22:36

Measey

Message 31

I think you are missing something here, although Turkey will try to manipulate to a certain extent the outcome of the election it really does not matter because if the TC's get who they vote for then It will have been a democratic election but it does not end there. Turkey will still be able to play the puppet strings and bring Eroglu under control. Whether it was/is Dentkas or Talat or Eroglu there is one simple act that Turkey can carry out to bring the TRNC Government to its knees and it has been used before and that is the act of not paying the public sectors wages. It really is easy Measy. All of those Government/local Council workers not being paid would soon bring down the elected Government.

AJ

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
08/04/2010 22:39

Measey



' I just hope Talat suceeds as like you i believe it would course so much harm to everthing that so far has been acheived'



And what has been achieved? Can you name one thing that has been achieved by Talat?

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
09/04/2010 21:25

AJ. You make your choice and going forward i believe Talat is the right person to conclude all things to the benifet of all concerned. Comes across to me as a more intelligent politiction, its a long process, just my opion.

ie, AJ OR ISMET???.but you have to respect everyones opinon. Gordon Brown or David Cameron my opion DAVID CAMERON you make your choice .



Measey.

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
09/04/2010 22:05

to be honest, one who votes for eroğlu, must be easy influencable. I cant see anything with him, which is in favour to the trnc people. he is old, mixes up things, has no real programm and has fear to defend his position in a tv debate. the only thing I can see that eroğlu has the basic people in his pocket and the people which will be eating out of his hands. unfortunatelly these are a huge bunch and I even have good friends which will be voting for eroğlu.

as we could see in the last 25 years of manly UBP governments, they did nothing, they handed over cyprus to the greeks with silly decisions and got away with partisanship on highest levels.

even the government now has problems to explain eg: whereas the tax debts from Asil Nadir are, or why Bilge Nevzat was granted milllions of Vakıf Bank credits for the English School in Kyrenia.. They are also unable to explain the tenders held at ercan airport for the taxfree shopping center.. I mean, how can anyone trust

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/04/2010 22:08

Measey

I don't make any choices, I do not have a vote in the TRNC but I have a passion for what is happening in the TRNC and I post my feelings about what I understand is happening in the TRNC. It makes no difference to me whether either Talat or Eroglu wins the election and if you read my message 38 you will realise why. The same as the up and coming elections in the UK, I do not have a vote and I am sure that whatever the outcome life is not going to be easy for anyone in the UK and again it makes no difference to me who becomes the next ruling party.

I ditched the UK many years ago and the TRNC is my home hence my passion for this country.

AJ

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 15:49

AJ. Nothing wrong with life in the uk am proud to be british, do believe it will get better with a Conservative Goverment, there are more people within the party that understand business and whats required.



I ditched the UK many years ago and the TRNC is my home hence my passion for this country.



Thats Good but maybe sometimes your passion runs away with you ,maybe you should channel it more careingly. Just a thought.



Measey

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 18:10

RE AJ: (...) the TRNC is my home hence my passion for this country. (...)

=> Allow me to fully second this.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 18:36

msg44;

Hans;

You are allowed.



The island surely needs more poeple like you.



Long Live TRNC

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 18:54

henrik

Re message 41.

After talking with a lot of TC's over the last few days it has become evident to me that they all want a say in their future and quite rightly to. Talat is not giving them that say and they are worried that they will find themselves in a situation whereby they will have to say yes/no to a set of pre-agreed rules which a lot of them will not be able to fully understand in the short time scale that any announced referendum will allow. Rightly or wrongly the UBP/Eroglu is seen by a majority of TC's as giving them a lot more control over their future lives.

AJ

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 23:31

yes. believe it or not. eroğlu has done nothing in the past for trnc (and freedom) and will not do so in the future. he will be pushing his partisanship and a few people will benefit from that. but afer a few years the so called TCs will remember again the disability of eroğlu and UBP - and will vote in favor of another party.. this is how it goes here since years. nothing new for me. unortunatelly I am sorry becaouse of the lack of long term memory of many TCs. how comes nobody asks what has UBP or eroğlu done in the past than talking hot air????? name me a what have they done for the fredom of trcn citizens? NOTHING! its more and more a police state which is cutting peoples freedoms and making people scarred. why is he afaight of defending his ideas in tv debates?? (because he has none??) anyhow. 5 years later we might start again from the point we left it today... like we did before. no prob. most of the educated people are young and our time will come.. we can wait!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 23:43

I aLWAYS sorry caps locked on i said that they missed a centuary they jumped from the 19th to th 21st we really dont want to see it go backwards x

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 23:49

msg 47;

I suppose,the situation here is no different then it is in UK then!

Same old same old,one goes another one comes of those so called educated people.

However,if one educated one does not deliver what promised,puplic would have no choice but to give the old one one more go again with the hope that THEY HAD LEARNT FROM THEIR PASSED EXPIRIANCE.



AND



I'm not even educated.

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
10/04/2010 23:57

I can say..



what did talat not delivered to people he promissed? is he not working on it? so dont try to compare 25 years of doing nothing to 5 years of talat.. its like comparing the night with the day.. but anyhow, as I said. we have time... we will surely survive eroğlu and ubps if necessary..

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 00:15

henrik;



You are getting me wrong!

I too am aware of the fact that UBP did not deliver anything in the passed.

But,you can't say that Talat did either.

According to Talat's plans,we should've been in EU long by now.



"Ya dun,ya dunya",might be Talat's slogan now,but they were no different 5 years ago either.



If you think that Talat is going to achieve an aggreement and settlement or even Eroglu for that matter,you are simply dreaming.

Regardless what WE give to GCs,it would never be enough.

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 02:31

we would have been in the EU if not others where blocking us (TCs) and turkey! all this because of the declearance of the "independent state TRNC" by ubp in 1983 (remeber, talat cried because of this = he knew what would come!!).

instead of going the UN way and leaving the trnc as "türk federe devleti" UBP declared the TRNC. this issue made it nearly impossible to join any community. Talat is working on this to get it fixed and hes gone more than half of the way so far. If this big mistake would not have been done by UBP in the past, cyprus would have been unified in the late 80s! Let me say it like this: talat has cleaned half of the mess of 30 years UBP in a 5 years time. so this is a good go. give him another five years and it will be cleaned. give eroğlu 5 years and we are back there where we started. 30 years ago. Solution = obey int. decissions / laws + give some land back (as the turks invaded a bit too much) if not: stay unrecognized forever. simplzzz

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 08:11

msg 52;



"Solution=obey int.deceisions/laws+give some land back (as the turks invaded a bit too much)"



I'm having difficulty to understand the meaning of "invaded a bit too much"!!



REMEMBER????

A war took place here in Cyprus!



The only reason Turkey looks as an "invader" in the eyes of the rest of the world is because GCs have been refusing to sign a PEACE DEAL, since 1974,and that is because they WANT back what they lost in the war,like a little kid wanting back what he lost in a game(cry baby).

Well,I guess,they should not have gone in to the game if they didn't want to lose.



However,if things don't get any better,they may as well stay as they are(an old saying),as no doubt if a solution is found sooner or later history will repeat itself again (another old saying).



SHOW MUST GO ON!

henrik



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Posts: 314

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 11:30

look, war is never a "game"

read the books from that time, eg: from mehmet ali birand, and you will see that turkey was ready to withdraw. so no need for longer discussions there. Its the incopetence from the trnc politicians which made a sollution inpossible.

so get an update.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 11:43

"war is not a game"



I should know,I was in it!! You can read all the books you like,it would never match the actual experience.



As far books are concerned,there is no need for me as I was in it.

And the word of "game" was only mentioned to point out to you that,thats what GCs must think it was.



GAME IS OVER!!

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 12:32

books are always good as you are able to gain a look behing the sceens - which most of the people dont get when they are "in it" or believe to have been "in it".. I have friends fought in Erenköy which say that the political decissons made after the war were wrong. thats the point. I am not talking about the cruelties done by GCs before and during the war. I am not talking about the occurances which led to this war. The war was legitim - But the things which followed were not. This is the point. If the trnc politicians would have acted clever we could even have sued many GCs infront of warcrime tribunals .. these options where blown away due to the declarence of TRNC.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
11/04/2010 13:33

"beleive to have been in it"





Talk is not cheap,but FREE.Politicians are a prime example for that.



But,I don't expect you to understand what we had gone through,unless you too were standing next to a soilder shooting while you were digging trenches and filling sand bags one minute and next the soldier is shoot dead standing nex to you.

Take a wild guess how old I and many like me were when these were taking place.Never mind about my own dad being taken away by greek military police in front of UN soldiers right in front of his family (us) and being brought back home 2 days later by so called UN almost beaten to death.



So,lets put all that aside as well as what politicians did in the past and concantrate on what we want them to do next.After all,we put them there to do what we want them to do,including the ones in the past,if you know what I mean.



SHOW MUST GO ON!!

henrik



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Posts: 314

Message Posted:
12/04/2010 02:00

just an update.. :

http://www.kibrispostasi.com/index.php/cat/35/news/35201/PageName/KIBRIS_HABERLERI

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
12/04/2010 02:07

http://www.kibrispostasi.com/index.php/cat/35/news/35207/PageName/KIBRIS_HABERLERI



another one

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 11:39

the free TCs were shocked yesterday by this video showing a man who was forced to film himself while giving his vote to UBP !!

So what has happend?

Previously giving his vote, he was promised a job and given 50YTL by UBP officailas - he even named them. He had faced some difficulties, as he had an traffic accident where his wife died and he was wounded badly. He was not able to work for a long time and was in a big need of job to feed his kids.. So this was where UBP attacked. They promissed him everything. As he did not get any help from UBP after the last election he waited. Now he was told he should film himself (again) giving his vote to Eroğlu so then UBP will help him! This was to much for him and he confessed!.

This we call a democratic election! Everybody is shouting now for a strickt mobile phone ban in the voting cabins - analyst predict it may cost Eroğlu about 5 %!! Full Story: http://www.kibrispostasi.com/index.php/cat/35/news/35234/PageName/KIBRIS_HABERLERI

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/04/2010 12:32

msg60;

Never mind,the ones resigning from ORP and joining UBP would more then make up for that.



Democratic election!Whats the definition for that?

Avery close friend of mine(Mr.Sarica's nephew)was made redutant couple of years ago.A long serving DEV-IS member also,HE WAS.

He certainly DID NOT vote for CTP last year,and wont be voting for Talat this weekend either.He also was not the only person being made redundant from very same place.



Was that right?

I wander!!



We can throw all the mud as we like.What does that solve??



According to Mr.AVCI,his party agreed to support TALAT............





SHOW MUST GO ON

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
14/04/2010 12:10

Interview with Talta in Hürriyet, maybe some of you are able to understand, this guy has done a lot for TRNC!



- Uzlaşma adına taviz verdiğiniz iddiaları var.

- Derviş Bey politikası olmadığı için politika tartışmıyor ve ikili hiçbir televizyon programına çıkmıyor. ‘Talat taviz verdi’ diyor, ‘nedir’ diye soruyoruz cevap vermiyor. ‘Ben güçlüyüm seçimi kazandım’ havası yaratarak seçimi almaya çalışıyor. ‘Devleti yaşatacağım’ diyor. Yahu 2003’e kadar sürünerek yaşattı, doğrudur. Biz şu anda 2004’ten beri uluslar arası alanda KKTC ve Türkiye aleyhine hiçbir karar çıkartmadık. Türkiye dış politikada Kıbrıs sorunundan kurtuldu. Hiç de taviz vermedik. Anlaşma olduğunda da taviz vermiş olmayacağız çünkü iki kurucu devletimiz olacak, egemen olarak yetkilerini kullanacaklar ve uluslar arası tan&#

henrik



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Message Posted:
14/04/2010 12:10

cont:

Dış merkezlerde temsilcileri olacak kurucu devletlerin ve diplomatik listede olacaklar. KKTC’dekinden çok daha iyi bir noktaya taşınacak Kıbrıs Türkleri. Bugün geldiğimiz nokta azımsanacak bir nokta değil. Çözüm olmadı ama ilerleme oldu, elimizden geleni yaptık, bunu da açıkladık. Buna devam edeceğiz. Bu sürecin bize getirileri var, onları küçümsemeyiniz; AİHM kararı eski politikalar olsa çıkar mıydı sizce?

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