The hard liner wins

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
18/04/2010 22:32

Eroglu ,as predicted has won the election for President,what will this mean for the The Repulic of Northern Cyprus.My personal opinion is that Turkey will have already prepared for this eventuality taking place and will have already briefed Talats conquereor.He, (Eroglu) will have been told, in know uncertain terms that he must tow the political line regarding the talks.Failure to do so could result in a strangehold on funding to Northern Cyprus from Turkey.Just my opinion,

Paul.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
18/04/2010 22:39

see how the dust settles

cant see any gain by either of them re peace

rocking


Joined: 05/11/2008
Posts: 421

Message Posted:
18/04/2010 22:48

We have had peace since 1974 - great to see Eroglu win.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
18/04/2010 22:51

Rocking,

Why do you say that,

Paul.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/04/2010 22:54

We'll see how it pans out over the next few weeks.

professoregit


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 381

Message Posted:
18/04/2010 23:02

This is resultant from the EU's stupidity in allowing the accession of ROC into the EU after their NO vote on Annan and subsequent backtracking of promises made on direct trade. The Bubbles have blown both feet

off with a single shot by continuous intransigence. Mr C must be feeling like a right prat this evening. What

a bunch of tossers. Democracy rules in Northern Cyprus!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
18/04/2010 23:04

Well said nutty,

Paul.

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 14:12

I can't help but feel sad that Talat has lost. I suspect he was a good man at heart, who was trying to do what he believed was the right thing for his constituents. I don't know much about Sayin Eroglu, but he has to step up to the plate and deliver some kind of a future!

TopTen


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 16:09

Did I not read some where that Talat shed tears when the TRNC was formed, if this is correct the TCs have not shed tears in voting for Eroglu

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 16:22

RE msg 9, TopTen: Indeed. It was the day when Mr Rauf Denktaş became founding President of the TRNC, instigated by another great man, Dr Fazil Kücük, and others. Mr Talat chose that day to cry about the foundation of a safe place for Turkish Cypriots. Only to become President of TRNC later and start 'the talks' with his communist friend, the GC Christofias. TRNC history in a nutshell. I wish the current President, Mr Eroğlu and all TC's all the best and the prosperity they deserve.

MartinM


Joined: 03/10/2009
Posts: 166

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 17:39

I have been reading this bit about Talat crying now over a few posts, with mostly derogatory interpretations. I once met Mr Talat, many moons ago when he had just lost to Papa Denk in a Presidential election, and found him to be a reasonable fellow. Whilst he had nothing negative to say about Papa Denk, he still felt that he could be a good president of TRNC. Much is made of his weeping at the inauguration of TRNC. Maybe he was simply far-sighted enough to understand the full negative implications of this UDI. Perhaps he'd heard of Rhodesia and Mr. Iain Smith. I am NOT related to Mr Talat but I have visited his wife, professionally, on three occasions and my wife seems to think a lot of her.



I suggest we give him the benefit of the doubt when next time reference is made to his tears.

TheScarlets



Joined: 14/04/2009
Posts: 877

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 19:11

Paul



When you come out can you bring out your ironing board. So when Guido is cooking, Liz is serving the drinks you can do the ironing for us



Ian

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 20:31

Paul. Will always be Republic of Turkey would be a mess if not, TC have voted for there New president but i also believe that Turkey will have set guidelines for him to adhere to, in my opion of course.



Measey.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 20:40

I see in the 'Star' newspaper that Eroglu promised that foreigners will get their title deeds....I wonder when?



And what about all those, including myself, who've been arbitrarily been refused PTP due the the fatuous excuse that they are in too proximity to the military.



Supposedly, we've all had our credentials checked by 'Uncle Tom Cobbley and all' in order to be granted our visas, so how do a bunch of retirees and pensioners pose a threat to the 'might of the Turkish military'?

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 21:59

the articles I read stated that he is a nationalist, who speaks very little English. His view of Cyprus in not unification but 2 seperate individual states.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 22:13

RE msg 15, Katymckem: (...) who speaks very little English. (...)

=> Bl**dy h*ck! Dr. Derviş Eroğlu, the new President of TRNC, speaks very little English! Maybe he speaks very good Turkish, which is quite handy in this part of the world and especially in TRNC. And I'm almost sure he speaks better English (I heard him this morning in a radio interview), than Mr Gordon Brown speaks Turkish.

Here's more about President Eroğlu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derviş_Eroğlu

DittieD


Joined: 08/04/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 22:16

she said the articles she read 'stated'

- so she is quoting from an article.

maybe you need to read more English!!!!

HildySmith


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Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 22:20

thats right - not my opinion or concern - just what I read

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 22:24

RE msg 17, DittieD: (...) she said the articles she read 'stated' - so she is quoting from an article. maybe you need to read more English!!!! (...)

=> And I quoted from her quoted statement.

P.S. I promise to read more English, if you promise to write capital letters where they belong in the English language. And the use of more than one exclamation mark is an error in that same English language. Have a nice evening.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
19/04/2010 22:30

Now,now Dutch,

Paul.

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 00:53

Paul,

Excellent thread started and it is good to here what genuine EXPATS who are interested in what happens.

I do agree that Mr Ergolu will have his hands tied but from what I heard from TC's he is a man who realises that there is a lot at stake now rather than a few years ago.



I believe that there will be some changes but yes this is Cyprus so do not expect too many too soon.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 01:07

going against the tide and knowing little or nothing about eroglu,

there is some tradition of hardliners offering peace deals:



think de gaul handing over algeria, begin giving back sinai,

nice ronald reagan doing business with the affable gobachev

and nixon pulling out of vietnam, making peace with mao's china



how so?



well given an underlying surge towards a peace deal,

the hardliners never have to look over their shoulders at critcs

and being nationalistic are trusted enough to make concessions



regarding the cyprus "dispute" though

I am yet to be convinced there were ever really the ingredients

available for some sort of deal to be in the offing



the idea that the wrong bloke elected will somehow scupper

what would not have happened anyway is logically unsound



and the current dark mood of our friends in the south

almost as if sulking over a broken toy,

does suggest they are being swept along by bigger events

than a local election in provincial north cyprus

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 01:18

Andre514,



Your last paragraph is the main eyecatcher as it will be interesting to hear what sounds come from that direction.

The south have had almost 2 years of a new President whose wonderful words in his pre election were 'we will be in Kyrenia by Christmas'! - this is all forgotten in the south and as you mention are they really bothered.

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 12:08

Quote of the day from a reader of the south based Cyprus Mail.



"Its been a game of snakes and ladders and we have just landed on a snake, back to the beginning we go"

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 12:30

Eroglu will already have his mandate from Turkey,and will have been told in no uncertain terms that he must not start the talks all over again.Whether he heeds this advice, or orders, remains to be seen.Never a dull moment in Northern Cyprus,

Paul.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 12:32

Much is being made of the fact that Eroglu does not speak English, neither does Sarkosy or Angela Merkel but it hasn't stopped them having their say. Let's just give the man a chance, things can only get better as they say.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 17:10

please fall off your chairs with the "news" that turkey calls the shots in north cyprus

I can only say that:



firstly it is the regional superpower

secondly it has a powerful influence as the one active guarantor, and liberated the tc's

thirdly it has a permanent committment to the many of its own nationals settled in the trnc

fourthly due to the spiteful isolations it is forced to act as financial paymaster and support

lastly it inadvertantly acts as protector of the properties of much of the ex-pat population



'course , this may not be the ideal situation in very many repects...

but sadly the world is already overburdened with situations that are far from the optimum



andre

TheScarlets



Joined: 14/04/2009
Posts: 877

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 23:09

Paul



Was with Lilli earlier where were you?



Took my washing in to be ironed, I am very disappointed, you are the main man



Ian

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 23:12

Ian,

I was cooking a nice hot pot,

Paul.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 23:19

What is Eroglu's pay and what perks does the job give him?

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
20/04/2010 23:36

Msg 27, andre. Post of the week...... Well said !

It is just like that. Nothing more & nothing less.

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
21/04/2010 10:06

Just read this on the 'Latest news from cyprus' newsboard...............







"Under the title Has the new negotiating team been determined? Turkish Cypriot daily Haberdar newspaper (20.04.10) reports that according to information acquired from reliable sources after the victory of Dervis Eroglu, chairman of the National Unity Party (UBP), in the illegal presidential elections of 18 April in the occupied areas of Cyprus, the names of the team of Mr Eroglu during the Cyprus negotiations with President Christofias are the following: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun."







Well I suspect Mr Christofias is missing his old friend Mr Talat already! I hope he's got lots of pairs of brown trousers

Lambousa Gordon


Joined: 03/11/2007
Posts: 1992

Message Posted:
21/04/2010 10:17

Re Msg 22



Succintly and perfectly put.



A drink of your choice when you're next over; I'd like to expand the conversation.