interim agreement?

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 01:37

it is now looking very much like any sort of accommodation

between the two sides is just not going to happen,

(did I hear "thank goodness for that"?)

at least for the next few years or perhaps never,

for reasons that have been discussed ad nauseam on this bb



is it possible to propose an interim deal

which could appeal to both sides in the dispute as a step

towards improving the quality of life on the island generally?

perhaps the trnc could work on some sort of charm offensive

based on real and concrete proposals when and if the talks run out of steam



after all, it is the north that somehow is labelled intransigent,

even as the south works overtime to prop up the blockade

I am thinking especially of a common water, energy and ecology agreement that of necessity would be in partnership with greece and turkey

this to help solve the desperate and growing shortages on cyprus...



there may be some sort of agreement to begin direct flights

especially in these days of fuel and carbon economy:

but no sane person could ever expect the south to use the "r" word

because "recognition" would undercut their whole modus operandi

and their approach has often seemed like a load of "r's" anyway,

but perhaps they could get something back in exchange for direct flights

on a purely pragmatic basis possibly their abandoned hotels

near 'magusa or other minor adjustments or involving their church properties or free movement etc (hope I am not treading on anyone's toes!!!)



whatever could be found for them, it must not be like the munich agreement which was a huge giveaway in exchange for a worthless chit



please tell me if I am being very naive



andre

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 12:24

andre,



Why so pessimistic? What I hear is that the leaders of both sides insist that a solution must be found .Undoubtedly there are going to be difficulties! No one ever said it was going to be easy!

THERE IS JUST SO MUCH IN THE PAST, THAT HAS TO BE FORGIVEN, IF NOT FORGOTTEN.



Could they not consider a series of confidence building measures, as an interim step. A pipeline from Turkey bringing fresh (much needed water) could benefit both communities.



Maybe a framework to compensate EVERYONE who lost land or property (at 1974 rates)

would help reduce much of the deep emnity felt on both sides.



Maybe the lifting of the restriction on direct flights to the North. These surely are points that the EEC could promote without taking sides.!



What is certain is that for a total resolution to be achieved THE PAST has to be put behind them. and that is where the major stumbling block will remain!



AN INTERIM STEP OF CONFIDENCE BUILDING MEASURES? WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK? Only an optomists view!



wyn

Aslan


Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 757

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 12:48

Another 34 year interim does not sound like a bad idea!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 16:44

Wyn,



Why do you personally think that legal property owners should only be compensated at 1974 rates?



Umm...



Tough one.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 19:53

Oh no! Not him again!



Is this ---- a computer virus?



Give peace a chance!



wyn.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 21:06

Perhaps in 1974 GC,s decided to put their home prices on hold and draw a line in the sand so to speak ?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 21:33

Its really difficult to argue with that TURT!



wyn

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 22:05

Im a simple lad Wyn, and I try to look at life in a simplistic way (no over complication here) but I do really struggle with peoples spin on the truth to justify what they believe.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 22:18

Yep, Turt, but you don't need 20-20 vision to see reality.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 22:34

Its not my eyes thats the problem PP, its just that I don't like what I sometimes see

People see things differently through tainted lenses.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/07/2008 22:52

Fair point.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
03/07/2008 22:23

i speak with a lot of gc everyday, most want a solution.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
03/07/2008 23:03

Fire st,

Do you think that could be because they (g.c.) believe they would have a bigger say on important political issues.

Paul.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
03/07/2008 23:06

Hi Firestarter



Do they talk about what kind of solution they are looking for?

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
05/07/2008 06:33

they will tell you that they want a solution based on one vote for everyone, which will still give them control. this cannot be acceptable to the tc's. they also want their land and houses back, without this no solution. they will also tell you that none of them exchanged property in the north for property in the south. they don't care who purchased it, i've even argued with them that if this were to happen loads of e.u citizens would be homless, and that two wrongs don't make a right. to be honest they don't care they want it all back. anyone who is interested have a look at the cyprus-forum. it would be nice to see more brits join this forum also to stand up and argue their point of view. be warned its not easy!

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/07/2008 09:18

Thanks firestarter, that's very interesting.