mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 15:49

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649012.stm



Calls a Labour voter asking him questions a 'bigot'..



HE says she raised the question of EU immigration 'Eastern Europeans' - who have every right to live / work in the UK - as much as we have in say - Cyprus..



I wonder who is telling the truth... ?



Mr Brown, I won't be voting for you, but if the lady WAS moaning about EU immigrants - YOU WERE RIGHT !

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 15:53

Best Gaff of the Election so far!



http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Gordon-Brown-Apologises-For-Calling-A-Woman-Gillian-Duffy-Bigoted-In-Rochdale/Article/201004415621596?lpos=Politics_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15621596_Gordon_Brown_Apologises_For_Calling_A_Woman_Gillian_Duffy_Bigoted_In_Rochdale

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 17:32

Shut the door Gordon on your way out!

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 18:42

And..............please turn out the lights!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 18:45

Plus: write about Northern Cyprus. That's what the owner aims at. Easy, ain't it?!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 18:51

RE msg 4, Clarets: (...) And..............please turn out the lights! (...)

=> Clarets, how interesting! I see that you have changed your profession in your profile! it's now Occupation: -. But I have a screenshot, completely different! Which one are we to believe? You're not a 'doctor, in you know why' anymore? Please carify...

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 20:04

Says a lot. The woman is a lifelong labour supporter and says she is going to have to pay tax for years to get out of the problems Gordon has given us. I just hope the rest of them have worked this one out.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 20:22

>>Plus: write about Northern Cyprus. That's what the owner aims at. Easy, ain't it?!<<



Dear Hans, can you please explain how talking running Mac OS on a Wintel box is any more relevant ?



I presume your glasshouse has no glass in it, now ;)



Chill, dude

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 20:55

6m;



Don't be so presumptuous



The lady concerned had genuine questions re immigrants and many other topics and put them to the PM very politely.



She did not deserve to be called a bigot any more than you do for being pro GC.



Democracy innit!

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 21:07

Labour Party Stands For Left Wing Trosgy Ars------. i think you will find that the UNIONS run the Labour Party.



Measey.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 21:51

I wasn't going to vote labour but after today, and seeing remarks on here, I think I might!

How come we don't hear any "overheard" remarks from any other party? I am deeply suspicious.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 22:09

msg 11. Should you not be voting for policies and not just because of remarks made on here?

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 22:52

Woodspeckie: thought you weren't going to post on here again. Why don't you go warm your husband another pie up (whilst you have ribeye steak +) and leave the intelligent debating to those equipped for same.



Tony

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 22:58

RE msg 13, minertor: Why don't you - just once - write something expats in TRNC or TC's would benefit from? You're negative and destructive and nothing else. Proud of yourself?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 23:13

Msg 8, 6xm (...) Dear Hans, can you please explain how talking running Mac OS on a Wintel box is any more relevant ? (...)

=> Dear Mark, I' wrote for people living in TRNC - I didn't write for people once living in the Rest of Cyprus, then living in in the Uk, then holidaying in Mongolia with his parents in law, then etc. Your interest in the TRNC has become pathetic, your predictions about the future of TRNC have become ridiculous. You are the only one who still cannot see it. Go on, write on the Southern board - you are a prophet, ok, but let us live in the peace we have in TRNC. Bye!

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 23:14

message 9:



is 6m pro-gc? consider the evidence:



his family life was marred by shabby treatment dished out to mrs by the republic of "cyprus"

and he promoted the abortive annan plan compromise in 2004 which the gc's united against

finally he participates in an "illegal" north cyprus forum with many suggestions



on the other hand he believes that legalistic measures will push the north to unify with the r.o.c

and claimed that talks about co-operation over ambulance services could be a good start (really?)

lastly he credits the failing talks with an aura of importance that tc's I meet don't believe is merited



the jury as they say...is out

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 23:31

Meanwhile,......



Gordon Brown has probably done undue harm to Labours Election prospects.



The political processes in the UK, the EU,... (including Holland), will have an effect upon many UK or EU expats in NC.



For example, if the UK had a hung Parliament with the LibDems in a decisive role, what would be the effect on NC if the Euro was introduced as part of a bi-zonal agreement?



Many expats also have families in their home countries, they will also be affected.



Rob

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
28/04/2010 23:47

RE msg 17 ,RobnJo: (...) The political processes in the UK, the EU,... (including Holland), will have an effect upon many UK or EU expats in NC. (...)

=> Fairy tale nr. 1. What do non-Brits care about "political processes" in the UK (Ha ha! Are you talking about the corruption in the "Mother of Parliaments"?!) in a part of the Western European world, where most of the people do not want to "share" our 'problem'? Keep your beloved Pound and let the 800 million idiots in the rest of Europe struggle with the Euro. And we'll all be happy.

P.S. In the past six years *I* didn't complain - not ever - about the interest on my Euro account - the posts of British people complaining about the downfall of the interest on their Sterling accounts are numerous.

P.P.S. Telling each other facts here now. How many British people HAD to leave the island because they couldn't hold up their own pants - because of the downfall of the Pound...?!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 00:03

Well done GB. At least he spoke his mind ! Womder what smarmy Cameron thinks when he is caught off guard by a naggin old bag!



And DC for PM.....at least he tell it how it is.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 00:08

The guys a clown

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 00:14

RE msg 20, Blackbird : (...) The guys a clown (...)

=> Most confusing post of the year (until now)! The guy is a clown? The guys are clowns? What the h*ck did you try to write?!

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 00:17

DC; never let the facts get in the way of truth.



You're 800million idiots seems a tad excessive considering only around 368million live in the 16 nation eurozone.



Speaking of governance how's your southern neighbour doing these days?



Come to think of it how's your northern neighbour doing?



Read Der Spiegel about the euromess



very informative.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 01:13

mmmm I agree with you, and even though I am still undecided,



















mmmm I agree with your point, which is what I was also trying to say. I may not vote for him

this time, but he is right in this respect. I won't be voting for Cameron or Clegg either! Neither

have policies that are convincing.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 01:14

I'm really sorry Dutch, was my post confusing? Just four words no (....) no stuff like h*ck...just the four words.

So, which part of' the guys a clown' didn't you understand?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 01:27

RE msg 22, Newscoop: (...) Read Der Spiegel about the euromess (...)

=> Ok, I can if I want to. Can you?

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 09:10

Gawd, Blackbird, even I can tell your sentence makes no sense.



A contractional apostrophe (and a period) might help, though...

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 09:16

And as this post, like so many others, seems to be including its fair share of whinges (and whingers), here's one of mine, somewhat on topic (or maybe not):



I've just secured a UK visa for my wife so we can visit London in August. I asked if we could go to the continent while there, and was told we couldn't. We needed a Schengen visa as well. This doubles the price.



Can anyone explain to me why the UK is different from the rest of the EU?

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 09:18

DC;



I most certainly can read Der Spiegel



As I said, it is very informative about things european.

Corbo



Joined: 13/09/2009
Posts: 627

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 09:36

Anway for once I agree with the Sun (an English Newspaper Hans); Brown is Toast! (Sliced bread that has been grilled).

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 09:48

[IMG] http://i39.tinypic.com/k4ghhz.jpg[/IMG]

stilluvithere



Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 765

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 09:51

Blackbird, don't forget DC is not English, we English knew what you meant but it should read, the guy is a clown or the guy's a clown. That is if my schoolboy grammar is correct

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 13:54

D.C's English is far better than some of the native speakers who post (not all, I hasten to add!)

Both in grammar and spelling he gets top marks, but idioms and other sayings

are not always understood even by native speakers of a different area, age etc.

davedee



Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 15:43

message 11 because the other parties have not got such a baffoon steering the ship.

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 957

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 15:57

Gordon Brown is toast he is such an idiot.

basheer



Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 948

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 16:13

'bigot ! worse words could been used I will still vote him

the Mayor of London came to our road with all the conservative playcards and support,he walked into my salon and asked if the hairdressers was my shop to which i said yes, and i said unless you control open market rents squezing us for every borrowed penny and reduce the vat for small service industry you won't see the like of us in the next 5 yrs . He smiled and walked on tell me what did that smile mean bigot too?

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 16:30

By association, anyone who objects to the present mass immigration in the UK is also seen by him as a bigot. By all accounts that's a majority of voters.

Obviously he doesn't accept that there is a problem which needs solving. And he's certainly not listening to the electorate. As an EU member we have to accept free movement of EU citizens as we have no veto in the matter.

If you're in favour of the EU just put up with it, or elect UKIP !

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 17:52

In a few years of Brown in government my community charge quadrupled, my nearly completed endowments lost all profits and suffered a 10% shortfall, he trousered over 60% of my personal pension fund, removed as not politically correct the oldest and most efficient secular office in the UK and thus my employment bringing premature retirement from work I loved. Apart from squandering of gold reserves etc prudence funded Blair's ego trip in the Middle East so Blur Blair now believes that he is chosen by God to bring peace to the Middle East. Can call him worse than an idiot. Needs a suicide pact with Blair and collateral damage to all the other cronies such as Mandelson (Meddlesome), 2 Jags, etc who have brought UK to the edge of disaster as the Disunited Kingdom. Phew, got that off me chest then ! I have siblings and relatives aged in their 70s who always thought of themselves as "true labour" but would now never vote for them again.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 18:20

msg 14; what's up, Hans, still smarting about the cat getting out of the bag about you're moneymaking "FREE" walks scam.



You be negative about people you don't like and I'll do the same.

I recollect you agreeing with me on more than one occasion, so come clean for once, it is the scam, isn't it ,that's stuck in your craw?



Tony

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 18:50

Wow!! deputydawg you certainly don't hold back do you ? I agree and also he.....

Hits us with stealth taxes...and spent it. Then had to..

Borrow....and spent it. Then....

Sold 60% of Gold reserves at low prices, against Treasury advice, to pay for his prodigality.

Abondoned sweet Prudence and took up with those harlots Profilagacy and Improvidence.

Promised to Banish those knaves Boom and Bust and then reinstated them.

Failed to regulate the financial market worsening the recession.

Promised to listen to the voter and then calls us Bigots when we disagree with him.



Has there ever been a worse tax and spend chancellor in recent UK history ? Or a more useless PM ?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 19:16

Dear Geejay



As you correctly say.. EU citizens can come to the UK as they please.. Mr Brown DID try to tell the women that UK folk can and DO also move freely abroad..



So.. the woman WAS and IS a bigot... BTW You forgot.. folk fed up with Eastern Europeans could also vote BNP, too !



So, imagine - no longer being members of the EU and Brits needing to have visas and Residency Permits... ;) ? [ irony intended - just for Hans ;) ]

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 19:56

I don't think it matters if Gordon the moron was right or wrong in what he said about the pensioner. The fact he said it at all tells you all you need to know about his state of mind and intellect.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 19:56

Msg 38, minertor: My answer is still in message 14 - in every message of yours I'm proven right. Very satisfying.

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 19:57

6m;



I thought better of you



Mrs Duffy is most definitely not a bigot.



She has real concerns that only the most superficial cannot see or contemplate



Still, if the cap fits?

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 20:00

Re : Msg 27,



"Can anyone explain to me why the UK is different from the rest of the EU?"



Good question, Rottolover..



You should perhaps ask your government why they had refused to join Schengen area when it was first created and keep refusing since. UK has never bothered to invest into a proper border control. Recent Border Force is a " too little too late" measure. Hence the hordes of illegal immigrants ( more than 1 million) - many of whom are convicted criminals - roaming the the British Isles.

And of course for the immigration authorities it is much easier to harass law-abiding non- EU spouses and their families (UK consulates are notorious for their attitude) than to deal with the real problems of illegal immigration.

Your wife has my sympathy.



Clarissa

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 20:14

msg 42, am I proven right then? you're still smarting about your scam being made public. It was one of your ex mates (there's plenty of them, aren't there) that first mentioned your over priced photos and cd's. Do you still advertise your walks as "FREE"?. Don't bother threatening to stop doing them, you can't afford to.



Tony



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minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 20:23

ps I'm in UK for a few weeks, Daft Cxnt, but I will be back, and, unlike Brinsley, I am not a cripple. Do you want to threaten me, as you threatened him, for exposing your scam.



Tony

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 20:36

Mark re msg 40



You miss the point totally!



Gordons 'false flag' answer that 1m Brits work in Europe ignores the fact that they are mostly skilled, tradespeople or professionals. They have not moved to Europe for minimum wage subsistence jobs or freely available benefits.



The 1m E European immigrants that she was querying are practically all on minimum wage, often abused by 'Gangmasters', living in squalid conditions and often applying for benefits or Social help and access to the NHS.



She was most definitely NOT a bigot!



She was looking for answers from our Prime Minister,.. he just fobbed her off with yet more crap!





Have you ever heard of gangs of Brit pickpockets and thieves operating in Europe? Brits involved in People traficking and prostitution in Romania or Poland? Brit beggars in Europe? Living in squalor?







You really are way off track.





Rob

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 20:45

Unfortunately Rob, so are you. Most economic migrants flock to UK to make a better life for their families. It's not their fault that UK border agency let them in. They will, eventually, sink the lifeboat that they see as UK.

The Poles are going home, albeit with their pockets full of sterling, but what would you do to benefit your family. If we let them, they will come, and who can blame them.



Tony

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 20:59

Tony



Sorry, I don't agree.



When have you ever heard of Brit 'migrants' to Europe being accused of taking jobs off locals at minimum wages and abusing welfare sysytems?



It just doesn't happen.



p.s. I live amongst a large Polish community in West London, they are not going home with 'their pockets full of sterling', they are opening businesses, buying homes, and being widely accepted as welcome and beneficial to our economy.



Have you ever actually talked to Polish people?



Or just read articles in the Daily Mail?



Rob

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 21:12

mr potato head once got three votes for elections guess his name was gordon brown and he got in

off with his head

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 21:16

Lets see tonight as to what pitiful excuse he offers not only for the 'GAFF' but the Economical State of Britain!

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 21:23

I missed out on this post, good job too! I entered the UK as a British Subject when 9 years old but that privilege was taken away from me, how rules change.................!



Richard

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 22:20

3. Be Polite

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.





OK Guys. You know the rules. Please no more. There will not be another warning.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 22:37

msg 49; Robnjo, from the early 60's until the late 70's I was a miner in the Yorkshire coalfields. I met many Poles, most of them ex WW11 soldiers. The respect I had for these men was not reciprocated. Most of them thought that we, the English, had let hem down in WW11. I gathered that this was because they were now ruled by USSR. After all these years I still remember some of these people, a Little Englander I am not.

I don't mind, unlike some, if you do not agree. We are all entitled to our opinion.



Tony

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 22:51

Rob - message 49.



I agree with you entirely. I live in East Anglia, although London born and bred. We have large communities of Eastern European workers, as well as Portuguese. The point that strikes me is this - many Eastern Europeans are prepared to work for less than the minimum wage. All well and good, to some extent, and many companies are more than willing to employ them, understandably. However, what seems to have been 'overlooked' (if that is the right word) is the strain that this places on the country as a whole. The health service is struggling, as are schools, with this huge influx. To me, what is good news for employers is not, necessarily, good for the country as a whole. I work for a GP practice and what it costs the health service in interpretation service alone, is phenomenal. I would like, for example, to visit, say, Latvia, and see what services I am offered free of charge. However, as others have said, if these benefits were offered, who would refuse?

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
29/04/2010 23:03

Jeannie, it is illegal, in this country, to pay workers less than the minimum wage, no matter how willing the workers are to accept it. This is maybe the crux of the complaint about economic migrants.



D

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 02:04

Why do "little englanders" always claim not to be so?

Most ( not all ) brit ex-pats in my experience are just that!!

Alf Garnet / Os Mosley/ Nick Griffin would be proud of you all !!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 02:33

re 47 RobnJo

You miss the point totally! ..actually as someone married to an immigrant from Eastern Europe, living quite legally in the UK - The women is a BIGOT- an ignorant one, at that..



>>1m Brits work in Europe ignores the fact that they are mostly skilled, tradespeople or professionals. They have not moved to Europe for minimum wage subsistence jobs or freely available benefits. << Have you actually opened your eyes? Check out the bars in Limassol.. ? Many broke pensioners - who can't afford to live in the Euro-zone on UK pensions, and tradesman builders who can't find a job.. so much for your skilled workforce and 'affluence'.



Did you know that Eastern Eurpeans have NOT taken jobs from Brits? Did you know that most employers PREFER 'em as they are highly intelligent and work FAR harder?



Ask in a nursing home - owners / residents - would you like the E.Europeans to have to go home?. NO.. they do the jobs Brits don't want ! They have as much right to jobs as Brits.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 02:48

Brits abroad are using the health services of the host nations and their kids are being educated at state schools..



I've encountered the locals resentment at my biz taking away 'their' trade, and reminded them ' you wanted in the EU, I've as much right to be here as you'



It is somewhat ironic to hear you 'attempt' to tell me 'I'm off track' .. We've seen how ignorant locals behave from both sides..



It's pure ignorance.. Certain political parties are 'feeding' off such 'fear' .. it's reprehensible.



I know the EU is corrupt and inefficient, but the members haven't had a war - and it is high time many folk in the UK realised that EU citizens can move to / live in ANY EU state they chose, and we had better 'buck up' and be better educated about our neighbours... soon we may need to go to work / live in their nations..



Sadly, British citizens get arrested in EU nations for theft / drugs offences and disorderly behaviour..



I am surprised you need to be reminded of suc

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 02:51

such things...



I would have respected Brown more if he had of stuck to his guns....

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 02:55

BTW you do know the definition of a bigot..? .a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.... I'd say that describes Mrs Duffy, perfectly.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 03:15

It might not interest you much, but I do recall visiting a very fine textile factory which manufactures

finest Cashmere woollen products that they were highly appreciative of their Eastern European (Polish I think)

craftswomen, without whom they could not manage. Employers will employ those who are good at their jobs and our economy depends on it. The world doesn't owe you a living, you must go where the work you can do is.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 03:56

p.s I had to do this also in the dark days of Tory gov. when our country - Scotland was reduced

to horrendous unemployment - over 30% in my area. And I was at that time a young widow with

4 children, well eudcated and it was agony to see them trying to find work. I will never forget those

times which should have been the best but they were they worst.

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 09:48

DC.....where exactly does it say that I have "changed" my occupation. Pray tell.......what have I changed it to ? I am still registered with the GMC and go to work in Barrowford every day ! Brown is off soon,long live the alternative!

Corbo



Joined: 13/09/2009
Posts: 627

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 09:59

Looks like a Tory/ Lib pact now. Cameron won last nights debate but no one answered the budget deficit question as predicted. However, this is a poisoned chalice of the highest order. With the state of the economy and millions completely dependent on the state for survival and many more millions working for the Government, the nuked budget deficit will have to be tackled or else the IMF will soon run the country. When the cut backs happen as they must the screaming, riots and demo's will commence and those in power will be the target for the millions of sheep.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 10:16

Dear RobnJo



re my posts 59-61



Please excuse the 'ranting nature' of the post .... too much pent up passion :(

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 10:38

RE msg 64, clarets: I was just wondering - thanks for your answer. And for the alternative: let's hope the LibDem's candidate Mr Nick Clegg will join the government - he speaks perfect Dutch (his mother is Dutch), so the outstanding friendly relations between British and Dutch people will be even better than they are already now.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
30/04/2010 14:08

Mark



re msg 66



We all have our own experiences which will dictate our personal views.



It would be a boring life if we all agreed about everything!



If you and I do not always accept the others view,.....





Perhaps we are both 'Bigots'???





Rob

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
01/05/2010 03:07

bttt. I am interested in what Minorter has to say. when he can, so letsa keep trhis live.



D

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
01/05/2010 09:25

re 68



RobnJo



A good resolution.. ;)

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
01/05/2010 19:37

6m;



your continued slandering of Mrs Duffy shows you to be a BIGOT!



She is an ordinary pensioner with ordinary views which deserve to be heard.



Only intolerant folk would say otherwise.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
01/05/2010 21:26

Everybody wants too big a slice of too small a cake - in the EU, as that concerns us, no politician can possibly deliver the 'goods' of such unreasonably high expectations!

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
02/05/2010 00:05

Our localTory candidate has been expelled from party and also suspended from his job as a primary

teacher because he said that such things as "gays" were not normal. I am sorry, but even though I

would not vote for him, this is political correctness gone foo far. Although I would not agree with all

that he says, the fact remains, he speaks for the majority in our region, and if they are "neandearthal"

sorry, but that is what the people feel. They do not want teaching to our primary kids about this

subject, for various reason, both religious and moral.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
02/05/2010 11:34

re msg 71



Newscoop



To BE a Bigot one would have to demonstrate:



elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.



I said the woman is an ignorant ( of the law re EU citizens rights) Bigot - where is the flaw in that statement..IF you listened to her complaining about all the Eastern Europeans complaining ..?



Feel free to revert when you have REALLY thought before posting......

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
02/05/2010 22:54

RE msg 13, minertor: Why don't you - just once - write something expats in TRNC or TC's would benefit from? You're negative and destructive and nothing else. Proud of yourself?

This is the message that led to my ban, posted by DC, (It's copy and post, ergo the ' in TC's that shouldn't be there) posted 6 mins after my banter with a former "protagonist, nothing to do with Hans. This was after he had a pop at clarets in this thread and before similar pops at mmmmmm, all Brits, (for the downfall of the pound) blackbird and newscoop. Then he, DC, has the nerve to whinge that I'm always stabbing him in the back. The last time I had a bad posting from DC was late sept. last year when he inferred that I was a coward.

I was in UK at the time but was due to fly over in a couple of days. I told Hans that I would be at the opening of his chess club on Oct 5th and he'd find out whether I was a coward or not. He replied that I had misunderstood him, he didn't mean me. cont

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
02/05/2010 23:09

cont, in the last 7 months I have not had one snide comment from DC, ha has usually agreed or kept quiet. I returned to UK on 24th April and the message from DC was posted on 28th April.

I will always defend by attacking, but my nasty head is in it's box, so I can answer without being banned again.

I am not complaining about the ban, it was deserved. DC then starts a thread (now closed so I can't reply)defending himself against my accusation that he was running a scam with his map/cd sales. I noticed how he reacted to Brinsley's post about tax on his earnings from these and his reply. All members that have run a business will be familiar with creative accounting, that's why we pay them so much.

I noticed by the supportive postings in his "defending my reputation, re. scams" post how naive some marks are. These will go a long way to proving my point. I will explain the mechanics of scamming, or confidence tricks in a continuation. I am not accusing DC of doing this, just the mech

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
02/05/2010 23:26

cont. confidence tricks are usually pulled by 2 artists. Like good cop bad cop. The first stage is to build up a rapport with your mark/s. Make them like you and trust you. Put yourself out for them. When the time comes for the hit, dangle it (there's a chess equivalent, poison pawn or something) DO NOT look like you are trying to sell them anything. Let them think that buying your crap is their idea. (afterwards you'll moften find marks saying "he never pushed us to buy anything, but we did anyway" Del Trotter is only a learner at this game. Must admit I parted with 20tl. Before the world fall on me, answer me a question or two. How many found the upside maps any use on the walk? How many maps were laminated, I creased mnine so felt obliged to buy it. How many thought the cd had dialogue on it? How many have actually looked at the photos since you downloaded them. DC says I attack him because I don't like him, he's right about my not liking him but I only attack in response to his.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
02/05/2010 23:45

cont: nearly finished. If half the members on his "FREE" walks pay 20tl, DC is raking in about 240 - 300 tl for 90 minutes work. I will now ask Hans a question or two and I promise to believe his answers and not mention this subject again.

1/ how much do you maqke on your "FREE" walks.

2/ Would you continue the "FREE" walks if you weren't selling your tat.

3/ How much do you take in 4/5 hours at Lambousa on Saturdays

You did say that anyone is welcome to vist your accountant, we can't all go so could you answer the questions, and prove to your supporters how wrong I am.

As to your assertion that I am 100% negative, I will, reluctantly, list the names of some members that know me. Could they post any negative comments about me, without prejudice. First on the list must be your friends, Guido and Liz, Chris (nurseawful) Smithy, deccandyl, japeal, micksturbs, Brinsley, Johnny lee, fiendishpaul, denizen. Leave it at that for now, no positives please, don't want you in his bads bookj

Isabella


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
03/05/2010 00:19

How childish you are Minertor. I would recommend DC not to even answer this person as whatever your answer it will only allow him to continue in the same manner.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
03/05/2010 00:42

How childish you are Minertor. I would recommend DC not to even answer this person as whatever your answer it will only allow him to continue in the same manner.

Do you know what this about, Isabella?

Don't concern yourself about Hans not answering "this person" I was banned for reacting to Hans's attack on me. Click on profiles, go back as far as you can and you will find I have never attacked hans, or anyone else unless they have attacked me or my friends first. The problem on this forum is caused by stupid people like you that post without knowing what the prevailing situation is. At the risk of another ban I will say that DC is a classic bully type, next time you are in his company, ignore him and direct your attention to Trixy, she will not answer without getting his approval. I picked up on this without spending too much time in their company. I have defended myself, nothing more, nothing less.

Tony

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
03/05/2010 02:34

How childish you are Minertor. I would recommend DC not to even answer this person as whatever your answer it will only allow him to continue in the same manner.



why don't you look at what is happening here, are you so thick that you can't think for youreself. "how childish you are Minertor" what person with half a brain would take any notice of what you "think" look at the posts. Why do you think that "Odious Hans" has withdrawn into his shell. He knows he has been found out, he will return because he can't do any other. He will claim that it is to help others, he is a liar. When he is helping he is second to none, unfortunately he thinks he is indispensable, he isn't.

D

Isabella


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
03/05/2010 08:49

Minerter - you say you have never attacked anyone else - I do not need to read any further after the comments you have made about me - I can clearly get a picture of your personality.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
03/05/2010 09:02

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread went off topic.