Kochan Regisration and Legal Boundary Determination in NORTH CYPRUS

LandSurveyor


Joined: 19/04/2010
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 17:11

Nuzi Land and Cadastral Bureau in Kyrenia and Famagusta is ready for registration your house on the kochan and boundary determination in mm(milimeter accuracy) accuracy legally in NORTH CYPRUS. NUZİ LAND AND CADASTRAL SURVEY BUREAU HAS done over 900 legal boundary determination and over 2000 kochan registratilon in Cyprus. We have a Surveyor Team, Drawing office TEAM which we make jobs fast!!!!!!!!!
Why would I need a Land Surveyor?

• To determine the boundaries of a property being sold or bought

• Estate planning

• Settle disputes

• Construction planning

• Install a fence

• To divide a parcel of land into two or more lots on an existing road or with the creation of a new road

• To prepare site plans for submission to town Boards

• Historical Research

• Accident Investigation (Insurance)

• Contract Compliance

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 17:17

How much does this service cost ??? To determine the boundaries of a property being sold or bought

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 17:29

Just a question out of curiosity: How do you determine the boundary to an accuracy of a mm or did I understand it wrongly? You say that you determine the boundary in mm but of course that is not really a measure of accuracy. For example you may show a distancve in mm but the accuracy is a matter of plus or minus so much which could be in thousands of mm Can you clarify it please?

ismet

caulkhead


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 17:40

What are your qualifications please? Do you operate in accordance with any international standards, for example, the Code of Measuring Practice?

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
04/05/2010 18:09

Are you saying you can offer a parcellisation service of a complex and if so what are your charges?







The butlers wife

LandSurveyor


Joined: 19/04/2010
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 09:22

Dear Sir/madam

Our contact number is 0533 858 11 29

or

canipsonatli@gmail.com



We offer mm. accuracy depending on our static GPS survey technique

Our prices are 500 TL for boundary determination

and for registration of one house is 600 TL

the prices are included the taxes we are paying for the Land district office



regards

canip sonatlı

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 09:28

msg. 6

"We offer mm. accuracy" tells me nothing about the accuracy. You imply that your accuracy is within a mm which I am sure is not true. So what is your accuracy and do you guarantee it by signing documents to that effect?

ismet

LandSurveyor


Joined: 19/04/2010
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 16:59

Mr ismet

We sign a document and give it to our customers, which shows every point with coordinates in mm precision

for example;

X coordinate is 3890527.228 m= means that mm. accuracy because the coordinate unit is in m (meter). on the right side of the dot is dm,cm,mm.



canip

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 17:27

msg. 8

I am sorry but I did not get the answer to my questsion which is simple but perhaps we have a language problem here. Your measurment may be in millimetres but that does not mean that the accuracy is to one millimetre.

Let me give you an example: Suppose I measure the voltage of my domestic electricity as 243.2 volts. That does not mean that the accuracy is within 0.1 volts. The proper way to define it is 243.2 plus or minus 2 volts or whatever it is. Unless you tell me how much plus or minus it tells me nothing about the accuracy. So please tell me about your accuracy in terms of plus or minus so much!!!!

ismet

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
08/05/2010 19:38

Two days passed but no answer to my question. Does this mean that

a) You do not know the answer, or

b) You do not want to give a definite answer.



I am really interested in a true answer but of course nobody can pull the wool over my eyes on such technical matters.

ismet

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
08/05/2010 19:48

elko2 Msg10:



I think the answer to your question might be: it depends on how much his hand/wrist is shaking while holding his 'tool'!

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
08/05/2010 20:08

Elko, if these guys are for real, then as cadastral surveyors they should be dealing with accuracy qualifications as a ratio of the distances measured. In Australia, for example, cadastral accuracy is required to be at least 1:8000.



This means that a job measuring, say, 200metres in total length would require you to be accurate to + or - 2.5cms in the positioning of each mark.



But the ratio is a governmental requirement in Australia. What it is in TRNC, if anything, I have no idea. But you're quite correct...quoting positions to the nearest millimetre is meaningless.



All qualified surveyors should understand the difference between accuracy and precision.

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
08/05/2010 22:11

elko2, are you not being a litle pedantic here? If this company can in fact offer an acceptably accurate service in determening boundaries to the satisfaction of the relavent authorities, then why belitle them, when we all know that the only accurate measurement known to TRNC officials and builders and lawyers is the number of 100TL notes to the mm in a brown envelope.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
09/05/2010 12:05

msg. 13

I did not belittle anybody. I simply asked the accuracy of their measurements in definite terms without the use of certain terms which imply something but nothing solid behind it. I am an engineer and I am used to precise talk in such matters without leaving any room for any doubt. Let us hope that this company who is seeking our custom will come up with clear answers and not repeat the same vague phrase as in the original post.

ismet

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
09/05/2010 14:52

Message 14



If you read your first comment in message 3 you will see, if you are being honest, that you are being pedantic. This sounds to me as if it is a reliable service in terms of reported dimentions. Land registry only need drawings showing measured sizes for their files. Do you think that an official will visit and deduct points if the quoted size is inaccurate by 1000's of a millimeter?



Get real

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
09/05/2010 15:22

msg. 15

Mr. Vince;

One of the services offerred as stated in msg. 1 is:

"To determine the boundaries of a property being sold or bought"

So my question of how accurate their measurement is very important. We all heard of stories where one has to demolish a wall and rebuild it one meter away or so. Hence my question about the accuracy is genuine and not pedantic at all.

ismet

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
09/05/2010 15:36

Hey Mr Vince, just to be a bit pedantic here, what exactly did you mean by "1000's of a millimetre"?



Did you mean 1000ths of a millimetre (which would be micrometric in size), or 1000's of millimetres (which would be a lot more manageable)?

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
09/05/2010 16:34

from looking at some of the land registry drawings, the thickness of a line would prevent the determination of a border to a single mm. That is not the same as saying a point is 3890527.228m. I'm amazed that anyone can calibrate their measuring instruments to that accuracy over a distance. Elko is right, all measurements are +/-, e.g. +/- 0.25m