What is happening to the UK?

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 09:57

My better half works for a large Multinational whom are dependant on the MOD for their contracts . A memo was sent out to everyone last week telling the staff whom to vote for in the coming elections as this will affect future contracts!!!

What is happening in the UK?

It really makes me want to permanently leave.

Yesterday I read that we will be stopped from giving out tips on tax savings.

A neighbour was fined for putting out his rubbish a day early, why, was it fly tipping? Not really as the council knew what the intention was!

Councils have been given authority to look into our Bank Accounts.

We have all our Internet and telephone calls monitored

Helicopter cameras are powerful enough that they can see into peoples homes.

Also the whole world is in Debt, well who do we actually owe this money too? It is not a International Bank owned by any Gov, but privately owned, what would happen if the whole world just defaulted on their debts, how would this Bank bring it in?

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 10:16

Watch out, you will have the thought police knocking on your door.

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 10:17

I agree what is happening to the UK?



I heard of a man a couple of years ago when he left home to go to work he put a piece of paper from his pocket into a public bin, he was fined for putting household rubbish in a public bin what is it coming to, if he had thrown it on the floor he would have been fined for littering.



I am glad I no longer live in the UK

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 10:26

What about the cameras



http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Parents-Outraged-After-CCTV-Cameras-Installed-In-Toilets-At-Grace-Academy-Birmingham/Article/201003215570225?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15570225_Parents_Outraged_After_CCTV_Cameras_Installed_In_Toilets_At_Grace_Academy%2C_Birmingham

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 10:52

Could we see a copy of this memo please?

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 11:33

Gosh



Why and what reason do I have to lie? none at all!!!



Previous to this memo a member of staff was dismissed, the word on the floor was that manegement did not like his comments during a meeting.....no one actually knows for sure apart from this guy being a little outspoken. He was approached without warning given mins to collect his belongings and marched off the premises...

Staff are a little worried, do you think anyone have would be that daft as to bring out the memo??

The contracts are for the MOD, all bound by the secrecy act stuff.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 11:43

When you vote you are supposed to keep it to yourself anyway,so how would your employers know,just a thought,

Paul.

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 12:39

Newlad

They wouldn't, but what a way to influence your vote. My better half whom does not usually react to much was incensed that the company was telling them how to think.



My point of this thread is not about our personal experience that was just one example of how we are being controlled, to scared to speak out in case of repercussions. Even to the smallest most preposterous examples like how we are controlled to how much rubbish we put in our bins what we surf on the net.....well I am worried!!!

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 13:18

Bit like in 2006, the company I worked for was telling everyone who to support for the world cup.

Apparantly Muslim workers complained and the instruction was withdrawn.

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 13:19

Why do you think we are all over here? Its not perfect but i would never dream of going back to the uk. I have not been there for 7 years the thought of that place makes me feel ill. I was scared to go out at night alone and never went to the atm alone. Thank god for TRNC. Or that should be thank Allah.

RickF64


Joined: 07/01/2009
Posts: 173

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 13:30

Big brother is in residence already. George Orwell did try to warn us.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 23:54

The UK was finished the day the Iron Lady went, It has been downhill all the way since, Do you remember Blairs theme song Things Can Only Get Better,



What a Joke!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2010 23:59

well lee i can only hope gordons is not we are the champions xx

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 00:15

Oh c'mon there is only one party to vote for....the Green party...at least you know that they are going to talk crap before you vote!!!

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 00:52

Message 12 - it may be that you will have to go private for your psychiatric treatment in the near future !!

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 01:47

I am stunned! "The UK was finished the day the Iron Lady went". Somebody needs to read up on their political history. JohhnyLee have you studied the Retail Price Indexing as a comparison between the 2 governments before you made such a radical statement? What about the underlying rate of inflation and the value of the £ on international trading markets throughout the second period of her disastrous tenure (Falklands being the saviour of Maggie). You cannot even begin to compare the two without being laughed at. If you want to make a sensible political argument, please try and make it factual and not based on a party associated bias.

I have to confess I do hold a First Class Honours Degree in Political History. That being the case you are to me in this exchange, a lightweight. That's not ment as an insult just fact.

wearytravellers



Joined: 27/04/2007
Posts: 250

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 02:30

I walked down the street in Glasgow recently and stopped a gentleman and asked politely "where is the nearest Toilet" anywhere.....the whole place is a Toilet !!!!....Weegies you just have to love their humour..eh!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 08:02

Gillken,



"Previous to this memo a member of staff was dismissed, the word on the floor was that manegement did not like his comments during a meeting.....no one actually knows for sure apart from this guy being a little outspoken. He was approached without warning given mins to collect his belongings and marched off the premises... "



I guessing there is an outsourcing contract company involved here... someone like Arthur Andersen, SEMA, EDS the list is endless... one of their early day activities is identifying those who are going to prove to be a thorn in their sides.



This is a tactic I've observed over the last 15 to 20 years...



These leeches wheedle their way into your erstwhile happy and safe work place and expand like a computer virus until there are not enough workstations left for your own staff... It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that any profits there were in the business end up going to them in the future. You see if I'm wrong...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 09:11

The Uk is getting worse by the minute. Just wait until tomorrow and see if we have a hung parliament - then it's time to pack your bags.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 10:17

it is called 'control the masses' the labour party have done well at this during the past (almost) 20 years they have been in control.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 10:45

Unfortunately in this day and age the teaching of history is not immune from propaganda. The only certain way to have a balanced view of the "Thatcher Years" is to have personally experienced what preceded it and what has followed.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 10:56

The comments that summarise to me the attitudes of the Tories to the sick, elderly and less well-off in our society are the ones where we were told if we were cold then tough, we should wear a wooly hat and go to bed to keep warm, or if we could not afford the heating bill then tough, just heat one room or wear extra clothes indoors.



I had elderly neighbours who in the early 1980's died from hypothermia because they were too frightened to put the heating on because of the cost.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 10:56

"let the battle begin...."

deputydawg


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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 13:42

Dear Dusterbruce, sadly we all have memories of uncaring and incompetent governments of all political shades. I witnessed young soldiers being used as clay pidgeons in Northern Ireland and being shot dead through soft skinned vehicles when armour could have been available. This whilst their families in UK and Germany were going without food as they could not afford the quartering charges even when on rent rebate. It took a subsequent Tory government to rectify this and restore pay parity with civilian life. By this time the RAF had aircraft but most pilots had already been driven back into civilian life. This is being repeated again by deployments in Eastern countries. If the UK cannot afford a war then government should say so and disengage, not lie about giving unqualified support. Perhaps Steven Day in the Cyprus Times has it right when he says that it is only possible to vote for what you percieve to be the least corrupt and incompetent party?

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 13:48

The UK NHS getting worse as well not only are they going to cut back on Nursing staff in hospitals but my friend returned to work this week after being on sick leave. They have changed the style of uniform (again) when she went to the sewing room to collect her new kit she was told she would have to pay £4 per pair of trousers to get the legs taken up as they were too long!!!!

At this rate the nurses will have to pay to work in the hospitals!



Chris

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 17:34

deputydawg



I think that the Tories voted to join the war in eastern countries as well, but lets face it, we are waging war in these countries because we were told to do so by George Bush.



I have never voted for Labour in my life. All I am saying is that having had to give up working through ill health, I feel that I am looked after pretty well under the present administration. Memory tells me that people in my position were not quite as well looked after under the government that was voted out in 1997. My father was one of them.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 17:42

Shower of moaning minnies...Chris what happened to stockings and the suspenders, blooming nurse's they should still were them.....

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 17:51

wear them (TYPO)

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 17:52

I stopped voting years ago, could never see the point, it always ended with the same policies just different faces............. anyway it is the Civil Service whom really run the Country, they don't change their staff according to whom is in Government. I doubt they will clear their desks and sit with arms folded waiting for new instructions from a new Government.

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 18:14

Don't know if it has any bearing on this thread, but brilliant



http://thefinalredoubt.blogspot.com/2010/03/cwmbran-10-quiet-revolution.html

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 18:14

Message 15, well yes I probably will due to the fact that eeven though I have paid hundreds of thousands of ££s into the Uk system in the last few years, I spend more than 3 mnths out of the UK.



So yes thats a good point. And yes I must need psychiatric treatment to have tried to continue to run a company with a labour goverment in power.



Message 16. I do not proffess to be apolitical expert, All I know is the Halcyon days of the Thatcher years, when if you where prepared to have ago on your own you got rewarded,



I also along with many people have the greatest respect for this ladys tough attitude.



Yes I am sure I am a lightweight compared to you , I would find it very boring to spend my life studying politics



I have to also confess I have a degree in modesty, suggest you try alittle bit.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 19:49

Dear Dusterbruce I agree that Blair conned many into supporting a war but the Tories have not been tested as to whether or not they would have better supported the troops though they did for once act like an opposition should and protest at the lack of support. I am not trying to take issue with you on anything because we are both basing our views on how we and families have been treated by governments in our different paths in life. We can only relate our experiences. That is why I posted message 21 as I thought that JohhnyLee should be supported when he did no more than make a comment from his experiences and was called a lightweight by a relative youngster with a history degree whose knowledge of that era did not come from personal experience. Seems that at message 31 JohhnyLee has introduced him to the University of life !

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 19:52

Message 31 - well said.

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 21:05

JohhnyLee,

I don't want to deride your opinion, each to their own. This being the epitome of democracy, however please let me draw to your attention your synopsis.



" Halcyon days of the Thatcher years" "This lady's tough attitude"



Which is it to be?



Incidentally you have a sharp and amusing whit. "I have to also confess I have a degree in modesty, suggest you try a little bit"







However study a word of my advice free of charge to you.

"I would find it very boring to spend my life studying politics" What have we been engaged with? Answer

A conversation on Political History. Yours from a neanderthal prospective and mine from 4 years study. Only one winner.





Deputydawg



JohhnyLee has introduced him to the University of life ! Him?

Smity



Joined: 14/09/2009
Posts: 826

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 21:12

If this is true ( not saying it isnt) then how desperate must labour be to win votes

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 22:14

I'll make bet here and now, if Labour win the election they will bring in the IMF to help with the UK national debt, that will mean our AAA credit rating will go out of the window, and the UK will make Greece look a rich country, as S&P will withdraw our AAA credit score.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 22:39

Message 34



You are obviously a highly educated person - I know this because you told us. I believe you also drew our attention to the fact that you had to try more than once to join this forum, but felt the fact that you are '29 and single' probably helped? I'm still thinking about that one.



I understand that this may be perceived as 'nit picking' but could I draw your attention to your spelling of the word 'wit'? Not a difficult word to spell, I wouldn't have thought?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 22:51

Earlier, My mate called me "Emotionally Unstable"



I didn't know weather to laugh or cry.    

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 23:06

Sal1262 You are a little deep for me sorry I am just one of those simple people, May be you could please use your Education to help us get some funds for Ismail's new arm. Because this to me is more important to me and many other people than Politics and education. Thank You

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 23:25

And so the world moves on for the little people, insignificant belligerent but fruitful. The ego, unlike the id, functions according to the reality principle.



Take care JohhnyLee

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
06/05/2010 23:31

Jeannie,



Glorious Sixty Year Olds .

We are getting older, an undeniable fact! We are getting slower and more lethargic, another undeniable fact! We are happy to move house - now that is where the facts begin to get muddled up, that is where we are not too sure about what is happening and whether it is the correct decision to make.



Take care.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
07/05/2010 01:27

Message 41 - Sal1262



I have said on here before and for your benefit I will say it again - "I am NOT 60 years old". It would not matter one iota if I were, but I am not. Perhaps, in common with the other poster who questioned it, you are unable to work it out? No matter. For your information, I am neither lethargic nor slow. That apart, your pathetic postings (Nos. 40 and 41) make no sense. I wonder, for the benefit of us who are not as 'well educated' as your goodself, would you be so kind as to elucidate? For example, where does the 'moving house and facts becoming muddled' come into it? Please bear with us old, befuddled, neanderthal beings.



PS Whilst you're at it, could you also explain your earlier posting about how being 29 and single got you onto the forum? I suspect you have been on here before, more than once, in other guises, but, this could be, for me, the early onset of dementia and, if you are who I think you are, you will know exactly what I am saying.