A more robust approach to reunification negotiations ?

Marilyn


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Message Posted:
07/05/2010 23:17

Everyone seems to agree that the nature of talks between the new President and the Greek Cypriots will change. But Leslie Hardy suggests a much more aggressive approach. In my opinion, his suggestions are likely to cause more damage than good.

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Marilyn


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Message Posted:
07/05/2010 23:20

Whoops

The article is at

http://www.wellestates.com/cyprus_reunification.htm

BIllie Boo


Joined: 21/09/2008
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
08/05/2010 09:27

Hi Marilyn

Whats the problem ?

Giving in to the Greek CYpriots has not achieved anything, so why not try a new approach ?

Marilyn


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Posts: 52

Message Posted:
09/05/2010 08:30

Yes, I agree. But surely you dont think that getting the Turkish army involved is a goog idea ?

frontalman



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Message Posted:
09/05/2010 09:28

I think this article must be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Won't do much to maintain the good regard internationally the TC cause has gained over the past few years if these daft suggestions were to be put in place.

Marilyn


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Posts: 52

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 21:41

Hi Frontalman

I agree that the suggestions are daft, but they are also dangerous. However, Leslie hardy appears to be well informed and I understand moves in Turkish CYpriot circles. So I think that some of the things suggested may be really being considered - and that is scary

rowlo



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Message Posted:
21/05/2010 00:32

it was really dangerous before the turkish army intervened , in fact if they had,nt intervened ,their would be no turks left , the greeks would have murdered them all , so in retrospect its as safe as its gonna be , nothings gonna change , turkish cypriots along with the turkish army will be around for a long time yet , in case you had,nt noticed the island has been really peaceful since the liberation , 35yrs and counting .

Marilyn


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Posts: 52

Message Posted:
21/05/2010 22:22

Hi Rowlo

Yes, things are peaceful, thanks to the intervention of the Turkish Army. But Mr Hardy does not seem content with things as they are, he wants to use the presence of the Turkish Army to intimidate the Greek Cypriots.

BIllie Boo


Joined: 21/09/2008
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
22/05/2010 08:27

Yea, the place is peaceful, but so too is the average graveyard.

The status quo, and I dont mean the geriatric pop group, cannot last for ever. The TRNC is broke, and if it werent for handouts from Turkey, it woulld sink into the sea.

Mr Hardy is simply stating what most Turkish Cypriots think - that despite their vote in favor of the Annan Plan, that nothing has improved.

So, it is a good idea to think about rattling the Greeks cage

Marilyn


Joined: 29/08/2008
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
25/05/2010 21:20

Billie, there are many people, including your good self, who are perhaps not fully aware of the plight of Turkish Cypriots prior to 1974. They were forced into enclaves and were under constant threat of violent intimidation.

The present state of peaceful, but acrimonous, co-existence, separated by the UN monitored green line is a dramatic improvement. To suggest that a more aggressive, even bellicose posture towards the Greek Cypriots shows a lack of historical perspective.

Luv Marilyn

BIllie Boo


Joined: 21/09/2008
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
26/05/2010 22:58

Talat and Christofias spoke for months without any sign of progress. The body language was always tense. neither side wanted to be called the 'bad boy' who broke off negotiations.

The new TRNC President has the freedom to adopt a more agressive style, so lets give it a go !

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
26/05/2010 23:01

Perhaps the TRNC President should be looking at the injustices being perpetrated in his own country i.e the threat by Akfinans Bank to have anyone daring to critisise it criminally prosecuted, which risks the TRNC being compared with Zimbawe.

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
26/05/2010 23:59

msg8 , i may be missing something here ,let me try my best to explain , there was no intention by turkey , to use theyre army to intimidate anyone , the greeks were murdering tcs and getting away with it ? turkish army moved in to protect theyre people , greek murderers run away calling wolf , rest of the world believes greeks , turks dont trust greeks , and why should they , greeks would have got away with genocide if the turkish army had not liberated the island , and by the way the whole world stopped to see what would happen ,now turkey is the bad boy , enosis never worked for them but they want the rest of the world to feel sorry for them ? long live kktc.

BIllie Boo


Joined: 21/09/2008
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
30/05/2010 10:35

amen to that Rowlo

You are right - without the intervention of the Turkish Army in 1974, and their continued presence, there would not be a TRNC. The Greeks hate the presence of Turkish troops in North Cyprus and constantly call for their removal. I dread to think what would happen if the Turkish army left North CYprus and masses of Greek CYpriots were allowed to return to the Karpaz and the Guzelyurt area, as proposed by the Annan Plan.