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erictheviking


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Sorry to be so critical. But Efendi is now just an average place to eat. Dont get me wrong about the food that we were served was good but nothing what it used to be like. The portions are still good size.



The service was good all the staff courteous and efficient. However I really dont think it was fusion food. Below is a link to a restaurants website that serves fusion food



http://www.themodernpantry.co.uk/our-cafe-dining.php



Please feel free to shoot me down if you think I am talking out of place



Sal1262



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Have you ever considered it just might have been an average meal? Have you considered that the mood you where in that evening may have contributed to the ambiance and therefore the dinning experience? This is a strange first post. It also fails to make sense. Did you express yourself at the restaurant or did you just slide out and come on here to be brave about it.



Effendi's, myself never been but it is on my list of places to visit based on the good write ups it has received here and on other web sites. So there!! Your exercise failed , if that was what this is.



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Still tops in my books Eric & haven't had what I'd call an 'average' meal there yet.



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The Modern Pantry in London? don't think you can compare eating in the UK with eating in NC. Bang bang you are shot.



erictheviking


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@Sal1262



My point is that food that was available wasn't what I would call fusion food. Hence the link that I posted which is a restaurant that does serve fusion food in my book. But then everybody has a different book.



I know it me be strange first post, but hey we have to all start somewhere dont we.



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eric what night did you eat here and date and what did you have to eat



twinky


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I'm with you sal1262



kenny



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eric

'' portions good'', '' the service was good'',''courteous and efficient staff'', ''food good''

for gods sake man what do you want, the Ritz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Ditto Jimmy message 3.



waddo


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OK, I will ask - what is "Fusion" food then? Is it the sort of food that needs to be thrown the the micro wave and submitted to "Nuclear Fusion" because it is straight out of a cardboard box or the freezer?



Somehow the word "Fusion" has not got that feel good fresh food taste to it. Yes I did Google it and came up with - Fusion cuisine combines elements of various culinary traditions while not fitting specifically into any - so I guess that Fish & Chips with an egg covered in lemon sauce would fit into the term.



Surely if you go to Effendi's, the mere name of which must conjour up thoughts of Turkey, you would expect to find traditional Turkish fare which would not fit into the term Fusion anyway. Not complaining about the post just interested as to why people come here to try the food they have enjoyed before and then have a go because it is not as they remember it. Oh for a good bowl of Me Hoon like I used to enjoy in 1965 in Borneo!!!! Or were Mars bars bigger then???



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Fusion cuisine is general term for the combination of various forms of cookery, and the concept can take several forms.



One approach is regional fusion that combines the cuisine of a region or sub-region into a single eating experience. Of this sort, Asian fusion restaurants have become popular in many parts of the United States, often featuring Indian, East Asian, and South-East Asian dishes alongside one another and offering dishes that are inspired combinations of such cuisines.



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In Australia, due to the increasing influx of migrants, fusion cuisine is being reinvented and is becoming increasingly the norm at numerous cafes and restaurants; with Sydney now being considered as one of the best cities in the world with regard to the quality and creativity of Asian-fusion restaurants[citation needed].



Another incarnation of fusion cuisine is a more eclectic approach, featuring original dishes using varieties of ingredients from various cuisines and regions and combining them. Such a restaurant might feature a wide variety of dishes inspired by a combination of various regional cuisines with new ideas.



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A third approach uses foods with a form based on one cuisine, but prepared using ingredients and flavors inherent to another cuisine or cuisines. For instance, pizza made with cheddar and pepper jack cheese, salsa, refried beans and other common taco ingredients is often marketed as "Taco Pizza" or a similar concept[citation needed], and is a fusion of Italian-American (pizza) and Mexican-American cuisines. Similar approaches have been used for fusion-sushi, such as rolling maki with different types of rice and ingredients, e.g. curry and basmati rice, cheese and salsa sauce with Spanish rice, or spiced ground lamb and capers rolled with Greek-style rice and grape leaves (resembling inside-out dolmades).



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Since fusion cuisine is a general term, it is legitimately applied to either sort of restaurant. While many diners feature dishes from Greek, Italian, and sometimes Asian cuisines side-by-side, these restaurants are generally not considered fusion as they fail to combine any elements of the cooking styles and also have no over-arching fusion or eclectic theme



Sal1262



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Bill,



bin busy ont tinternet. ast thar bin ogoling?



No1Doyen


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Sal. Er, I think the answer is yes. Am I right? )



kenny



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No 1

100%



Sal1262



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yes you are but only down one side



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kenny... ) ) )



waddo


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Thanks! But with a very simplistic outlook on life I must ask the question:



If you want "Fusion" food then why not just go to a "Fusion Reseraunt"? Why go to a place that is obviously Greek, Spanish, Turkish, Russian, American, etc, etc, etc and then say - Not really a "Fusion" food place?



Bit like going to Burger King and then saying the service was good but their range of Petrol was not as good as it used to be at Esso Filling Stations!!!



Ok, back in my box - have a great weekend guys & gals.



No1Doyen


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You too Waddo...



MartinM


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I had Fusion in Efendi's. Con fusion ? No. Angus beef, South African wine, Turkish cake and Euro tip



magolina


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not as good as it used to be but nothing to complain about but just very mediocre and no desserts

maybe they need to try a bit harder so much competition nowdays.



how188


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Ate at Efindi last night, I would rate less than average with poor selection of food that is a bit old fashioned with its use of cream sauces and high in fat content. Not much good if you are a white meat eater, 1 choice and no vegitarian options. Service was not up to much either with Andy, the owner, spending most of his time with his entertainers.

Have used many times before over the last 8 years. Pity it seems to have lost its way.



gardenmaker


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some friends of mine went to the paella night last week ate half and legged it



Panchocat


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how188 we ate there on Thursday night and had a brilliant evening.



Great food, beautiful surroundings, fantastic service and wonderful entertainment. Tony Jones is just brilliant!!



Andy was with the entertainers for part of the time but he was in evidence around the restaurant too.



Personal choice again but Efendi is one of our favourite restaurants.



Did you speak to Andy about your concerns?



Isabella


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Intereting that the person who first started this thread has not returned to the thread to answer the question asked in message 6.



It is always very difficult on a forum like this to know whether there is any other more sinister reason why people make such comments.



If I was running a forum I would not allow such threads to be started.



I have had a a very nice meal there on recommendation - but equally someone may have a different experience and if so they would not return for another meal - we would. What suits one may not suit another.



yorkshireve


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its one of the best in trnc and the staff are fantastic. i was impressed by one of the pictures hanging on the wall and the owner got it copied and framed for me. never had a bad meal there they have a small menu so you know everything is fresh when friends come out first stop efendi



how188


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No he did not come over but the lady behind the bar did, listened to our concerns, apologised and gave us the bill for half price. I had sent mine back, they had then tried to charge us! Sadly will not be returning or recommending any more. A pity.



how188


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i agree, it would be also very much better if these treads could be search to be able to get a balanced view of a place.



I guess some venues are in multiple threads. As a visitor it is easy to get a unrepresentative view of a place depending on how you input the search.



I would also comment that many of the posts are way out of date.



By the way post six is Andy from efendi i think??



efendioliver



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from andy to how 188 i did come over and checked the meal which i tested in the kitchen and found nothing wrong with it

so sorry you didnt enjoy but never mind you dont have to come again andy



lancashirelad


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Well theres a message loud and clear!

If you don't like your meal at Efendis then dont bother complaining - just DONT GO BACK

Everybody got that?



Post edited for offensive remark



twinky


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who are you too call him a twat. On a forum of all places, why don't you walk round to efendi and try calling that to his face.



I think it is outrageous, that the forum admin allow such post



lancashirelad


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twinky

it is my considered opinion that the man has no concept of customer service

He did not meet the customer face-to-face, and discuss how the meal had failed to meet the customers expectations

he sneaked into the kitchen, found it to his taste and pronounced nothing wrong with it

is it sensible to then come on a public forum and tell the customer *never mind you dont have to come again andy*?

the man should not be allowed within 100 miles of a customer, or a computer

I think that the eighth word of your post describes him perfectly



lancashirelad


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incidentally this subject has now had over 1200 viewings - I wonder how many potential customers that represents that will now never ever visit efendis

if only hed said sorry!



twinky


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Mmmmm....I think you will find the the eighth letter has described you to a tee, Lancashirelad. Considering it not only efendi you seem to have posted the word t@*t about. Who gives you the right to go round calling people names,

Were you there that night at efendi's.



Lambousa Gordon


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Always had super food and excellent service at Effendis - which is why friends (and enemies) and I love going there at any and every opportunity.



Try the steak...



bugsy


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just been to efendis superb food service with a smile and entertainment excellent also andy went to every table to see everybody enjoying the night so if you dont like the place dont go again and leave it for us that do!!!! its not to everybodys taste but the food is fab and andy tries and succeeds with his choice of artists enough said!!!!!



lancashirelad


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bugsy i hope that andy has taken what ive said on board and realised that you cannot just dismiss customer complaints out of hand and publicly tell them that they don\'t have to come back

customer service is not about smiling and being nice to people when everything is going well, and your in a good mood, its about how you handle the situation when everything is going wrong, and youve a splitting headache and the chef is throwing a tantrum

the customer is still more important than any of that

as i say i hope that hes learned a lesson



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yawn....................................................



lancashirelad


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steveafc if its boring you dont have to read it but your keeping it at the top anyway



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Never had a bad meal at Efendi.



lancashirelad


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No1Doyen lets hope nobody else ever does - NOW



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I have eaten at Efendi's more times than I can remember and ALWAYS had a fantastic meal.



I have an allergy to wheat and Andy, without fail, organises/cooks my food and adapts whatever is on the menu (except anything that has pastry on, of course!).



Great food, great atmosphere and great staff. Absolutely love it! In my view, it is a hard act to follow....



Twinks..



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