Cameron....."Labour the party that raises taxes"

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 10:47

Pot & Kettle come to mind, just watch his nose get longer and longer!



Tax concern



The prospect of more tax rises for the middle classes concerns the Daily Mail.



It highlights a planned rise in capital gains tax, a cut in child tax credits for middle earners, and U-turns on inheritance tax and National Insurance.



The paper says even the head of the Tories' own tax policy commission, Lord Forsyth, has warned the prime minister his plans are ill-conceived.



The Daily Express agrees, saying it would be a tragedy if the coalition government was to prioritise tax rises.

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 11:15

So what is your alternative,make a clean sweep and sack 50% of public sector employees.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 11:21

If it moves tax it,this has always been the motto of the tory party,

Paul.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 11:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLSNzEorbI



Strong resemblance,dont you think,

Paul.

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 12:35

The only reason the Tory/LibLab coalition are having to put up taxes is to pay for Labour's imprudence!

They have bust the country, and there are virtually no gold reserves left (sold off in 1998 by GBrown).

Geoff

Perry


Joined: 27/01/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 12:46

The mess left by those idiots is an additional £165 billion per year - year on year which is totally unsustainable

Unfortunatley to now put the mess right we all have to suffer. They have no choice or we become Greece very quickly - no other country will support our debt and interest rates will go through the roof.

It will need to be a painful combination of tax increases for us all to swallow, combined with severe cuts to over inflated public services.

We have to hope they can clear up the mess over a few years to allow a better environment in the future. Be angry, very angry at the recurring incompetance of Labour Governments, as we see history repeat itself time and again, and we the tax payer have to pick up the bill.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 13:02

The words world recession spring to mind,

Paul.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 15:00

I didn't get an increase in my LG pension for 2010/11 because it is based on the retail price index in Sept 2009 as it was -1.4% = no increase. I got £5.80 a month rise in government pension I have paid £2.40 more tax this month leaving me with £3.40, a rise in council tax, water rates and gas and electric £3.40 doesn't go anywhere. Raise the vat for me at least everyone who shops gets to pay it, benefit claiments don't get taxed.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
17/05/2010 15:34

Gordon Brown a complete and utter clown no idea

Come on you blues

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 00:04

Paddywack....ask the tory newspapers that have showed their concern.



Me, so long as I have my health and I can breathe fresh air I do not give a * who is in power. Unlike a lot of you that are taken in by all their lies and cheating....and more stupidly align yourselves with what class you think you are!!!!!!!! Wake up before it is to late.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 00:24

tiggs me darlin wise words xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

LOvegod


Joined: 22/03/2009
Posts: 161

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 10:21

Ha well saıd Tıgs. I used to belong to the Tory party and then I woke up. Just a another bunch of self servıng lıars and cheats. Every tıme I see cameron I reach for the sıck bag.

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 10:43

Whoever won this years election was going to have a hard time of it trying to get the country back into the black. at least with the Con/ Lib Dem alliance there is light at the end of the tunnel, although its a long long tunnel. With Labours policy of borrowing more and more money to spend the country out of recession there would be no lights at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Corbo



Joined: 13/09/2009
Posts: 627

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 10:45

Labours aspirations turned to dust after a decade in power. Snuggling up to the Casino bankers and the wealth gap divide showed their radical stand had long gone. Go Clegg repelling these repressive new laws that are killing off hard won freedoms.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/nick-clegg/7738343/Nick-Clegg-tell-us-the-laws-that-you-want-scrapped.html

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 13:01

Everybody has an opinion on whayts happening back in UK and deservedly so. We paid out taxes some still do and because of Labour they are going to pay more in the next couple of years.

The subject of class should not even enter this debate as Tony Blair went to the Scottish Equivalent of Eton but was so smarmy that people forget. Brown was a decent man who did not have the b*lls to say no when he became PM yet when he was Chancellor he was reputed to be the Iron Chancellor when it came to spending- I too find it all bizarre and shows when in power you loose your principles.

Clegg and Cameron have to be given a chance as at the moment there is no ALTERNATIVE and with either Miliband there never will be!!!

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 13:45

Good old labour









http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/18/civil-servants-labour-spending

plslj


Joined: 02/11/2009
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 14:14

I came from very humble beginnings as my family would be classified today is 'poor'. Passed the 11+ and went to grammar school followed by hard graft and then ended up working in some really big companies. I attended many board meetings and the thing that struck me was the fact that most Directors of these big companies came from the same schools. U.K. Ltd...France Ltd...Germany Ltd. are all run by politicians who are part of an elite, they come out of elite schools and get their top jobs from other ex pupils from the same schools. In the U.K most of the top paid jobs are given to people who were educated at Eton, Harrow, Cambridge, Oxford and a few others. Politicians of each persuasion are the same..firstly they are screened by 'their own' before they're allowed to stand for parliament so 'Joe Bloggs' however good has no chance at all. It's interesting that even the ex-communist states are now run by their own 'elite' so what chance things getting better for us all ..Zilch !!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 21:05

Labour Lib and Tories are,unfortunateley pretty much the same nowadays.People seem to forget the good days under Labour,very short memories indeed,

Paul.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 21:14

Hi Tiggs,



We just gotta pay our debts mate, or we are going to be in the Internationally recognised shite.



Watch my lips.........Confusious he say...Man who earn 99 Riminby and spend 98, happy man.



Man who earn 99 Riminby and spend 100 in velly deep DoDo. OKEY Kokey!



Clameron is man of moment! Give the poor sod a chance. NOT his debt!!! How about PFI debt??..



Nick maybe goody goody...................................Christ I despair.



wynd

Suffolk



Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 222

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 21:48

I seem to recall when thacher was in interest rates went to 15pc which doubled my morgage When major took over does anyone remember black wednesday Lamont chancellor Headlines in the papers last one to leave the coutry turn the lights out tories track record not good same as labour

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 21:51

Steve, message 20.



As Paul said in message 18 - all much of a muchness.



Regards to you both.



Jean

x

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 22:05

Hi Suffolk,



As I recall a short period of time.



What we have been talking about here is spend spend spend. Half of the debt is PFI Off balance sheet.



Yet again this Country is a victim of Labour tax and spend policies. and yet again we have to go cap in hand to our creditors.



Watch my lips....We are bankrupt Yet again...Remember "bushy eyebrows" Healey. Snivelling, grovelling to the IMF,



taking the begging bowl on behalf of this once RICH and proud Nation.



You lefties, should hold your heads in shame!



Dont worry Guys.....there is a core of honest hardworking citizens that know their duty. We will pay our countries debts!!



Where will you be? On some sun sodden beach? Hardly the Dunkirk spirit, is it?



wynyardman

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 23:18

No problem with interest rates at 15% under "Maggie" for most who then had sensible levels of mortgage or borrowing and there were equally high rewards for the prudent who worked hard and saved. Not like the idiot millions now days with things like 125% mortgages and most possessions gained with credit cards all voting for a government who have been just as stupid in their spending. The sad part is the workshy and feckless will be carried through the following years by the elderly who only have left, in the main, limited savings and pensions, due to the sticky fingers of G Brown.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
19/05/2010 23:26

"Maggie" Jesus dont get me going on about her.She bombed our chip shop,

Paul.

Perry


Joined: 27/01/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 00:04

Wyn is oh so right here.

The current estimate (including the liabilities which Brown kept off the balance sheet) is that our debt is approx £2.2 TRILLION !!!!!! That is £86,000 for each and every household - and for what ???? An over inflated public sector with defined benefits pensions. It would be a joke if it wasnt for the poor mugs left to now have to pay the bill (ie us still working in the private sector, on defined contributions pension plans).

At least we have finally get rid of these idiots who have absolutely wrecked our country.

Tax rises and massive spending cuts is the only way to prevent us sliding further into the mire. Just hope Cameron / Clegg can hold it together to save us - they sure have their work cut out.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 00:24

they will be sitting down right now asking each other how much of a wage rise they should get , not to mention expenses ,oh and what colour should we paint no 10 , the mere plebs are paying anyway , lets do lunch ,your expense account or mine , toss you for it ?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 00:34

Howdy Wyn,



Good to see you are still tickling the key board!







I'm off my soap box now, will leave it to the Oxbridge Toffs to take the country back to the days of hope & glory!

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 01:52

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/George-Osborne-Budget-Will-Include-Substantial-Increase-In-Personal-Income-Tax-Allowance/Article/201005315635157?lpos=Politics_Top_Stories_Header_1&lid=ARTICLE_15635157_George_Osborne%3A_Budget_Will_Include_Substantial_Increase_In_Personal_Income_Tax_Allowance



interesting............





makes me smile that the people on here think the last 10 years under labour have been a success. Clueless just about sums these people up. You can't spend what you haven't got year in year out. All labour have done ( and it's what they always do) is spend money they haven't got and leave the debt for the next generation.



I may sound anti Labour but really I'm just anti Government as they all pee in the same pot & we deserve what we get cos we sit back & take it.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 01:58

Well, I must say, amongst all these postings, Coachie is somewhat conspicious by his absence



Come on Coachie - where are you?



As I've said in the past - I don't necessarily agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death your right to say it.



Jean

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 05:38

Get Real!!!!

How are they going to pay off the massive debt that Labour has got us into.

They cannot sell the gold stocks - Labour have already done that

They have no assets to sell - Labour already done that

Have you any other suggestions other than

Cut costs - as a local authority worker for many years after working most of my life in Private Industry I was appalled at the wastage (Labour Council)

Raise Taxes - When you are in so much debt you have to look at ways of raising money - Taxes are one way of doing this. Look at the costs of electrical goods here. In Tescos you can get an Iron for £4.99. So increasing VAT on none food is a good option. People who want Luxury goods will pay more for them.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 11:16

Msg. 30. At least if VAT is increased everyone pays it not just workers and pensioners, that's fair in my book.

TopTen


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 11:24

Clegg is just Cameron,s puppy. He has no standing party wise with only a handfull of seats, so he sees this as a way to put his profile in the publics gaze even at his own parties demize, because all it shows is that he can be bought and used.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 12:41

Home information packs scrapped as from today, saving sellers at least £500, this was only a tax making exercise anyway.

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 12:55

Message 13

"Light at the end of the tunnel" - I think you will find that it is a train coming the other way.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
20/05/2010 13:13

I don't think it is an oncoming train -I prefer to think that we're at the bend in the tunnel right now so can't see light at either end but as long as we're now heading in the right direction that's the main thing, but only time will tell.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
21/05/2010 03:40

Pensions to be brought in line with earnings again - labour abolished

Tax threshold to be raised to £10k

Unemployed will get benefits cut if they refuse a job

Banks to start lending to small businesses at reasonable rates to create jobs

Police to spend more time on the streets and less behind desks

abolish identity cards - keep passport methods - save costs

Steps taken to ensure couples living apart are not better off than those living together

- and that is just what I can remember

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!!!!!!

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
21/05/2010 09:41

and me ......





HIP's gone (home information packs) - today I think





My mum always said that Labour hates the UK & looking back she was dead right. That would explain the way Labour have done things over the last 12 years cos nothing they ever did made sense to me.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
21/05/2010 17:11

What gets me is if I went for a job interview with 3 candidates and then I got a call to say 'sorry, other bloke did better than you', fair enough. But if I was then told, 'the bloke who came a poor third has been given a newly created job as their deputy', I'd be rather hacked off.

PeeCee


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 133

Message Posted:
21/05/2010 17:59

Hidysmith - don't believe all you read in the press. £10,000 tax threshold - in small print "over time" and could be a long time!



Pensions linked to earnings - when earnings are likely to fall and inflation is creeping onwards and upwards - even faster if VAT is raised to 20%



But those on disability benefit will be heavily assisted to get back to work (no bad thing maybe).



Basically, for me the jury is out. Lets see what happens for real

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
21/05/2010 20:07

Having worked as a book-keeper doing wages for years, I am aware of the tax system and its implications. it will mean that people will have more money in their pay packet. In the current situation it is stated that this is an 'aim/target' that is what I would expect in the current economic climate. We have gone through bad times before - I remember the International Monetary Fund coming in to bail us out (Harold Wilson - I think)

In relation to earnings, the pensions have suffered seriously over the years due to Labour policy of stripping the link and basing it on what they felt we should have and also taxing private pensions. it was an incentive to have a private pension as it was tax free until Labour taxed it. Gordon Brown's governement was quick enough to give themselves a huge pay rise and that did not include their expenses.

basheer



Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 949

Message Posted:
21/05/2010 23:57

best you return the power back to the monachy long live the queen,

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 18:13

Jeannie....I am still here reading the usual drivel from the hard put to Tories,think they had not got to pennies to rub to gether.I reserved my comments for a couple of months to see what Del Boy and Rodney come up with.If it takes them a week to decide if they want to work together that does not bode well for any decisions they may have to make shortly.You all wanted to get rid of Gordon Brown,but how many of you like the current situation.This is not a coalition,more like bodge up so a lot of egos can be satisfied.We did not win the election nor did the Tories or Lib/Dems but it took a combination of two parties to get rid of him, so that says to me that a lot of people in Britain still do not trust the Tories past track record and Still say that Cameron will not see out his first full termj in offfice.Let us wait and see.......

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 18:27

Coachie, i think you will find that the Conservative party did actually win the election, the fact that they did not have an overall majority is something else.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 18:56

Hello my darling coachie, long time no argue!!



Of course the Conservatives won, they had 2mil more votes than the Labour!!



If you or any one think that who ever got in would find a easy ride then you are living in cuckoo land!... just like that lump of blubber ( Brown) who kept spending and spending like a child thats never been corrected for having his own way!! Brown started chucking money at every thing these last couple of years, he has been grossly, seriously incomeitent with the countrys money! We are all aware that many taxes will have to go up because of his incompetence! Crikey this will be one hell of a task for who ever is in the driving seat.

Everey one in the country, expecially the 'something for nothing brigade' will need to start to think of what we can give NOT what we can take..... Which the labourites have always been good at... wanting something for nothing.... Or they want what others have got without working for it.....



missed you coachie x

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 19:15

DC....please do not resort to calling Lord Gordon Brown "Lump of Blubber" I'm sure you would not like to be called this or a similar name. Also seeing that he does not use C44 he can not defend himself



On the subject of TAXES.....it was going to look bad with David Cameron giving his Tory toffs a cut in Inheritance Tax of up to £1 million when the country was in such a state....Can anyone answer me....why was he still advocating this up to the time of the ballot count ?????? please no blue rinse answer like...."Well the economy was in such a state he could not afford to do it")

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 20:31

the reason for this is that house prices in the UK have risen so much that many many working people now have houses/properties/estates which would be over £250,000 and would therefore ALL come into Heritage Tax - not just the rich ones. Even in the North East of England which has the lowest priced houses, most of them, with the estate, would be over that amount. To raise them would mean that working people will not come into the inheritance tax band.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 21:10

What a laugh Tiggy when you insult Cameron by calling him a 'toff'...... how do you define a toff? someone with principles? If blubber Brown should not like to be called this, he perhaps shouldnt have blubbered on so much to us all.....



Tiggy do you not realise that a heck of a lot of ordinary folk now go into this bracket? Or do you live in NC and this wont apply to you personally.... Again the selfish society, so long as Im all right damb the rest..

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 22:59

Oh I forgot to mention Tiggy, Blubber Brown has this nick name after calling one of his voters a bigot behind her back, and he was caught out!!! So dont take the moral high ground on his behalf because it wont wash on me. In fact I could call that man and his croanies a damb sight worse....

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/05/2010 23:25

Bring back Maggie!

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
25/05/2010 00:05

Too right, at least she looked after the country and not all the yobs like labour... she always put the country first! Put the country first and you put the real people first... Not the scroungers.

Labour squander money that isnt there's. Maggie actually got us money from the EU, and between them, Blaire and Brown gave it back!! 8 billion a year she raised for us and those idiots gave it back for nothing in return....

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
26/05/2010 18:46

Mr Redwood has written to Treasury Minister David Gauke suggesting an alternative way of raising the cash.



The ex-cabinet minister has led Tory criticism of the coalition's tax plans.



PM David Cameron and deputy Nick Clegg agreed to increase capital gains tax to help pay for the Lib Dem pledge of taking the poorest out income tax.



Short-term gains on non-business assets, such as shares and second homes, could face tax rates up from 18% to 40% or 50% in next month's budget

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
26/05/2010 18:55

Diz,



blubber....now yobs!....what could be worse than that ?



get off your soap box, and take it easy like me.



Do you think the hunting ban should be lifted ?

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
26/05/2010 20:35

Tiggy Im not on my soap box, leaving that to you! As you were the one critizing my opinion on Blobby Brown, your retaliation was to call Cam a Toff! So what do you mean by a Toff? Or are you the only one allowed to caricaturise on here?



On the hunting ban Tiggy, I dont really care one way or another, they can do what they like regarding this issue....

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
26/05/2010 22:17

tiggy

you stated:

Short-term gains on non-business assets, such as shares and second homes, could face tax rates up from 18% to 40% or 50% in next month's budget

So this will be only the toff's then who will suffer eh?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 14:51

Diz....I did not call Cameron a Toff....read.......... "David Cameron giving HIS Tory toffs"..... unlike you I would not belittle the CO leader of our nation. No wonder the country is going down the drain with such bad manners.



Glad to see you care about Animals. The green welly, 4x4 brigade will be stamping ther feet soon. Tally Hoooooooo.



Hildz........I did not state it....I took it off the BBC Website to show what Mr Redwood thought of his own party....with a one week old government they can not agrees. I will leave you to answer the question in your unbiased way!



Boy....those blue rinse brigade....

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 15:05

Tiggy if you think you are not rude, then it is no wonder the country has gone down the drain!!!....



Blue rinse brigade, toff, greenwelly 4x4, tally Hoooo, what are you on boyo?



Redwood for your information has always been 'potty', he is another who never could make it in the govn, so he has always been ready to put the boot in.....



Think I could call Blobby Brown a darn sight more than that... In fact I would call him the bigot, as he did on a

live air about the elderly lady who had asked just normal questions, so dont preach to me about bad manners when that ignoramious man and his party never ever had any.....

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 15:15

Actually, no, he didn't. He made the remark to one of the other passengers in the car he was travelling in, not realising his microphone was still on.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:05

Brown had been talking to Mrs Duffy, a life long Labour supporter, when Brown had finished his public meeting, he got into his car not turning off his mic which was still on re the TV crews. Brown after his 'Guff' asked the crew not to broadcast it!! Brown said 'they' would use it, .... they did.... hence the broadcast on national TV and world wide....

swannee7


Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:24

Get the feeling this particular topic has been thrashed to bits but hasn't actually got anywhere...... sorry folks.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:28

swannee7 - hence the old saying "Never argue about politics or religion"

swannee7


Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:30

Jeannie - WERE they arguing ??? Enough already!

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:35

Not arging, just different points of view......



Tiggy has his thoughts, I have mine, so be it......



Now religion....... well, thats when wars really start!!.......

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:38

A little taxing....maybe!



You can always look at other topics swannee7





Diz, no apology, As I did not call Cameron a Toff.... then? Boyo?...are you Welsh? Plyad Cymru?



Fair play, brown get caught with his pants down....Wonder what Cameron thinks when a old hag starts to put questions to him and does not give you the curtosy to reply without interupting.....yak yak yak yak!

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:38

The point I was trying to make was that it doesn't matter how long you discuss politics or religion, there will always be differing viewpoints.



swannee - I was basically agreeing with your point that the subject has been thrashed to bits and got nowhere.



I did not mean it literally which is why I put the smileys at the end.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 16:41

Tiggy you are getting muddled up with Mr Ashdown now, he was the one caught with his pants down....



Blobby just carried on waffling and got caught out.....

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 17:43

Muddled is it...."Paddy Pants down"......you are going off subject now!



I never argue....just debate....life is tooo short. I make allowances forthe Diz & Hildz....bless em. .

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
27/05/2010 18:15

Aaaaah thanks sooo much, you are to kind xx



Of subject, well soon get back on to that...



Cameron and Clegg will need to put up taxes, there is no getting away from that.. But they are going to harden up what they give to. Harden up on job seekers allowance, and many other give away to wasters.



The quango's that were set up by Labour, all being cut back....