Unwin Estate Agents New Build Villas in Alsancak

neil27


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 51


Message Posted:
16/07/2008 13:41

Hi, I am thinking of buying one of these villas. Does anyone know anything about Unwin's -reliability, value for money etc? Does anyone know how easy it is to let out villas in the summer/winter?

spook


Joined: 23/01/2008
Posts: 150


Message Posted:
16/07/2008 13:59

If your buying as an investment to let out, dont bother, there are far to many houses already standing empty that people cant let

More important than Unwins performance - who is the builder?

If you trawl back through the various posting you will see that it is paramount that you use a builder who is well established and has a proven track record,

if you can advise which builder i am sure members will be able to give you a better opinion of your proposals

Good luck

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 487


Message Posted:
16/07/2008 16:41

where are they?

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 51


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 08:32

Is the builder Kofali by any chance?

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 933


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 12:32

spook has it right.



There are so many properties here now for rent and no tourists the only people likely to use is you. So think very, very carefully as to why you are buying.



Whatever you do, do not trust anything an estate agent tells you. I read an appropriate comment earlier, they come lower down the list than lawyers and they are diabolical.

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 199


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 12:43

We bought with Unwins in Alsancak & we have nothing but praise for them. The sent photographs & updated us monthly.

P of P & J

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 853


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 12:49

Do not send money to the estate agent and make sure you use an independent advocate, not one recommended by the builder or estate agent. Seek recommendations from people already living in houses built by your builder.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 1143


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 12:49

bootneck where are you from??



jock

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 376


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 15:48

Please remember that UNWINS are NOT the BUILDERS. They just sell them on behalf on a builder.



Your contract will be with the builder, NOT Unwins.



Check out the BUILDERS independantly of what Unwins, or other TRADES or ESTATE AGENTS tell you. Find examples of where they have built before and ask the people living there if they are happy with the builder. They are your best guarantee that things will work for you.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 1657


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 17:02

Also try an establish that they have not spread themselves too thinly.. ask the builder about his other sites that you might be interested in, visit them and then judge for yourself whether he is going to finish them all, what the take-up rate is like and if there is current work in progress in all of them... if not don't touch them because your money will be going to finish somebody else's half built house BEFORE yours....



Better still buy a ready built one... they will try and tell you that off-plan is cheaper but there are so many extras to add back in that, existing newly built ones are just as cheap (readily available) in the long run and you have the benefit of knowing it already exists!



Make sure either way that the contract includes the builder being responsible for all the costs of mains electricity being connected and mains water.....



When you find an Advocate/Lawyer, ask here again to see if he or she can be relied upon to do a good job... the British High Commission will supply a list of ones they don't have negative feedback about but it's not a big list..

bigears


Joined: 14/03/2008
Posts: 49


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 19:19

If you look you will find that as yet Unwins have not registered with the Estate agents registry. This was brought in earlier this year. As a few others have not either!!!! Sue

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 376


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 22:07

Bigears,

I beg to differ with you. Unwins ARE registered under the name of "Unwin Investments Ltd" and listed as director is "Hayran Beyler" (as she's the Turkish Cypriot side of the business so makes it easier to register) and their number is 144. They have been certified since 16th November 2007, but as with all government departments updated lists are few and far between.

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 51


Message Posted:
22/07/2008 22:27

Hi Jock1

I'm from Edinburgh what about yourself? i must agree with tim cad that nothing is better than doing some homework and finding out the quality of the build

HAGOSHIRIM


Joined: 12/07/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
23/07/2008 05:17

Tim - Unwins.



They are indeed recongnised by the government department of the TRNC , the head of the estate agents union, awarded a 'refund' of peanuts to a family that sent money to Mark & Hayran from a UK bank, as they were , clearly misled . The Wheeler family property complaint number 107 obtained

a refund of £3665 received in January 2008, against a loss of £10k.



Sabra

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 1143


Message Posted:
23/07/2008 06:02

Hi neil, we hail from Auld reekie, pretty sure i met up with you a couple of years ago in nc.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 972


Message Posted:
23/07/2008 09:12

we paid unwins direct. we have had no problems what so ever with them.

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 51


Message Posted:
23/07/2008 19:41

Well jock you have certainly blown my cover how you doing? have you bought since we last met? I must say I need a few clues to your identity! I used to work at unwins but now Donaghy and Beyler since last october, It would be good to catch up again, I am situated at the kyrenia office opposite Astro. pop in for a coffee if possible.

HAGOSHIRIM


Joined: 12/07/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
23/07/2008 23:06

Did Mark Unwin offer refunds to AGA buyers and the rest. ?



Sabra.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 1657


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 07:12

Did Mark Unwin offer refunds to AGA buyers and the rest. ?



Why would he... their contracts are with no one other than AGA..

markH


Joined: 04/06/2008
Posts: 16


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 09:19

we have had a few problems with our villa,Unwins have not wanted to know,

they are aware of the problems and are still selling properties they push and shove the blame i would never use them again!!!!be aware!!!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 1657


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 09:23

Why would you expect the Estate Agents to want to know about your problems? Have you paid them a fee? I don't think so... the builder will have, so they are on his side...

BOJOY


Joined: 13/09/2007
Posts: 27


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 09:42

Hi Bootneck,

you probably wont remember me, but when you were at Unwins you were extremely helpful and as a result we purchased at Marina Park.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 1143


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 11:32

Hi bootneck i did not blow your cover you did(lol)

Yes we bought a bungalow in Karaoglanoglu, the house is ready but tying the loose end,s here is a nightmare . The lawyers are dragging their heels our intentions are to move over next month. Look forward to meeting up with you for a effes, will drop in and see you some time shortly.

cheers jock

coolkid


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 28


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 12:24

thought they were ok to start with but not now see my new forum should be ready next month not even had new contract only bits by email. thay have washed their hands (their own words) on this with nesa and will not give me other purchasers details. I have been a bit laid back on this but have more time to spend on it .Put it this way if things dont start to move i will be paying for flights for some visitors and they wont be playing happy families

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 437


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 15:15

We bought through Unwins they tried to help, but fell out with the builder they say speak to the builder,now the builder just keeps fobbing us off, I would not use them again.

stevie-d

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 1143


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 16:33

who is your builder stevie-d.

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 437


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 16:56

CA-SA Construction, ( Cafer&Sait )

stevie-d

spook


Joined: 23/01/2008
Posts: 150


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 17:37

stevie-d

You have my sympathies,bought of CA-SA in 2003 in Karsiyaka,thought that they had fallen out and were suing each other,there is a long list of buyers waiting to get finished ie pools/air con/electric/water/roads the list is endless,dont hold your breath if you waiting for jobs to get finished.

Have had to employ an architect on to date two occasions - pool terrace collapsed - pool leaked like a sieve ,now have further problem with pool water leval has dropped about 800mm,waiting to see when it stops but it looks like i have major problems.

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 437


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 18:10

Hi Brian,

Yes I know what you mean we had to pay an extra £2600 for electricity which we now have still wating for mains water, paid Cafer`s advocate 540YTL in May still wating. Which phase are you on????

stevie-d

HAGOSHIRIM


Joined: 12/07/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 19:13

Unwin is the point of sale. Ask for your money back, Mrs Wheeler did, from all accounts got a fraction back, is she the last or first ???



Sabra.

spook


Joined: 23/01/2008
Posts: 150


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 19:43

stevie-d

In row of 5 villas , turning by the bus stand just past Tolgas, tarmaced road that leads to sea,you have no doubt driven down it numerous times to cut across the field to your villa, your neighbours Brian & Kath keep an eye on it for me , used it on occasions prior to getting electric.



Regards Spook (brian)

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 51


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 19:54

Hi Bojoy thank you for the kind words and I hope the property is coming along and Jock1 great idea an efes is much better than a coffee see you soon or give me a call, please pop in it would be great to put a face to a name.

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 437


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 20:08

Hi Brian,

I know who you are now met your wife a few times, we`ll have to have a beer or 3 next we are both over at the same time we`re going out in Sept what about you???

Rgards

stevie-d

spook


Joined: 23/01/2008
Posts: 150


Message Posted:
24/07/2008 20:20

Hi Steve

Looks like October at present, will look forward to catching up with you on some future occasion.

Regards

Brian