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Luca B

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 14:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 109 in Discussion |
| What a great pity that after such a good start Tango seems to be going down the pan. Apart from the excellent service by the waiters our visit Saturday night will more than likely be the last. I understand that people want to smoke but the owners at Tango have provided adequate facilities for smokers on a terrace linked to the restaurant. So why given that and the fact that the weather in Cyprus is hardly going to be an inconvenience to anyone wanting to smoke did people insist on smoking INSIDE and seemingly with the best wishes of the management. I had noticed this trend starting on a couple of previous visits but then thoswe that did smoke did so covertly. This week it was a free for all and it seemed like half the people in there were lighting up. I'm afraid to say that last night was probably my last visit. Sad because it was a place that me and my friends really enjoyed visiting! |
Panchocat

Joined: 29/11/2009 Posts: 1333
Message Posted: 13/06/2010 14:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 109 in Discussion |
| Oh that's a shame, we were going to give it a go but that has really put me off. Did you complain to the management and if so what was their response? |
Oilman

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 14:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 109 in Discussion |
| I'll go along with that one Luca B. We were there in a fairly large party and when one of the guests asked why people were smoking the waiter told her she could to! I also noticed that the cleintele wasn't quite the same as in previous visits. There celarly was no attempt by anyone to stop people smoking and to me that is not only flaunting the law but also showing a lack of respect for non-smokers. Like you say it's a great shame because it was on club here I felt really hit the mark. |
waddo

Joined: 29/11/2008 Posts: 1966
Message Posted: 13/06/2010 14:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 109 in Discussion |
| As a smoker - I am in complete agreement with you all! Places for smokers and places for non-smokers is more than fair and if T to B is not following the rules then they should be reported and fined for it. Strange words from a smoker but it is my habit and not yours so I try to keep it to myself - bit like secret chocy eating but a lot more dangerous. Get on to the management....... |
Luca B

Joined: 25/09/2008 Posts: 29
Message Posted: 13/06/2010 14:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 109 in Discussion |
| Waddo I believe that your view is the one most reasonable people would hold. If the facilities for smoking were not provided it may have been understandable but the provision for smokers is well equipped and comfortable and my wife as a smoker always goes outside and uses the area. Like you she sees it as her problem and not one to to inflicted on the non-smokers. Unfortunately the several people who did complain to the culprits were met with TC version of the Gallic shrug! |
gotavilla

Joined: 22/04/2009 Posts: 175
Message Posted: 13/06/2010 14:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 109 in Discussion |
| We were surrounded by smokers at Efendi. I know it's outside but it's such a confined area that there was a 'fug' above our heads and I just can't stand it. And I'm an ex-smoker who always considered others - my problem not theirs. |
Luca B

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 14:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 109 in Discussion |
| Ex-smoker myself! |
Sal1262


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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 15:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 109 in Discussion |
| I have e-mailed them with the following. I have read today on the Cyprus44 forum reports that other customers like me are disappointed because smoking is being allowed in the main part of your restaurant and not restricted to the smoking area. Until this practice ceases I regrettably will no longer frequent your establishment. In order to impact the message I would recommend others do the same. Collectively we should get a result. info@tangotobuddha.com |
Luca B

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 15:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 109 in Discussion |
| I have already done that sal1262. |
Chelpet

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 22:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 109 in Discussion |
| As a smoker myself and my wife also, I totally agree that non-smokers should not have to suffer due to our habit, it really is not a problem for me to go without for an hour or two, if I cannot do that then I will go outside away from other people, both my wife and I will not smoke in the presence of non-smokers even on our own premises, as smoke is the residue of our habit, then I would not like to covered in the residue of drinkers. |
dizzycows

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 22:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 109 in Discussion |
| Chelpet, I applaude your good manners and your feelings towards non smokers.. A lot of non smokers get very ill just at the whiff of a cig... Its sad to think that these other smokers couldnt care less if a person with heart trouble or has to use oxygen after inhailing others habit... thankyou for your thoughtfulness... |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 22:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 109 in Discussion |
| OMG ,the world is falling around our ears , and all some people have to worry about is someone having a fag , get a life , if you dont like people smoking , find a smoke free restraunt , or bar , then buy it , theres plenty for sale , and most are closed . |
phylray


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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 23:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 109 in Discussion |
| Rowlo -When there is a smoking ban in the country one should be able to go to any restaurant and eat in a clean atmosphere, not have to look for another one. Those of us who are asthmatic can get very ill. Thank goodness most of you have more caring and responible attitudes. |
johnw307

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 23:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 109 in Discussion |
| Well said Rowlo It would appear the whinging brits have arrived This is not Uk,not EU When in Rome do as the Romans do,most people have moved here to escape do gooders and forced laws instilled on them. If you can't cope with it go back |
Panchocat

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Message Posted: 13/06/2010 23:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 109 in Discussion |
| Rowlo TTB was supposed to be a smoke free restaurant and it's to keep their lives that non-smokers don't smoke; so why should they inhale second hand smoke from people who wish to harm themselves. It is a known fact that over 30% of all known cancers,not just lung cancer, are directly attributable to smoking. As to TTB owners why spend thousands on your investment to see and smell your furnishings being ruined by smoke? |
ozankoys

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Message Posted: 14/06/2010 10:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 109 in Discussion |
| I believe that if a restaurant or bar has a certain type of up-rated aircon then smoking is allowed. You can also smoke in the lobby bar of the Golden Tulip restaurant in Lefkosa. |
Lambousa Gordon

Joined: 03/11/2007 Posts: 1992
Message Posted: 14/06/2010 10:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 109 in Discussion |
| The laws are very clear: If any food is sold whatsoever then smoking is completely banned inside. If there is: a. No food whatsoever; b. No one under 18 ever; c. A suitable air-extraction system; then smoking may be permitted in upto 50% of the public areas. As a bar-owner and, until very recently, an extremely heavy smoker, I can only say that the ban is a good thing. Firstly, only about 15% of the population smoke - the vast majority do not. We have seen our business actually grow as a result of the ban as non-smokers can now enjoy more fragrant surroundings. Too, non-smoking nights for the shows at Chateau Lambousa always sold out much faster than smoking nights. Secondly, given the climate in the TRNC it is no hard measure to have to go outside to smoke. When I smoked I never did so indoors at home. |
phylray


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Message Posted: 14/06/2010 11:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 109 in Discussion |
| Msg. 17 Good to hear that. Will look for Chateau Lambousa when over next month. The ban is reinforced strictly in Turkey, too, at least in Istanbul. Even before that my Turkish friend always gone outside to smoke, (5 a day!) They have as much right as anyone, including the TC's to guard their health, and they are aware. |
waddo

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Message Posted: 14/06/2010 13:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 109 in Discussion |
| Rowlo/johnw307, Very well said the both of you! Yes the Brits have arrived bringing with them their quaint regard for the law. Of course now they are in this foreign country I guess you think that the laws of the country do not apply to them - wrong! The laws on smoking are plain and they are being enforced more and more! Very much the same as the laws on murder but I guess you guys would have no trouble with being murdered anyway, you would just put it down to winging brits or say that you should have been somewhere else where murders don't happen at the time and it was your own fault you were there........................ Get real, if you live here then LIVE here, don't try to bring UK here its not wanted and because it is not here is the reason why so many Brits are here! Abide by the laws or visit the prison, I am told the air con at this time of year is really good there!!! |
hattikins

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Message Posted: 14/06/2010 13:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 109 in Discussion |
| A smoke, or a real life version of Midnight Express, no contest really. Smoker or non smoker the law is the law. |
Luca B

Joined: 25/09/2008 Posts: 29
Message Posted: 14/06/2010 17:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 109 in Discussion |
| The one gentleman [?] who labeled me whinging Brit clearly didn't read my name. As a further piece of irony he quoted the line "When in Rome..." well I was born in Lazio which makes me Roman! I can tell you that in actual fact the Brits are very mild in their protests compared to my countrymen when their rights are abused. Thankfully, and quite evidently, the vasy majority of smokers are very considerate unlike you and your supporter Rowlo. I am making no further comment on them matter other than to say I will be withdrawing my custom from Tango to Buddha. |
keithcaley


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Message Posted: 14/06/2010 18:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 109 in Discussion |
| Rowlo, You wrote "if you dont like people smoking , find a smoke free restraunt .." Well forgive my mentioning it, but they are ALL smoke -free by law, aren't they? |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 14/06/2010 18:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 109 in Discussion |
| Keith, how unkind, you ought at lowest to have repaired his spelling lest he should look like a bigger twonk than than the Johnny Rotten he purports to be... |
keithcaley


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Message Posted: 14/06/2010 23:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 109 in Discussion |
| Groucho, 'Copy and Paste' tells no lies... |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 00:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 109 in Discussion |
| fact , no smokers , no pub ,restraunts , no one with any decorum would smoke whilst people are eating , why is there still ashtrays on tables ,to use at your own discrettion , once again the middle england brigade have taken over , look at the pubs , restrauants , that have all closed down now , since this stupid ban has been put in place in UK , THE GOVERNMENT was serious about banning smoking ,they would close all the tobacco factorys down , but hey look at the revenue they would loose ? |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 01:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 109 in Discussion |
| msg22 , theyre all up for sale or closed , arent they ? |
wanderer

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 06:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 109 in Discussion |
| The smoking rules are fun the EU wants it banning the states follow the rules and ban smoking inside I was in Poland(now a EU country) in January Krakow if you smoked you could in specially designated areas So in restaurants and Bars it was possible in those areas I went for my son who was in a cellar bar two floors down he was sin there smoking if he had been a car he would have needed headlight the fog of smoke was that thick I believe that TB only allow the smoking after the food has finished and it turns into a night club then it should comply with Lambruscas comments If there is: a. No food whatsoever; b. No one under 18 ever; c. A suitable air-extraction system; then smoking may be permitted in upto 50% of the public areas. Fairly simple though if you don't like smoke don't go Along with the Breweries and the cigarette police the British pub has been driven to extinction By the way I don't smoke and I did 30 years ago 1 oz of tobacco a day(pipe)
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fiendishpaul

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 07:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 109 in Discussion |
| What a lot of tosh has been on this post. "fact , no smokers , no pub ,restraunts , no one with any decorum would smoke whilst people are eating , why is there still ashtrays on tables ,to use at your own discrettion" 1. I would suggest that the amount of bars/restaurants closing has got little if nothing to do with the smoking ban. The TRNC probably has more pubs/restaurants per capita than most major cities in the UK. New places are popping up every week and are competing for an ever dwindling customer base - tourist numbers are down and expats probably have less disposable income than they have had in previous years, this I would suggest is the primary reason that businesses are going to the wall. 2. Everybody knows that as soon as any rule is relaxed it becomes a free for all and people will not hesitate from lighting up whilst those around them are eating. continued.... |
fiendishpaul

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 07:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 109 in Discussion |
| Rowlo, you frequently post on here extolling the virtues of the TRNC and lambasting anyone who has the temerity to criticise the TRNC. The TRNC is not Middle England and has passed a law that says that you cannot smoke in pubs/restaurants unless certain criteria are met. I also note that you only holiday here, so any inconvenience to yourself is limited to the relatively small amount of time that you spend here. Please respect those of us who live here all the time. Follow your own advice, it is a TRNC law and as with all laws, is there to be obeyed. Regards Paul |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 08:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 109 in Discussion |
| Smokers would love you to believe that they are the saviours of the pub trade... but they are not. They are largely responsible for the pub trade not attracting families. It will take time but eventually pubs will become places that families can go and the air of mystery will be a thing of the past. Smokers would also love you to think that their tax revenues come without costs... they don't. All the government have to do is find some alternative revenue channel to tax should they need to replace cigarette taxes. Chocolate! Only 12% of people smoke... why do those smokers determined to share their habit with others think that 88% of the rest of humanity ought not to mind if they light up and make you smell? |
airy____fairy

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 08:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 109 in Discussion |
| Here here Groucho !!! , and as for this comment 'Fairly simple though if you don't like smoke don't go' Wanderer - what on earth the correct statement should be - smokers ALL public areas that serve food are NON smoking -if YOU dont like it stay at home ' The smokers seem to forget it is them that are breaking the law - us non smokers have had to put up with the smoke of others for a long time and now we don not have to ( or shouldnt have to - if it wasnt for the 'I am alright Jack ' brigade ) Smokers should be more considerate to others - seeing as it is them who are in the wrong in this instance!!! |
Oilman

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 10:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 109 in Discussion |
| Excellent postings the last two and the point has been succinctly made! |
chezzi

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 15:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 109 in Discussion |
| We also noticed it at T to B and asked why people were smoking and were told the law only applies up until midnight, then after that smoking is allowed! |
waddo

Joined: 29/11/2008 Posts: 1966
Message Posted: 15/06/2010 15:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 109 in Discussion |
| Groucho, Not getting into a word fight - BUT - if only 12% of people smoke then how come the pub trade in the UK dropped by over 50% and it has been widely reported that nearly 50% of pubs have had to shut because of lack of trade? Lies, damn lies and then "Statistics" I know but the numbers just do not add up. As a smoker - with a sense of humour - I think it is because all the people who classed themselves as non smokers but who used to go to the pub for a crafty breath of second hand smoke - now have to go without and don't visit the pubs anymore. Turkeys smoking figures are around 46% of people who smoke and I understand the TRNC was at just over 30% so if UK is down to 12% then it seems like either a lot of smokers have left - OR - a lot of non-smokers have moved in! Do they have fag's in Poland????? (Joke) |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 15:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 109 in Discussion |
| Waddo, OK no war of words.... There are plenty of pubs in the UK that are hoaching with non-smokers these days... you just never hear about pubs doing well. I've just returned from the UK and all the pubs that offered a great product - good food, beer and a happy smiling landlord appeared to be busy enough. The two places I visited and nearly outnumbered the staff were dismal places selling nothing much and a miserable host. Those pubs doing badly should see what successful pubs are doing these days and change the product they offer... If they just want to carry on as they were... hopeless. |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 15:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 109 in Discussion |
| Groucho in fairyland, I avidly await the next installment. |
fiendishpaul

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 16:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 109 in Discussion |
| Troodo Even Waddo acknowledges that in the TRNC approximately 30% of the population smoke which means that 70% don't. Do you think that it is right that the minority dictate to the majority ?? Whether you agree or disagree with smoking in pubs/restaurants, it is the law in the TRNC, plain and simple. BTW I am an ex-smoker who gave up 2 years ago having smoked for over 25 years. I have absolutely nothing against smokers, just a healthy respect for the law. Regards Paul |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 16:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 109 in Discussion |
| This 30% seem to get around a lot. |
spanna

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 17:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 109 in Discussion |
| No... just their smoke, Troodo!!! ;) |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 21:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 109 in Discussion |
| Smoke and mirrors? |
jakki


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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 22:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 109 in Discussion |
| Message 38 : Well done!! - It's a well known fact that tobacco is stronger than heroin - so well done for giving up. We have complaints to make about TTB (but that's another thread!!) - they have not even replied to our email!! - it's not about the smoking ban though something else!! Best wishes - Jackie |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 22:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 109 in Discussion |
| msg29 , you misunderstand me , i respect the laws , i am a smoker , but i dont even smoke in my own house , i would never dream of smoking in a restraunt while people are eating , living or holidaying in TRNC has nothing to do with it , people smoke , they shouldnt be picked on for that . |
spider

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Message Posted: 15/06/2010 22:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 109 in Discussion |
| At long last rowlo.!! being smokers too we would never dream of smoking inside or around none smokers either its only polite to get off ones **S and go outside... Spider,X |
Luca B

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Message Posted: 16/06/2010 14:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 109 in Discussion |
| Jakki I haven't had response either. If they care that little about disatisfied cleints then perhaps they don't deserve our custom? That's it for me. |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 16/06/2010 14:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 109 in Discussion |
| Must get over to Tango, sounds a great place. |
ClaireCat44


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Message Posted: 17/06/2010 10:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 109 in Discussion |
| Me too!! Especially if it's air-conditioned as it's getting a bit hot to smoke outside now!! JOKE! Unfortunately, THERE IS a smoking-ban here and there is nothing we can do but to respect it. |
cyprusairsoft


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Message Posted: 17/06/2010 20:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 109 in Discussion |
| rowlo think of your health and others |
mikki09

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 00:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 109 in Discussion |
| This is just something ELSE for the brits to moan about they don't know how to do anything else. This is not our country they have there own rules and anyone that comes into another country just needs to live with the way they do things and put up with it. If they allow smoking then go elsewhere. Or better still move somewhere else. I never hardly see any posts on here from brits with anything good to say about the place. What the hell are you doing here then. |
cyprusairsoft


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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 08:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 109 in Discussion |
| nice friendly post mikkio9 sound to me like you are the one thats moaning. i had a booking for 15 for this month and i have cancelled it because of smoking. I dont give a flying f**** If you all want to get cancer and smoke related disease but i dont my friends dont so go puff together somewhere else. Blooming smokers poor dears always hard done by about time the shoe was on the other foot Ahmet the manager of tango is a heavy smoker so i guess thats why he lets it go on still its his loss as people are cancelling and they are loosing money |
mikki09

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 08:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 109 in Discussion |
| I may be having a little moan but that is because of the the brits that come and live here in another country not there own and do nothing but moan about the place. It is just annoying when you live in another country you have to learn to live there way and the way they do things. They are not going to change just because brits are here. If the restaurants do not want smokers then they will change the rules if they don't mind then that is the way it will be. Not trying to start an argument just saying what I think. |
Pogle

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 08:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 109 in Discussion |
| Based on the attitude of " the management" to our group a few weeks ago I shouldn't think they give a toss if the British contingent cancel their bookings. |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 09:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 109 in Discussion |
| My group had a great time there. |
airy____fairy

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 09:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 109 in Discussion |
| mikkio9 - mes 49 and 51 ''It is just annoying when you live in another country you have to learn to live there way and the way they do things. They are not going to change just because brits are here. '' It is the law NOT to smoke - here AND in Turkey - nothing to do with brits. So yes I agree with you - we should all live the way of our NEW country - NO SMOKING in public indoor places all you smokers stop winging. ''Or better still move somewhere else. I never hardly see any posts on here from brits with anything good to say about the place. What the hell are you doing here then'' That would be nice an island full of non smokers !!! LOL cos it seems to me the only reason us non smokers are winging is because you smokers are breaking the law. I cant understand how this argument has carried on so long it really is very simple - GO OUTSIDE TO SMOKE BECAUSE YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW OTHERWISE _ WE DON NOT WANT TO BREATH YOUR SMOKE!!!!! |
nikegirl

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 10:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 109 in Discussion |
| I thought I should clarify the situation at Tango to Buddha: The place is a restaurant until 11 - 11:30pm when the kitchen is closed. During that time NO smoking is allowed inside the building. At the weekends, after the kitchen is closed, Tango to Buddha becomes a club and it is only then that smoking is allowed inside. Legally, this is acceptable. See message 17. Please note that every single club in the TRNC allows smoking. This is not unique to Tango to Buddha. Tango to Buddha was constructed prior to the smoking ban and a fortune was spent on a top of the range air extraction system so all smoke is filtered out. Finally, with regards to message 50 - "Ahmet the manager of tango is a heavy smoker so i guess thats why he lets it go on" - This is completely untrue. Ahmet does not "let it go on".... |
nikegirl

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 10:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 109 in Discussion |
| cont... This is a reputable establishment and a huge amount of investment has been put into it. I don't think that the smoking policies will be determined simply because the manager is a smoker. Finally, I think that as British people we should be supporting these new places which have gone to the trouble of hiring English speaking waiters and PR staff to accomodate our population in the TRNC. In my opinion, Tango remains a fabulous venue with incredible food and hopefully most of you will continue to go there and ignore this post which has gotten out of hand. |
ruggy

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 10:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 109 in Discussion |
| Nikegirl, Well said, it is a club after the restaurant shuts, and it happens at all the rest of the club's, not just T to B. Great food great place, keep it up boys. |
dizzycows

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Message Posted: 18/06/2010 11:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 109 in Discussion |
| Same old story isnt it, the smokers always were a selfish bunch, now that the law in Turkey and NC has come in they dont want to abide! Do they put up with someone drunk driving whilst they are a pasenger? no, ...do they put their child in a front seat with no seat belt,.... no..... cyprusairsoft, you then get the smokers on this forum moaning because they have a stroke, high blood pressure, or are on heart monitors ect ect... Crikey its hard enough keeping alive and well with out trying to commit 'hari kari', and then try and shirt the blame onto non smokers!! lol x Now wait for the moaners..... |
tango

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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 02:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 109 in Discussion |
| As the PR of TangoToBuddha I feel obligated to inform our customers of the smoking policy at TangoToBuddha: 1. The kitchen is open from 17:00 till 24:00, while the kitchen is open and serving customers there is no smoking permitted inside the restaurant. 2. After midnight our restaurant becomes a DISCO not a CLUB or BAR as these last two are in totally different catergories so as a DISCO we are permitted by law to allow smoking within the building. 3. We have a strict no smoking policy while food is being served! The manager and myself are both smokers, but, it is not relevant in this matter as long as the law is abided by. We smoke outside while food is being served. 4. We thank you all for your concerns and posts and on behalf of the entire T2B team we hope this clears up the matter of smoking inside the building. If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact me at anytime P.R. Angie 05338405857 |
MaggieAndBernie


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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 03:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 109 in Discussion |
| Would someone please enlighten me as to where this restaurant/disco is? Maggie |
uggbootsheep

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simbas


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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 06:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 109 in Discussion |
| msg 61 ???? Hi , welcome o the forum , i think you need to srart a new topic Simbas |
ianwfs

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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 07:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 109 in Discussion |
| Simbas. Don't you recognize spam when you see it? This member should be terminated or you'll get more of the same |
racoonchic


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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 07:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 109 in Discussion |
| went to tango on sunday about a third full and the smokers were definatly all outside |
simbas


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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 09:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 109 in Discussion |
| Hi ianwfs , i just thought it was a Chinese importer advertiser :¬) Simbas |
tango

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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 15:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 109 in Discussion |
| Dear Maggie, TangoToBuddha restaurant is located at Karakum, just before you get to Karakum Lemar on your right. Adress: Iskenderun Avenue, No: 19 Kyrenia Tel: 0392 815 0701 Mbl: 0533 888 0022 Angie PR 0533 840 5857 |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 16:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 109 in Discussion |
| Angie no one under 18 allowed in? |
tango

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Message Posted: 23/06/2010 23:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 109 in Discussion |
| Groucho Yes under 18's are allowed. |
Blackbird


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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 01:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 109 in Discussion |
| Times have changed - just a few years ago it was acceptable to smoke at the table. Then came a smoking ban in restaurants. And then a ban of smoking in public places! Although, now we have got used to a smoke free environment here in the UK, we have got to be tolerant in other countries. As we all know laws abroad can often be interpreted differently than here in the UK... aka EU!!! If you don't like people smoking.....go somewhere else! |
zerochlor

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 01:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 109 in Discussion |
| message 59 i think all forum admins have now read this reply and this thread has been answerd,im sure im correct?why havent you closed it?? why is it that it has took more than 24 hours to close this thread, and still not closed? as with all other insignificant threads they get closed once answerd? i feel so strongly that it is just a bit of the old pals act on here with the admins. what you want,a tenner to close it? you all do as you wish when you wish to. this thread has been answerd 24 hours ago,so why has it not been closed by one of the so called admins who close so many threads once answerd??? give me a answer before you close it . if you can? im sure you have a super excuse?? |
zerochlor

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 02:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 109 in Discussion |
| maybe some perverse people love to crusify some businesses!! i really do think you admins need a lesson in morals! you all sit on your lazy backsides each day passing judgement on us lot and closeing and banning who you think fit as you feel correct to do so. of course,its your job! i once new a ex army guy from the uk who went in to the prison service,he was a super guy,why did he join such a pathetic trade! cos he was bullied in the army, so he thought it was payback time and he could bully the good guys in the jail. Let me tell you,he had the shock of his little life take heed admins, do just not unjust! im off to bed,cos im tired . |
zerochlor

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 02:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 109 in Discussion |
| well simbas. i see your online now! i only ask u cos ur the only admim i see online! do you not feel the posting has now been answerd in message 59 isnt it time to close the thread? it is normal isnt it to close a thread when its been answerd? |
fiendishpaul

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 07:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 109 in Discussion |
| Zero - Msg 71 "so he thought it was payback time and he could bully the good guys in the jail". I thought only bad guys went to jail Paul |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 07:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 109 in Discussion |
| If under 18's are allowed then as per Gordon's understanding of the smoking regulations then smoking is not allowed under and other circumstances.. see message 17. So who is right? |
zerochlor

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 08:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 109 in Discussion |
| fiendishpaul. Jeffery archer was or is a good guy !! Ohh my head. il have to stay off that black sambuka ! |
tango

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 14:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 109 in Discussion |
| Yes as stated above. Under 18's are allowed. TangoToBuddha is a family restaurant until midnight, if the consenting adault chooses to stay for the disco, they should use there own discretion. If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact me at anytime Thank you Angie PR 0533 840 5857 |
jakki


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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 14:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 109 in Discussion |
| Message for Angie (PrR) T2T - I would be grateful if you could answer my boyfriend's email about the awful time we had at your restaurant - arthur.millman@goldwyns.co.uk Many thanks - Jackie |
nonna

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 16:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 109 in Discussion |
| Reading through this thread has just reminded me why I hardly ever bother with this board - pathetic. There again most of the ex-pat sing-along, drunken bars I also find pathetic. Well done TangoToBuddha, the whole concept is fabulous, feels like up-town Istanbul. A great menu, well trained friendly staff, great atmosphere and great music. The decor is fantastic too. I have been many times and is now a firm favourite for a good night out. Horses for courses as the saying goes... |
tango

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 16:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 109 in Discussion |
| Jackie I have not recieved an email from you. That is why I have not replied. Angie |
Luca B

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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 17:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 109 in Discussion |
| I didn't intend my posting to draw such hostility but would like to point out that I received a very polite email from Angie in response to my complaint. She explained to me very much what she has stated on this forum about the smoking policy. I confess I hadn't realised that after 24.00hrs the restaurant becomes classed as a club/disco and thus can permit smoking. I clearly have choice now that I am aware of the situation. I either attend and leave at 24.00 or don't go at all. I also agree with the factb that Tango To Buddha is an outstanding establishment and have have visited many times. I have no wish to harm anyone's business but then again I have no wish to harm my lungs and that is why I posted the complaint. I wish Tango to Buddha all the very best and hope it is a great success because the formula they have come up with is spot on. It is just that it may have to be without my company and a number of my friends. |
jakki


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Message Posted: 24/06/2010 17:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 109 in Discussion |
| Hi Angie - May we please have your email address - it may be that my boyfriend's email didn't get through to you -or alternatively you may contact me at jackie_maryson@hotmail.com. Many thanks. ps. our complaint is not about the smoking ban!! |
jakki


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Message Posted: 25/06/2010 12:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 109 in Discussion |
| ...............back to the top and looking forward to hearing from Angie. |
jakki


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Message Posted: 27/06/2010 15:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 84 of 109 in Discussion |
| Message for Angie - my boyfriend and I are really looking forward to hearing from you. |
Arthur

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Message Posted: 28/06/2010 16:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 109 in Discussion |
| Angie, For the record I have sent the email to you again. As you can see from the original, I did send it, and to the correct email address. Arthur |
Arthur

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Message Posted: 30/06/2010 15:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 86 of 109 in Discussion |
| Angie, still no answer to my original email over one month ago, or the copy sent two days ago........ |
jakki


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Message Posted: 06/07/2010 15:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 87 of 109 in Discussion |
| WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU ANGIE!!!!!! |
cyprusairsoft


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Message Posted: 06/07/2010 15:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 88 of 109 in Discussion |
| pogle as i know the manager of ttb very well i canassure you they would be worried if gb contingment didnt book the way trnc is going at the moment lots of places are going down the pan sadly and it aint getting better for a while. well done to the considerate smokers they have my admiration and thanks Ahmet is very pro british and appreciates what they have done for the trnc with investment |
jakki


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Message Posted: 07/07/2010 22:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 89 of 109 in Discussion |
| I don't think Angie is going to answer our emails about the horrid time we had at her restaurant in May/June - so bad in fact that we felt that we had to leave before the main course. Our complaint is not about the smoking ban - Angie has chosen not to answer to us - such a shame - we will not go back to T2B. Best wishes - Jackie |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 08/07/2010 10:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 90 of 109 in Discussion |
| Took a trip down Ledra St yesterday, seemed to be ashtrays in most cafes certainly in Starbuck and Mcdonalds. |
gardenmaker

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Message Posted: 09/07/2010 19:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 91 of 109 in Discussion |
| smokers paradise ive never been but will go now |
phylray


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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 02:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 92 of 109 in Discussion |
| I do remember a gentleman friend boasting to me that he would continue smoking despite all warnings etc. Eventually he had bypass surgery, as they do, and some of them still smoke! |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 08:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 93 of 109 in Discussion |
| So only smokers have to have bypass surgery - gosh, I did not know that. |
keithcaley


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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 10:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 94 of 109 in Discussion |
| Troodo, ALL of the people that I know who've had bypass surgery have been heavy smokers... However, in support of your comment, I should mention that the largest group who have this surgery, have it done simply to stuff the surgeon's wallets!: - http://www.drcranton.com/chelation/cabg1.htm |
sissy

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 14:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 95 of 109 in Discussion |
| I think that smokers should consider people who suffer from asthma. A lot of people suffer from it and smoke can set off an attack. |
petsitter22

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 14:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 96 of 109 in Discussion |
| Are restaurants not fined a huge amount if the police catch people smoking inside? |
proger1


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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 14:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 97 of 109 in Discussion |
| And I think that non smokers should consider that the vast majority of smokers do try thier best whilst under an addiction to consider those around them regardless of their health condition but still gat tarred with the same brush as the inconsiderate ones. Sorry sissy, I know that sounds pedantic but as a smoker, I have tried my best to ensure that my bad habit is restricted to myself and others with the same bad habit. I can't however control the people who make the choice to enter places where smokers ARE allowed to be and say that it is not fair that they as a non-smoker should be subjected to the smokey atmosphere. Non-smokers believe that they should have the choice to go anywhere and not lose that choice because of smokers but does that mean smokers should have no choice at all, even when we try and abide by the requirements of society as a whole, some people still don't believe we should be entitled to that. |
dizzycows

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 15:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 98 of 109 in Discussion |
| proger1, isnt it a human right to be able to go into any public place and not have to worry if you will have to leave because of some smokers who dont adhere to others health? Would you really like it if someone lit up a something you were allergic to? or if someone stank of sewerage sat next to you? its all the same sort of issue. Most smokers now just smoke in their own homes, it is only a few smokers that really dont care about any one else when they go out, so dont think its a matter of choice.. its all to do with thinking of others. Ask any smoker if they wish they hadnt had to have had a heart by pass, most tell you they wish they had really known how damaging smoking had been years ago, but they all say the same, they feel a lot better having given it up and can now understand why non smokers do not want to to be subjected to others smoke. |
Woodspeckie

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 16:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 99 of 109 in Discussion |
| keithcaley. My husband had triple heart by-pass 8 years ago, he had never smoked in his life, had a healthy life style but was a hereditery diabetic, his Mother & Brother died from heart attacks relating to diabetic problems. While he was having tests done for Angina he had a cardiac arrest and was operated on immediatly saving his life. No stuffing anyones pocket here just so grateful to the surgeon for giving him his life back which he enjoys now to the full. |
racoonchic


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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 16:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 100 of 109 in Discussion |
| lets have a dirty protest cause ive just shit myselfffff |
teatime

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 16:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 101 of 109 in Discussion |
| Msg 99: Well said, but I'm afraid that still won't convince non-smokers, they will now blame passive smoking instead. I've known several people who have had by-passes who have never smoked and led healthy lifestyles. |
proger1


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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 16:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 102 of 109 in Discussion |
| dizzycows, you pretty much agreed with what I said, it is a few that are not thinking of others. I am afraid I will never win this arguement so there is no point, I will try not to inconvenience non-smokers by not smoking where they are situated but if I am smoking in an area designated as a smoking zone and a non-smoker complains to me that I am dmaging their health, the answer will always be the same, you chose to come to a place that allows smoking so you in fact are damaging your health by choice. It is like me walking into the middle of a motorway and then complaining that I got hit by a car. I have the god given right to walk anywhere my feet can take me, that is not the issue, the issue is having the sense not to walk into the situation and then complaining about it being dangerous. |
Rogerdodger

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 20:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 103 of 109 in Discussion |
| People who smoke in areas that they are not supposed to smoke are just b****y ignorant, and most of these I have seen in restraunts are brits, why because they think they are above the rules, you would not do it in the UK so why do it here, hit them where it hurts, with a fine and the restraunt owner, then the rules would be enforced, and people who do not smoke could enjoy their meal. |
Arthur

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 20:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 104 of 109 in Discussion |
| I have to say that Angie [PR at T2B], is reticent in replying to our complaint made at or around 27th May. Earlier in this thread she said that she hadn't replied to my email because "she hadn't seen it" [despite it going to the correct email address] well it was sent again yet still no answer. I have previously avoided making any comment apart from asking for a reply [so as to give her a chance to answer]. The fact is that when we went to T2B in May, it is the only time I have got up and left a restaurant because the food and service were so poor. Why didn't I ask to see the manager? - well I did, but when he hadn't the courtesy to come to our table after waiting 15 minutes, we decided enough was enough & got up and left. |
Troodo

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Message Posted: 10/07/2010 21:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 105 of 109 in Discussion |
| Doger, you are sounding like a Greek Cypriot. |
keithcaley


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Message Posted: 11/07/2010 11:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 106 of 109 in Discussion |
| Woodspeckie, re msg 99, I didn't intend any disrespect, and I'm sorry to hear of your brother's problem. I'm glad that it's sorted him out. You were obviously writing with this in mind, from your own personal experience, but as you didn't quote it - it came across as a bit of as put down - my mistake! Best regards, Keith. |
Woodspeckie

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Message Posted: 11/07/2010 13:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 107 of 109 in Discussion |
| Thank you Keith, it was my Husband who had the heart bypass his Brother wasn't so lucky he died at 49 he was a heavy smoker, before his heart problem was diagnosed. |
keithcaley


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Message Posted: 11/07/2010 14:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 108 of 109 in Discussion |
| Woodspeckie, My apologies yet again, I mis-read your post... I'm not doing very well today, am I? |
tango

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Message Posted: 13/07/2010 20:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 109 of 109 in Discussion |
| Dear Arthur, I have replied to your email you must not have recieved it so I will again write to you. Thank You Angie |
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