did no one explain the pit falls ?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 23:27

before you decided to buy in TRNC , or did you see a cheap house of plan , where you were promised the world , for lets say 100k ,18 month build , 50k up front , the rest in staged payments , if not, you must have been dreaming ? mind blowing aint it , but its not real , is it ? so why come on here and moan ? should have bought a golf apartment in spain .

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 23:31

Good point Rowlo.



Should have had a pint of whatever you are drinking.



wyn

Pogle


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 1536

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 23:32

so whats your story Rowlo?

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 23:44

For goodness sake rowlo sometimes i do wonder whats up with you.guess we must put it down to drink.!



Ya..what is your story..you just came here to live and your laughing all the time..We rent and are very happy doing so but our hearts go out to all who now find themselves heading for a right old mess..



sometimes your remarks amaze all.but hay ho lots of people on the forum just the same. ))





Spider,X

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 23:49

msg3 , no story mate , seen the place loved it , bought it , my missus wanted to buy in famagusta , when i saw ,played the golf course at korenium , got her pissed ,done the deal while she lay in bed with a hangover , she still thinks were in famagusta ,LMAO ? were in arapkoy .

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
15/06/2010 23:54

Its a mental defence mechanism. By saying it like it is, we are shattering dreams, bursting bubbles and in some cases even fantasy's.



Much easier to blame everyone else than face facts.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 00:02

dont put it down to drink , spider , ive put my money where my mouth is , no regrets here mate , im not renting , ive bought ?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 00:07

One of the problems with telling people about the pitfalls, is that there is always someone like Rowlo who will ignore all the problems like PTP, deeds, mortgages, poor workmanship and unfinished builds and instead blame people for not doing their homework. This gives people a false sense of security as they then think that there is actually something that they can do to protect their property/money.



There isn't. The legal system is open to abuse and its more of a case of "There but the Grace of God go I"



I really would like someone to come on this forum and tell me how i can buy with complete safety. Any offers Rowlo?

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 00:12

Guess that would be lucky you then rowlo...we could have brought but we had not even visited when we came over therefore we rented first,no regrets here either as we can up and move on whenever we get tired of the place and the folk.. ) the world is ours not just North Cyprus..Do you not have friends who have found themselves in a terrible situation..perhaps you have few?? show some compaction for gods sake rowlo.and please try not to be so....as you are!!!!





Spider,X

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 01:21

youre not making any sense spider ?

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 01:28

Got your Kocan ? Woody!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 01:29

msg8 , buy in spain ,or italy ,or south cyprus ? but my bet is you came looking for the nice places on the cheap , then got your fingers burnt ? and now you moan about everything TRNC ?

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 01:42

Do you have a property in NC?

In your name rowlo???

DONTY


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 534

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 01:44

Spain for a safe purchase, are you sure rowlo? well documented problems. Here's just one of hundreds of pages on the problems. http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=5485



South Cyprus rowlo? How long do you wait for your title there rowlo? Is everything rosy there? The Brits had a protest march not long ago!

Quick google, 1st link came up with this.

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com



And just for luck, here's Bulgaria: http://sofiaecho.com/2010/03/01/866503_britons-to-march-on-bansko-against-alleged-property-theft

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 02:09

rowlo

there is degree of getting your fingers burnt. The reason for the cheap property,and it isnt that cheap now compared to Spain,Turkey or Bulgaria, was because of exchange land ,and because one day you might lose property in a court case or settlement, Will still have to pay comp, so thats another reason. Then there was the no direct flights.

Weighed up , decision made and money put aside for comp.

Anything else has nothing to do with cheap property ,its to do with an exploitative system. The frauds would have taken place if the houses were £50k or £200k.

Funny, the people who knew about all the risks with the banks ,legal system and builders ,are so smart now that its in the public domain.I dont remember any of this 'knowledge' being imparted when it could have done some good,and if anyone else tried ,they were 'whingers'



Somebody dumps rubbish in my garden thats ok because the property is cheap?

How much should villa cost before law protects you. £100k,200,300.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 18:03

Spider/Msg 9: ' show some *compaction for gods sake rowlo.and please try not to be so....as you are!!!!'



* Do you really mean under a road roller-compactor, or a Caterpillar D9 - oh, no - surely not a Euclid ?



......................Tut, tut, Spider! ! !

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 19:52

rowlo,



I did not buy a cheap property off plan but waited and bought a house when it was finished and all services were connected and roads were in. We paid in full a lump sum before the keys were handed over, this did not stop the developer mortgaging our property as we discovered when we went to register it. The developer has now paid this mortgage off as promised but we still do not have our deeds after waiting over 4 years. We have ptp and have paid all our taxes but this developer is known to drag his heels when it comes to exchanging title deeds. We did not know this when we bought and with hindsight we should have rented like Spider. We thought we had done everything we could, doing our homework, finding a good independant lawyer before commiting our hard earned money to the TRNC. Unless you have your title deeds nobody is safe and everyone should be demonstrating to have the law changed. Whether it is in the TRNC or the UK.



The butlers wife

tamand


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 240

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 20:11

While i dont agree intirely with Rowlo, he does have a few very valid points, most people saw a chance of a cheap villa in the sun/believed everything the bulider/developer/lawyer/salesman/estateagent said and jumped in without doing any ;proper homework, this is a fact, not make believe or cloud cuckoo, they fell foul of unscrouplous dealers etc etc, but at the end of the day nobody told them they HAD to buy or held a gun to the heads, they BELIEVED what they heard and in many cases it WAS too good to be true, but it happened in Spain / Portugal /France Turkey and many more places and guess whot it will happen again and again cos people will not wise up.

These people here saw a way to *rob* unwary people and make easy bucks and guess whot IT WORKED cos we all thought they were such nice people, well they aint any better than the scumbags that are robbing people everyday in England for building jobs etc.

Just my opinion, and ive come over a few theiving brits here as well

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 20:20

msg 18

" and ive come over a few theiving brits here as well "



Do you mean VIILIANS, as my friend said after one pint in an English pup?

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 20:24

At the end of the day Britain OR Cyprus ?



Its an easy choice !



Whats Britain got going for it ?







NOT A LOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 20:44

You are missing the point. Thieves are thieves whether in Britain or Cyprus. It's the action we are criticising not the nationality. Also no one is saying that the TRNC is not a great place to live, just that its not the place to buy property and the laws are outdated and discriminatory.



Do you think those people (TC and Brit) who have invested all their money in property in Cyprus and have lost everything due to what in most cases can only be described as blatant fraud, really have choices as to where they can now live?



Surely this is just a question of what is right and what is wrong?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 20:51

Bradus,



That was certainly clear enough to me.!



Wynyardman

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 22:03

msg13 yes , do you ?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/06/2010 22:29

Bradus,

re msg 21;

"blatant fraud"

Is something that REAL TCs knew nothing about until............

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
17/06/2010 00:09

rowlo.



You make a couple of valid points but for some people its too late.

By telling people in the UK they are mugs to buy here you are basically sending out the same message about purchasing as those you criticise . You are just coming from a different direction.So whats the problem?



Also, regardless of how stupid people have been ,NC has as its only major earner the construction and associated industries,and is ill served by intimating that anyone that buys here deserves to be ripped off.What about those that have purchased with no problem. How about supporting changes and invite people to purchase,instead of mocking those that have purchased, or might have purchased in the future.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
17/06/2010 02:35

We have deeds. Our advocate assured us all would be ok with deeds . I think in North cyprus you will get ripped off by those only if you let them !!!

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
17/06/2010 05:55

Pipie,

I am genuinely pleased for you.

However, IMO, to say that "in North Cyprus you will get ripped off by those only if you let them" is a pretty general statement

Did your Vendor / Builder try to rip you off?

I think that if you deal with Honest people, you probably won't get ripped off, and if you deal with Villains then you probably will, no matter what your advocate says or does, because they've had a lot of practice, and they've got something to gain, unlike most advocates, who get paid 'Win or Lose'

But how do you know, in advance, which are the Honest ones, and which are the Villains? - Without benefit of Hindsight?

cyprusjoker


Joined: 29/08/2009
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
17/06/2010 08:20

Rowlo, stop moaning about people moaning!