Yorgozlu, Why did you learn English?

greenman


Joined: 16/02/2008
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Message Posted:
18/06/2010 13:50

Hi Yorgozlu, Not wishing to further hijack wynardman's post but interested in your comments. Why did you learn English? I ask this not to criticise you, but you talk about most British not learning Turkish, and wondered what gave you the incentive to learn English?

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 14:29

Greenman,

Yorguzlu lived in the UK and his wife and kids speak great English as well.



Chris

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 21:00

Thank you Chris for answering on behalf of me.

I'd also like to add that my not Turkish (Irish) wife and 2 kids,after 2.5 years in Cyprus speak very good Turkish as well.

So far in TRNC I've met 1 person who is English and speaks Turkish as well.(weel done mate,Id take my hat off to you)

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 21:05

as for the original question:



What do you think my chances of survival would have been in UK for 20+ years if I hadnt borhered?



I was in Rome,so I did what the Romans did!!



As for what school/s I went to learn it....I've not graduated yet!!! This one lasts a lifetime..........



Regards

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 21:36

Yorguzlu

I would dearly love to speak Turkish, I know lots of words & the odd phrase but struggle to put them into a sentence. 2 problems: as I'm not here all the time (swallow) it's difficult to slot into a Turkish class/course. Also (maybe it's an 'age' thing) but I find that for every new word I learn I forget one I already knew!



Would be grateful for any tips you may know about learning the language= do you recommend an intensive (expensive) one to one course? Should I try one of those 'teach yourself' courses with CDs?



I agree with what some other people say about trying to practise Turkish locally - people want to practise speaking English!



Maggie

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 21:47

msg 5;

"I know lots of words & the odd phrase but struggle to put them into a sentence"



Thats where learning of every language starts,though I must admit,self-confidence plays big part in it.

Mingle in with locals and you'll see how much easier it is.

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 21:53

Msg 6

I mingle with the locals constantly - I live in Baspinar village, surrounded by locals - they all want to speak English! lol



Maggie

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 22:07

msg 7;

You want to come and see my wife,2.5 years here and she is almost fluent just by having couple of friends.Not far from you either.

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 22:29

Hi again



Yes I would love to come and meet you & your wife! will email you.



Maggie

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 22:29

You have to be in it to learn it.....turkish is an elasticated language...one word can be lengthened to such a degree, you can almost lose your breath for one word!! However.....'pigeon' turkish WILL be understood...like when you hear a foreigner say, ie, me. want. burger........instead of 'wow, i'd so love a fat juicy burger right now with all the trimmings'!!



It is good to try to learn a language....but don't be afraid to use 'pigeon' language, as long as you know the main words, chances are you will be understood!





DD

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 22:39

MY turkish neigbours do not speak english and i have ver limited turkish but you know we sit together for a drink and somehow communicate, i thik i have taught them more english because they ask. we get by. GUIDO On the other hand is a master at languages, he speaks 7 . he has really done so well to pick it up. Then you have to he tells me to deal with all the nonsence here , to shop etc xx

keithr


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 720

Message Posted:
18/06/2010 23:17

I am determined to master Turkish if it drives me mad sometimes !!!



The secret I have been told is to think the sentence as Turkish people do and it will flow. I can recognise a lot more words now than 1 year ago,when I started taking lessons.



The other thing i'm seriously considering is a month long immersion course in Turkey.

phoebe_cat


Joined: 06/01/2009
Posts: 146

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 00:16

Re msg 12 - do you have any details of an immersion course in Turkey, could well be interested.

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 00:32

Ps , personal remarks which could amount to slander are against board rules threfore i am deleting your post

nurseawful



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Message Posted:
19/06/2010 00:37

Donga,



I have got to disagree with you on this. I have found Yorgozlu nothing but helpful he has moved wheelchairs etc for me and not charged a penny. Anytime I ask him for help he does it willingly and for free.



Chris

donga


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Message Posted:
19/06/2010 00:40

And I disagree with you - he's out for anything going, par for TRNC & had many tell me this ( after I had told them about the car buying experience..................... buying a car for his wife....)

nurseawful



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Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 00:42

Donga,



I can only speak as I find and thats how I found him.



Chris

donga


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Message Posted:
19/06/2010 00:49

I too can only speak as I find........................... perhaps he fancies his chances ??





Most "locals" out there do things for 2 reasons - money or the other.

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 01:04

Donga,



This will make Yorgozlu laugh as I am old enough to be his mother!!!! so definately not that and I have no money!!! Plus he knows my husband.



I honestly have not had a problem with the "locals" helping when I need it.



Sorry you seemed to have a rough time here in TRNC and hope you have a happier time in your new destination.



Chris

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 02:17

Message18 - Turk cypriots and mainland Turks have always been helpful generous people.

I would imagine that the locals are beginning to see how the world really is and adopting more European attitudes to life.

Unfortunately this is bound to happen as a result of tourism and settlers.

Off course there are good and bad in every race - and that is evident here in the UK with the "bad" minority ever increasing.

But"most" Brits are also helpful generous people.

Pixie


Joined: 18/03/2009
Posts: 489

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 08:40

I find this to be hilarious. You are actually discussing a board member here for everyone to see. What are you getting out of this Donga? He took your car for a test drive and then told you the price was too much for him?

Turkish Cypriots are subtle...he probably meant that he was willing to bargain if you went down in price!

What horrid things you are writing about someone you don't know!

Based on this I can claim that you are judgemental and a gossiper.

Would that be correct?

How can you label someone after seeing them for such a short while, or reading a few posts?

This is really funny...

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 09:48

Pixie, I absolutely agree, the first thing I thought was that Yorg was probably trying to get the price down, it's called trying to get the best deal.

I am afraid to say Donga that if a buyer who didn't want to buy is all it takes to make you reach the point of insulting someone in public, you must be very hard to deal with on a normal day. I know that is me making an assumption but just trying to point out how things can seem if you look at them badly.

As far as I know Yorg is very helpful and very patriotic.



Why you felt it nescessary to turn a question about linguistics into an insult against someone mystifies me.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
19/06/2010 10:10

This thread is now closed.



Reason: Thread went off topic.





Msg 14 deleted for said reason





Simbas