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YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 15:21

Few years back, there was an incident of a Greek Cypriot being held by Lefkosha Police and reputed to have been slapped around and apparently died a few days later after being released.

I’ve heard that he was a Greek Cypriot eoka/mafia member and was not so brave when he was in the hands of the boys.

Has anybody else heard of this story and shed some light on the matter.

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 15:26

If any of my GC friends who I know read this forum can help with this, I would really appreciate it. I am doing some research on the treatment of people being held by both police forces on the island and any information would be greatly appreciated.

ataturk


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 15:30

I think this would be best posted on a greek cypriot forum if you are wanting the GCs to answer it

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 16:36

Message 3



Don't worry they read every word we write and reply on their forum. I will from there too. I was just wandering if any body had heard of an incident and if they have any other information. This is purely research and not meant to be political.

dublinderm


Joined: 26/09/2009
Posts: 538

Message Posted:
24/06/2010 17:31

Hi there,



I remember this story being widely reported in the Cyprus Mail some years ago.



There was a bit of a fuss at the time and the family arranged a second autopsy in the South. Then the story just seemed to disappear. The TK Police said that the man's body had some bruising as a result of attempts to recusitate him after a suspected heart attack. I do not think there was anything in the autopsy to contradict this.



You can be sure that if there was anything really suspicious about the death, the GCs would still be going on about it.



DD

iceman


Joined: 15/08/2008
Posts: 724

Message Posted:
24/06/2010 17:41

re Fredo...hope you're not talking about DT's father inlaw...cos if you are, you have been misinformed.

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:00

Iceman, that is just one of them. Please tell me about it.

iceman


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:08

Halil is your man....he knows the story much better than i do....send him a PM and also why not ask DT himself?

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:15

We are not on talking terms with DT. But I'll see him in London in a month’s time with a get together, I'll ask him then before I give him what for, he might just squeal a few words the swine.

Halil wrote something about it being connected with the mafia on the other forum, but he did not sound too sure. DT did a strop and he stopped talking.





You really think that DT will say anything other than what suits the GCs?

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:17

DD do you know what year it was?

iceman


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:43

mafia? what mafia?? All i know is the man had a health issue and the treatment he got under police custody and Nicosia prison made it worse............to the point that he died!!!

His body was handed back to his family after he died in Nicosia general hospital...This was back in November 2007

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 18:53

DT keeps talking as if they killed him.

iceman


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 19:14

well.......he didn't die from old age.

dublinderm


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Posts: 538

Message Posted:
24/06/2010 20:30

From the Cyprus Mail 3 November 2007



THE FORMER consul of Ireland in Cyprus Stephanos Stephanou has died in Turkish Cypriot custody after being detained on October 18 on accusations of smuggling antiquities.



The cause of Stephanou’s death was not officially known, although it is believed he was not in good health and had been further weakened by his detention in the north. He was 64.



Stephanou was well known on the island, having been the Irish consul for many years before Ireland opened a fully-fledged embassy and appointed an ambassador ahead of Cyprus EU entry.



A statement from the Stephanou family yesterday asked that the media to respect their privacy in this difficult time.



DD

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 20:52

Thank you DD. That helps. I will now be able to dig up some more info.



Regards.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
24/06/2010 21:44

Ask Orifice, He knows

YFred


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 22:33

She is too busy with GR. When did she have a sex change?

ttoli


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Message Posted:
24/06/2010 22:38

Its Thursday, Brit hubbies playing pool

iceman


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 10:02

re fredo...whats with the interest in this subject? you playing detectives since they booted you from CF?

anyway if you want the truth, this is as close you will get to it >> http://human-rights-archaeology.blogspot.com/2009/03/death-and-denial-stephanos-stephanou.html

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 11:31

Thanks Iceman for the info. I've got to have few more things to wind the old dog up when we meet in London. Any other dirt on him and GR and the rest of the fatherless lost souls brigade will be appreciated.



The way I understand it, I booted them off my PC. I banned them first and may never allow such rubbish on my PC again. Have you seen how boring it has become. Deniz and Bir and the rest of the TCs should come over this side and stop wasting their time with Greek Cypriot zelouts over there including the Charluis in London. Lamron na dus gapsi je na das gami guzzalin.

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 11:40

Reh ttoli, we'll have no sexism here. Just because she may be the most broing human on earth, no need to blame the husband. She spends most of her time on the forum trying to find out what TC babies taste like. Would you want to sleep with that. What if in the middle of the night she wakes up and decides to find out what you taste like?



Then what?

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 13:06

Thanks Tenakoutou,



All information is good. Good to know what kind of personality he was.



Regards

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 13:12

Does anyone have a link to a speech that Makarios gave on Greek Cypriot radio in 1963 when he said he will throw all the Turks into the sea?

Link to a Recording or a newspaper article will do.

Regards

YFred


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Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
25/06/2010 14:30

Tenakoutou, can I also ask about his daughter. What kind of character was she like, as a person?

Was she a chip off the old block?



There is a rumour about Oracle and GR, can anybody confirm whether it is true or not, how long did it last and was DT watching at the time.

This is very important to my research about Greek Cypriots women, particularly those that are half Greek. Who on one side pretend to be religious and decent but on the other side actually are very promiscuous.

dublinderm


Joined: 26/09/2009
Posts: 538

Message Posted:
25/06/2010 16:05

Hi again,



I met Mr. Stephanou a few times while serving with the Irish UN contingent in 1997/98. The officer and senior NCO cadre were advised to have as little dealings with him as possible. Whenever there was a visit by Irish Government ministers he was always on hand toadying up to them and 'advising' on the Cyprus issue.



One of us Senior NCOs was always given the task of allowing him access to the Duty Free store to fill up the boot of his car (illegally) with hooch.



I seem to remember that the Daughter held concessions for Cyprus for UK confectionary companies (Mars, Cadburys, etc.) but my recollection could be flawed. She would turn up at the opening of an envelope and was always on the scene. Maybe she hoped to replace Daddy as the Consul. The plan fell apart when Ireland moved the Embassy from Baghdad (or Beirut) to Nicosia.



They were not well regarded among the Irish community in the South either with much disparaging remarks at social functions. Nothing specific.

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 16:19

Thank you DD, much appreciated.



Any more, please keep them coming.

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 16:27

Does anyone know how to get to Prometheus Str in South Nicosia. I am having trouble finding a map for it. Has anyone got a link to a decent map.



Regards

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
25/06/2010 16:39

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/google_map_Nicosia.htm

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 16:53

Thankyou very much tooty.

Much appreciated.

Regards

Tootie


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 18:27

Your hot topic across the road YFred..

Why did you get banned, How long for?

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 18:55

They don't like me, do they? They don't like the truth about what roc does. They will come December. They are in for a shock.



I'll be there to rub their noses in it, just like a little pup when it does it mess on the curpet.



Apparently for a month, because I had a disagreement with their admin. I did not realise that I was that important. Noe that I know, I will make sure I get back and rub it in some more.



The more Info I have the better.

Tootie


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 19:03

LOL. Can you not even read posts now your banned then?

Dont get ya self banned from here cos it will be alot longer than a month.

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 20:29

Don't worry about my Greek Cypriot cousins down south, they are like Pittbulls with their teeth pulled out. All they can do is lick you to death.

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 20:57

Tootie the old saying goes, I never done nothing to nobody.



They just don't like the truth.



If I get banned, so be it. I will not be silenced and will say my a word or two when it is needed. If you search the truth, sooner or later you will find it.

Tootie


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 21:06

YFred, Fair enough...

May I ask your Nationality?

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 21:13

I am a Turkish Cypriot living in London

iceman


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 21:17

thought your were a linobambaki from Louroujina....

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 21:22

Iceman where did you come from. It is all a rumour, I don't really believe that, I just use it to wind up my GC cousins in the south.



Where is the proof that Linobambaki even existed. All sorts of people make up all sorts of stories.

iceman


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 21:24

Following the Ottoman conquest, many Greek Cypriots and Latins, in order to escape heavy taxation, converted to Islam. Many Greek Cypriots who had been officially converted to Islam remained actually Christians in secret. They were normally called "linobambaki". According to a view expressed for the first time in 1863 AD, and then adopted in the following years, this word was taken metaphorically from a cloth woven with linen and cotton and which had two different sides corresponding thus to the two aspects of their faith. The "linobambaki" turned up during daytime as Muslims, and in the evenings they appeared as Christians, keeping to Christianity, its customs and its habits



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_under_the_Ottoman_Empire



http://linobambaki.tripod.com/



just google the word linobambaki

YFred


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Message Posted:
25/06/2010 21:29

Ice man I know Arifler. You are not him are you? He is a Lurucadi living in Girne. I know about his writing on Linobambaki and trying to get help for Lurucina, but That is not solid proof as to the real begings of the village.

Paphitis


Joined: 26/06/2010
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 12:46

Message # 1



YFred,



shame on you for trying to exploit a family's personal grief and loss. How much lower can you stoop?

YFred


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Message Posted:
26/06/2010 13:01

No Bafitis, I am not. He has called me everything under the sun, and I get banned. If you are a human what would you do. It is interesting to find out about a person and his background. I suspected he found wealth later. They are particularly horrible especially if it comes through a marriage.



He had all the sympathy about his loss and manged to win you simpletons like you over. But there was more to that story that he said. Natural curiosity takes over. I am not viscous or malicious, he is.



You GR Oracle DT are nothing but liars who make up stories regarding members when you don't even know them. But know this, what you said about my precious daughter you will never be forgiven for.



Did you really think that banning me would silence me, then you are more stupid than you realise. But then again that is the description of Stupidity.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 13:09

Yfred . I think you need to continue this off board . And please do not carry over your gripes with CF on here . Personal insults are against board rules .

Simbas

YFred


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Message Posted:
26/06/2010 13:12

Point taken.

Paphitis


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Message Posted:
26/06/2010 13:15

YFred,



It is quite amazing how you falsify things! You were the one that called many every name under the sun, and then you broke the camel's back when you insulted Admin!



Your banning has nothing to do with silencing you. Don't flatter yourself!



You overstepped the mark, and you were consequently banned for your deplorable behaviour. It takes a lot to get banned at the other forum. Many TCs contribute there without any hindrance.

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 13:17

Paphitis msg 43 , the same applies to you too

Simbas

Paphitis


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Message Posted:
26/06/2010 13:29

Roger that!



Wilco!