are nigerians scammers?

profali98


Joined: 17/06/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 20:52

who says nigerians are scammers?

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 20:54

Don be silly. Out of 150 Million people how may are scammers? Put all the scamming together that comes out of Nigeria will it much how much what Madeoff maid off with?

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 20:58

well i got a minimum of 5 emails a week inviting me to offload a few million quid....all from Nigerian doctors/lawyers/business men....and a few from old grannies who don't want to give it their families......all i had to do was supply them with my bank details etc!!! Scammers??? No, never!!



Got myself a new email address now...lets see how long it takes before i get some more!!





DD

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 21:05

RE msg 1, peofali98: (...) who says nigerians are scammers? (...)

=> No, they're not! Recently I got an email from the son of a former Nigerian bank president, who happened to have 30 million US dollars or so and didn't know how to transfer the money to me. We're in close email contact now, because he found out that the 30 million belonged to a Nigerian who was related to my mother's sister. I have to keep this a secret so I cannot give more information here.

I have had a thousand of such emails from a thousand Nigerian scammers, but this one is not a scam, because the sender solemnly wrote that we are brothers in Christ.

The money can arrive any day. So he says. "Who says nigerians are scammers?" - I do.

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 22:07

They think they are so clever that no one will suspect its a scam. We didnt come up on a banana boat.

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 22:26

Re : Msgs 3-5,



I've recently read in Money mail that out of each 1000 of these emails and letters 6(!) are successful! Shocking!

One born every minute...

DONTY


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 534

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 22:31

Are all Nigerians Scammers? No, but many scams do come out of Nigeria.

Are all English people moaning gits? Not all, just the majority.

Marilou


Joined: 12/06/2010
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 22:45

These emails don't seem to stop! They are all scams and all nigerians. Sometimes if the story of a president's son or oil money doesn't work there is stories of women in camps who falls in love by email without knowing if the address is for a man or woman!! I can't believe that still people fall for them and believe them! Its a deja vu and bunch of lousy crooks!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 23:00

its all the same , its a communication breakdown , i phoned my bank the other day to transfer some funds , lloyds of london , 2 hrs later we got a knock on the door , 2 chicken bhunas ,pila rice , and keema nan ?

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 23:01

Who needs email scams in the TRNC

eager


Joined: 23/02/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
26/06/2010 23:40

Not sure if they are scammers or not....but still not had a reply from the guy i sent £10.000 to a few weeks ago. He gave me his word that he would pay me back, maybe he needs a bit more time, sounded such a nice chap will email him in a couple of weeks.

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 00:36

trust a nigerian to be the only person in the world not to think there all at it

DONTY


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 534

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 00:51

msg 12:

Regarding this post and the racist one you posted that was deleted the other day, do we take it you dont like black people?

khristy


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 01:09

are there any black people, other than nigerians living in trnc ?

DONTY


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 534

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 02:15

Yes, along with Nigerians you can add people from Cameroon, Ghana, England, Democratic Republic of Congo and Kenya. There are even black Turkish Cypriots. I'm sure there are other nationalities but those are the nationalities ive met.

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 02:54

Re : Msg 13,



Regarding whole TWO THREDS that were deleted with your foul and abusive language, do we take it you don't like any people unless , of course, they buy from you?

cyprusman3



Joined: 09/06/2009
Posts: 297

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 07:21

A nigerian told me they have scamming lessons in school but they need to update their curriculem i think !!

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 08:01

I believe the fact that most of the scams are from Nigeria, not all I may add is that the network provider there will not allow traces to be made to the origin of the IP address that the mail came from therefore they can't be caught when you complain about them to the police or equivelant.

Deniz1, as clarissa2 has allready said, quite a few of these scams to get answered by people who are willing to send the required funds for the new prince of asamuzundazunda or such to release the funds his father had hidden away in a secret bank.

The most unfortunate thing is that anyone is gullible and desperate enough to believe that this windfall is the saviour of them becoming destitute can never afford to loose the money they send and get conned.

No offence DC, but I read a novel which included a great deal about the Nigerian gangs who carried out this operation when it was at it's worst and it turned out they mostly operated out of Amsterdam and believed to be run by Dutchmen, not proved.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 08:02

As I have said before donty we cannot trust a word you say because you cannot be honest about who you are, so to me and moany others, automatically everything you say is a lie or rubbish!!!!



As for Nigeria, yes a minority have set the country up to be abused. Fortunatley the government brought in the 419 legislation (that is the number of the directive) to try to stop the scammers. This has driven many of them to neighbouring West African countries.



How can people still be getting conned is what I want to know, there has been so much publicity over thae yeasr about these scams and how they work.



The fun is the games set up to scam the scammers and many have worked. Interested then check out the sites associated with the scams, I have posted 3 below but there are many more, enjoy!



http://www.419baiter.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_fraud

http://www.419eater.com/

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 08:23

mess 15#



you could not be more wrong if you tried, i lived in london for many years and alot of my friends were black so i dont know what your trying to infer but it is not going to work!

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 09:01

In answer to No. 1: Does petrol burn??

Geoff

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 09:12

RE msg 18, proger1: (...) No offence DC, but I read a novel which included a great deal about the Nigerian gangs who carried out this operation when it was at it's worst and it turned out they mostly operated out of Amsterdam and believed to be run by Dutchmen, not proved. (...)

=> Absolutely true. They operate from Amsterdam-Bijlmer (kind of a large suburb), where the population mainly exists of "new Dutchmen" (as the "old Dutchmen" are now required to call them). However, I've not read yet that these Nigerian gangs are managed by Dutchmen - which of course doesn't mean you are wrong.

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 09:49

why is this post still open as it is of a racist nature

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 10:04

DC, there was no evidence from the author in his book that there were any dutchmen involved apart from overhearing the Nigerian con artists he went under cover to meet talking in Dutch over the phone, too he believed the boss, whenever he explained the difficulties raising the additional cash they required from him.

This was as he put it the only thing that pointed to possible Dutch involvement however he pointed out that he would be very surprised if any one would be silly enough to operate out of his/her own country.



racoonchic, if by racism you mean it is most specifically about the Nigerian race then I suppose it is racist but only in an accurate statement about the race of the main scam over e-mail system contributors.

In the sense of racism, as in bigotry, then no it isn't.

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 10:07

Sorry to go off thread folks but just have to ask proger1 if he is supporting Holland in the World Cup as I have just noticed his orange shirt.



Chris

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 10:18

I wonder what Msg 1 's motive was starting this post ?, as he is a Nigerian ?

Simbas

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 10:38

What is racist about saying someone is, or might be, a scammer??

Geoff

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 10:54

Chris, you should know better than that. It is not a shirt, it is my overalls for working offshore and I have the choice of orange or blue, company standard colours for offshore. Which would you think I prefer? I have requested Green, white and gold but for some reason they told me to stop being silly, I think they may be closet orangemen.



Glad to see you back darlin, hope you recover quickly and 120% better than before.



Paul

DONTY


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 534

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 11:04

msg 16: Never used foul language on this forum, but did recently get angry at someone for being anti muslim (without swearing) - I take it you dont mind a bit of racism now and again?

msg 19: Never tried to personally gain by touting for business on here unlike many others.

msg 27: You obviously were not quick enough to catch andrews post a few days ago. Ask Simbas what he wrote!

moorephey


Joined: 24/04/2010
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 14:36

Well i am a Nigerian and i confident enough to say i an not a scammer and never will be one nor a fan of a scammer. The question is that are Nigerians scammers?.... Well the truth is that there are people that are into scam in Nigeria as well as people that are not and will never support the idea which i can proudly say i am one who feels terrible hearing stories of people being scammed worldwide. It hurts when people stereotype about where you are from, calling Nigerians scammers, please do take note that not all Nigerians are scammers. Personally i feel bad as a Nigerian when people talk about this scams by people from Nigeria, but not as an individual. As an individual it only get to tarnish the image of Nigerians in general which one way or the other it is affecting the people who does not support the scammers. I hope people can stop stereotyping in general and see it that its not possible that all Nigerians are scammers... For the scammers ..God will punish you all severely AMEN

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 15:55

My friend (white) attends a Nigerian church in the East End of London - they do the most amazing work for the homeless and for people with alcohol problems. We never hear about the good stuff do we - just the bad unfortunately.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 22:46

msg # 31 you are absolutely correct in saying, that no one ever gets to hear the good stuff. Whilst in the restaurant trade, a rule of thumb is....if you give bad service to one person...that person will tell approximately 10 people, who will go on to tell another 5 people...etc etc....but, if a whole restaurant has a fantastic meal and superb service, they 'might' tell a friend or 2.....so by a law of averages...bad news really does go a lot further than good news...



I have lived in Africa, and i know by experience that the majority of these people have good hearts, and i would never judge them as a nation, however....the fact that these scams have been mostly perpetuated in, and from, Nigeria, does not bode well for these people, which is an absolute shame, as i have only known good honest people from there!



ps...this does not mean i am an easy target (for ANY nationality) to harvest my email address and send out spam emails!!





DD

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 22:54

Of course they are not scammers.



i got a lovely email from a Nigerian Prince the other day. His poor family have been wiped out and he has £25,000,000 dollars in a secret bank that he can't get access to because his deceased Father never left anyone know the account number. He said If I send him £5,000 and give him my bank details he will split the money with me. How kind is that? I feel really sorry for him.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 06:42

It is inaccurate to say that Nigerians are scammers, even though statistically, it may well be true that more scams originate from Nigeria than from any other single country.

You might as well say that all Welsh are Sheep shaggers - it's just not true, even though statistically.....

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 07:02

Didn't expect that kind of post from you Keith

Simbas

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 07:54

Well, I accept that Nigeria is not actually at the top of the scam rankings: -

http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/internet_scam_statistics.htm

But in support of my second statement: - http://www.tinyurls.co.uk/R6366

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 08:22

nsg 35,



You obviously don't know Keith, then....

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 08:31

Thanks Keith, I am rather surprised at some of the statistics about the scams and the fact that the nickname for this type of scam is the Nigerian letter scam does tend to lead you in the wrong direction.



The second link, not so surprising, I am after all from Aberdeen

p4aul


Joined: 12/10/2007
Posts: 71

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 09:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXzUde5DMUo

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 10:12

Only by his postings vaughan , have never heard him use crude words before that's all .

Simbas

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 10:42

It's just a WORD

What word would you have used to make the point? - given that it is a term in common useage: -

http://www.tinyurls.co.uk/E6370

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 10:48

Just a little surprised Keith , i had never heard you use that kind of word before .

take care , Patricia

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 11:45

Pat,

I'm sorry if my use of the word offended you - it was not my intention to offend anyone, not even Welsh people, who have heard it so many times that they're immune!

If I offended anyone else........



You'll have to join the queue

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 12:24

Someone told me, don't know if correct, that the word "scam" is Nigerian for crook.

Geoff