disability living allowance

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 14:48

A pensioner friend is thinking of moving over. at the moment she receives disabilty living allowance in UK. Will this stop once she moves here.

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 15:07

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/Introductiontofinancialsupport/DG_073387

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 15:11

You do have to inform them if you are leaving UK for more than a month.

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 15:25

Northern Cyprus is in the EEA.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 15:44

I should bloody well think so.! your having a laugh living in the sun and too sick to work back home? or have i got it wrong.?





Spider,X

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 15:48

Try getting a sick note from a doctor here that might do the trick. )







Spider,X

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 16:09

Although I do not receive any benefits myself, I see nothing wrong with a genuinely disabled person receiving benefits here. Sometimes moving to a warmer climate can be benificial to some people with arthritis and other muscular and joint problems. This person who is making enquiries is a pensioner and wouldn't be working any way, so why shouldn't they be able to receive their disability allowance? I think you will find that there should be no problem with getting it here.





The butlers wife

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 16:31

If this person is a pensioner then they would be in getting care allowance..this is given to enable them to pay for care etc when needed.Its another ball game..I suffer with arthritis of the spine and was unable to work for just a few months before we came here,before we got on the plane i stopped claiming this which was the right thing to do,I belive that is why are trying to retrain people now to enable them to work with their disabilities and to stop all the people thinking they can just claim for nothing..I am sure a lots of people over here go home often to reclaim sock and to see their GP..But pensioners are not able to claim the sick benefit..Please forgive me if i have my views all wrong.



Spider,X

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 16:36

Spider we forgive you, your views are just fine, if no one were to ask, no one would know, be a very quite old forum wouldnt it....... lol

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 16:43

Spider

Dont know where you are coming from " your having a laugh living in the sun and too sick to work back home",



The person in question is a disabled lady pensioner! so doubt, if like most disabled, she gets many laughs.



Are you thinking of incapacity benifit?

Disability allowance is 'if you need help looking after yourself or supervision to keep you safe' according to DWP.



What difference to the UK taxpayer does it make if you get £50 a week towards getting someone to help you bathe or eat properly whether it is in the Uk or in TRNC.

Sitting in a wheelchair in Girne or in London ,doesnt cost us anymore in taxes

But TRNC is not in EEA even if it was ,not all the allowances are transferrable

.Denizen,

Hope your friend manages to get her time in the sun,and maybe a bit of extra comfort in her waning years.

You can check on allowances what and where abroad, here.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Dl1/Directories/DG_174888

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 16:51

She should have no problems and wonder as to why the question was asked in the first place as once she has been given that allowance it is for life and not even looked into any further,so good luck and best wishes to her. )





Spider,X

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 16:55

The UK has always had facilities available for the disabled to retrain for other work via the employement services. I have sucessfully trained many people with office skills, clerical work and computing. These were registered disabled ie in wheelchairs, muscular dystrophy, deafness, blind etc etc etc. However, this also includes people who are injured and cannot do the same job. Some of the adulst I re-trained and got into work were: Nurses who had injured their backs moving patients, Heavy Goods Drivers who could no longer get into/drive/load an HGV Vehicle, Electrician who could not longer work in that trade due to an accident (has worked for several years in the Benefits Office), Physically disabled who have trained to work to suit their disability ie Cerebral Palsy - she got a Level 2 NVQ and a job in an office. Disfigurement(s) also did re-hab, NVQ 1, NVQ2 and then got a job with a local authority. THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK - WILL those who don't WON'T!!!!

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 19:08

Hildy

Come on, the lady is a disabled pensioner asking a question. Do you really say she should retrain.Do we really need a 'any one without a job ,disabled or not, just doesnt want to work' thread.



You are lucky all the people you retrained got work .at the moment there are just over 5 people unemployed for every vacancy,so obviously there is positive discrimination in respect of those you trained., Local authority jobs, are you kidding ,public sector vacancies?You would need to shoot someone! They have been sacking people and are talking about 25% further reduction.

5 people chase every job!. Work out the math. 5 into one doesnt go.

5 people apply only 1 gets it, the other 4 are still wasters?

You can only do a job thats there! Next year the umeployment level is predicted to rise to 3.5 million.When are people like yourself going to realise ,while there are many people who are wasters, the main problem in the UK is that manufacturing is in decline , less jobs, Solve that!!

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 19:51

msg 5; no spider, you haven't got it wrong, not from your viewpoint anyway. Jan is 67 and worked full time until retirement at 60. If she isn't entitled to it she won't claim it. She visited TRNC and said she felt more comfortable than she'd felt for years.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 19:58

msg13,

You touched upon, but didn't really emphasise the REAL point, which is that the lady is a PENSIONER - she SHOULD NOT, and CANNOT be made to work...

The rest of the huff'n'puff generated by others is irrelevant!

One last time, in case you missed it folks - SHE'S A PENSIONER - P E N S I O N E R !!!!



p.s. I put the 'smiley' on the end to disguise this post as 'humour' - but I don't really think that I fooled anyone...

Jimmyboy63


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 400

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 20:49

Mess 12

THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK - WILL those who don't WON'T!!!!



Are you a Doctor???...there are people who would love to have a job but are so badly disabled they cannot work.



So please stop writing RUBBISH as if you are some sort of authority on this subject

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 20:57

Girne 29

Message 8 stated:

'I belive that is why are trying to retrain people now to enable them to work with their disabilities and to stop all the people thinking they can just claim for nothing..'

My posting was in response to this. Having been a teacher and trained the unemployed for 35 years including disabled, disadvantaged and long term unemployed, my response was to provide information on the above subject, not insult the intelligence of others with flippant remarks, which appears to be a common occurance on here.

If the cat fits - wear it!!!!

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:18

And so a simple posting for information ends in the usual Cyprus 44 slanging match!!!

HildySmith


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Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:20

Jimmyboy63

'there are people who would love to have a job but are so badly disabled they cannot work', I totally agree with you and I met a lot of these people when I worked in a training centre for the disabled. Like one guy called Alan who was a time served brick layer and at the age of 50 became a diabetic and at 53 became totally blind. He came to us because he could not find any work - no one would employ him for anything. He trainined on a computer and learnt how to use the special equipment which we used for the blind and partially sighted. Which included extreme magnication for the partially sighted and voiced systems for the totally blind. He not only proved himself to be excellent at these but also helped all the other trainees who needed to use this kind of equipment. He then trained as a trainer and got a job training blind and partially sighted people and got many of them into jobs such as computing and switchboard work to name 2 occupations.

No I am not a Doctor

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:23

Forgot to add

I am just a pensioner!!!!!

HildySmith


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Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:24

Oh

Forgot to add to

I am deaf!!!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:38

I think the allowance for a pensioner who needs assistance is called attendance allowance and it is given to people to enable them to help pay for their needs to be met..Once obtained it is not taken back.



Spider,X

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 21:47

Under 65 claim Disability living allowance if you need someone to help with personal care and can include mobility allowance over 65 claim Attendance allowance after 65 you cannot claim the mobility part.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 22:04

spider message 8



I think you are still confusing disability with incapacity. Incapacity is the one that is open to more abuse ,its really the old stautary sick pay plus additions and kicks in when like you ,one is unable to work and you have reached the companies sick pay limit or have no sick pay. Its to allow you to get by till you get back to work. Disability kicks in if it looks like you might never return to work.

Your claim before you came to NC,it was for incapacity and not disability surely.

You do not get disability unless there is no real chance of you returning to work without a lot of help and not in the near future. You have to be disabled for a considerable time before you can claim it,whereas incapacity is from day 1.



Hildy

I might have been a bit sharp, but I see first hand how blanket statements about being disabled but not wanting work can hurt, especially on someone who has worked hard prior.

Anyway, get the fit jobs first.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
28/06/2010 22:08

Hildy,

Tried the cat on, it meowed a bit, and left some dents in my head, but it didn't fit

have a nice night,

Keith.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 17:08

£5m benefits for disabled migrants who flew home todays UK paper. 2,000 claimants still get Disability Living allowance even though they have left the country. £6,305 a year is to pay for carers, they have returned to Eastern Europe and will continue to receive the benefit ater a European Court ruled that the Government must keep paying. A Czech Woman applied for the benefit after arriving in Britain in 2005 she received it in 2007 and then returned to Prague she gets over £100 week all she has to do is get a letter from her doctor every two years, she said she could claim from her own government but she wouldn't be paid nearly so much!

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 19:39

keith - be careful or you'll let the cap out of the bag



Jean