Orams on Homes From Hell again 08/07/10

TimothyCadman


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Message Posted:
05/07/2010 16:48

The Orams will be appearing again this week in Homes From Hell on ITV1 on Thursday 8th July 2010 at 9pm UK time.

Let's hope it doesn't do to much damage to the TRNC whilst it's in this weakened state.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 16:57

Timothy we all know it will.yet again its going to highlight the problems here..What else could it do ?





Spider,X

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 17:01

and so much to highlight now, what a platform x

jakki



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Posts: 865

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 17:13

Well it's a cheap to make tv programme!!

girne 29


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Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 20:45

Would have thought that Homes from Hell would be better doing a programme on the mortgage auctions rather than something that has been settled and wont happen again. The Orams case is history, but the property frauds are in the here and now.

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 20:59

The whole fear of what would happen in the wake of the Orams decision going against Linda and David seems to have been forgotten. There are much more real issues here.

There is an enemy within. Forget the Greek Cypriots without. If many of the builders and landowners hadn't played every trick in the book to con people out of cash, this country could be doing very well thank you, today. The government and the individuals involved didn't want it and TRNC PLC is reaping the rewards today. No national airline, general strike today and more in the offing. And not one of the current problems caused by the GCs.

Tootie


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Message Posted:
05/07/2010 21:16

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/homesfromhell/week27/default.html

Tootie


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Message Posted:
05/07/2010 21:24

Homes From Hell contacted the owner of the land who said that people buying property in Northern Cyprus should understand that it is like buying goods from the back of a lorry, because they might belong to someone else.



Nice to read ITV are patriotic....

barnaclebill


Joined: 12/12/2008
Posts: 303

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 22:19

Having watched last weeks Homes from Hell I would say that the TRNC is a ripple in major scams going on against foreigners.It foccussed on Dubai, in an example given the builder who ripped off millions lives in the UK ,nice posh pad,etc,etc and the british government cant help the brits who he has ripped off unless a request comes from Dubai.They have been left with no hope of refund and nothing even started.It also showed the Brit who ripped off Brits in South/Cyprus who are left with a hole in the ground and no chance of any refunds,he is now working in Dubai

BB

Hector


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Message Posted:
05/07/2010 22:28

Hardly surprising that the Orams feature in the program. Can't see what patriotic has to do with it.

HildySmith


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Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
05/07/2010 22:40

It has already been said, the Oram's case is in the past.

The problem here is the long term one of the con-men who are landowners and builders. It people stop buying off plan then they might learn their lesson. I did and I would never do it again.

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 00:15

would it be worth contacting television producers inviting them to do a programme on north cyprus and the legislation here, which has previously been discussed at length ,and amounts to criminal offences but ignored by the government. Or would it do more harm than good not forgetting the complete shambles the collapse of Cyprus Turkish airlines left for everyone and tourists vowing never to come back.



We all want north cyprus to survive and go forward but I dont know how, as its not for the lack of people trying but the powers to be taking us backwards

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 10:11

Is the orams case in the past?

Did the govement here pay the legal bills and compensation ordered by the U.K courts ?

I have been looking on line but haven't found the answers yet.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 10:37

How about ITV doing a show on the majority of people here who are happy, positive, and love life here, and how much better it is than the UK,



Don,t think so, Bad news sells newspapers, and alike.



Says it all about UK television,

johnnybgoode


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 252

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 13:35

i bet they won't do an investigation on corrupt builders in the south of the island,??

as there goverment wouldn't allow it.

paddypony


Joined: 14/07/2009
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 13:51

re msg 14 and 15. Please then follow the email link on the ITV site, msg 7 and ask them to produce a balanced report........



here; 'lyndsey.weatherall@itv.com'



may just be in time do do something before it goes out on Thursday?

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 18:37

message 14 and 16

The programme investigates rip offs etc, thats its sole purpose.

'Homes from Hell' warns people not to buy, or if they do, to take account of what is going on.Its not making a political statement or acting as a property promotion or to promote tourism. Plenty of those programmes already.

People do not need to be warned about how good things are.



Bit like asking why they make programmes like 'Rogue Traders' and then not interview people who have had good work.



As for the Orams case, most people in the UK would follow the line about cheap property and its risks, therefore serves you right. .Its fighting a losing battle. .A programme about the mortgage frauds would however do more to garner sympathy for us.

Far better to organise a political based programme to explain the unfairness of how the TC's have been treated .

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 19:03

|Yes I am aware of the programme, But very often the majority get type cast by the minority.



If people like negative TV, why not just tune in to Eastenders

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 19:17

Those unfortunate people posting about their negative experiences [especially regarding 'lawlessness'] should be owed a debt of gratitude for being positive in their sincere and timely warnings to others - should they not?

girne 29


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Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
06/07/2010 23:00

johnnylee



'If people like negative TV, why not just tune in to Eastenders '



Eastenders- more like suicidal than negative.

newlad



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Message Posted:
06/07/2010 23:02

Is the programme a repeat,

Paul.

andy-f


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Message Posted:
06/07/2010 23:49

no paul its a new one



andy

newlad



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Message Posted:
07/07/2010 07:54

Cheers Andy,

Paul.

girne 29


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Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
07/07/2010 13:10

The Dubai programme was commenced a year ago ,so we can presume the Orams programme will also be out of date if shown now.



There is an e-mail address for anyone wishing to inform the programme makers of problems.

I have e-mailed and suggested that rather than concentrate on something that the ECHR has now made a non event in the future,they should do a programme on the property auctions and also include the whole of the Cyprus and the scandals in the South as well.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
07/07/2010 21:52

Whats the point of showing a programme that will be a year out of date.Now if was about the Cyprus talks then it wouldnt have mattered a jot,

Paul.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
07/07/2010 22:04

I'm sure the programme will include the last ECHR ruling and the stand off that now exists. As with the Dubai programme statements were spoken and captions shown as to the state of affairs as of the situation at the time of final editing at the beginning of June. I'm sure that the Orams case will get the same sort of ending as it's still an on going situation and will be for many years to come.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
07/07/2010 22:07

The TRNC has damaging and really important issues in respect of buying property.



To make light of it, insults honest peoples intelligence.



It is only by taking issue publically and within the law, will we be heard.



Cyprus 44 has a part to play, and does so on occaisions.



Perhaps they should review their portfolio of the most sought out properties.



It is difficult but only by keeping up the pressure will we overcome.



wyn

Birdsong


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
08/07/2010 15:46

Some FACTS for you all:

The Orams were filmed for this programme in January when they had just lost the case. It has taken this long for the programme to come on air.

It includes the ubiquitous clip of the Turkish Army landing in 1974 but it is not anti the TRNC, it simply states what the Greek Cypriot has forced them to do.

And, yes, the Orams Case is in the past for all of you but NOT for the Orams. The lawyers continue to negotiate the costs due, a charge remains on their house in England and demolition of the Lapta property has been officially refused. They have a long way to go yet.

And don't forget, whatever the suffering experienced by Brits in the TRNC whether from unscrupulous builders, banks or vengeful Greek Cypriots, the stress, pain and financial loss is equal for all whatever the cause.

The Orams Case may be "in the past" but if a Greek Cypriot has enough money, it could still happen to someone else despite The Immovable Property Commission. Cont...............

Birdsong


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
08/07/2010 15:49

Just one more point.

Apostolides, the Greek Cypriot who won the case always said he didn't do it for the money but for his mother.

So............I wonder if he has donated the thousands and thousands he has already received to a worthwhile charity in his mother's name? I bet he hasn't!!!

cyprusairsoft



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Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
08/07/2010 15:54

wont watch it does not help our cause all negatives the islands in enough trouble at the mo