OFFICIAL:J LO has withdrawn!

cazim


Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 03:47

They have done it once again. My hatred towards them has gone up 3/4 notches. There really, will never be a resolution involving living together.



http://www.jenniferlopez.com/news/official-statement-regarding-cyprus-appearance

john1234


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 321

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 05:13

Very dark indeed...

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 05:35

Jennifer Lopez would never knowingly support any state, country, institution or regime that was associated with any form of human rights abuse. After a full review of the relevant circumstances in Cyprus, it was the decision of her advisors to withdraw from the appearance. This was a team decision that reflects our sensitivity to the political realities of the region.

Ends...



Well the 'political realities have' surely passed her and her 'team' by!

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 06:10

GET YOUR FAT ARSE OOT OF HERE j lo

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 06:11

What's she doing in your bedroom Rick?

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 07:00

Obvious what nationalities are representing her "team". Wonder how much she is going to receive for not attending.



Anyone know her e-mail address, time to bombard her with the truth.

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 07:24

Maybe she just found out that the luxury hotel she was due to stay in still wasn't finished in typical North Cyprus style?

booitsme


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 667

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 07:50

It's about time someone posted her a copy of the Genocide Files!!!!

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 08:23

Absolutely in agreement with remark about The Genocide Files, a must read for anyone who has any doubts about the realities of 1974 and before. The sad truth though is that propoganda always seems to win in the end.

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 08:35

Maybe its time for the TRNC to play dirty. In view of the fact that most if not all the tickets for the opening were already allocated. Why did the organisers not keep the performers identity quiet until just before the event?

Going public with all this has given the usual suspects time to get organised and mount a campain to disrupt any events that they want too. The football match last year and the Golf tournament at Korinium are just two events that have been disrupted. I know that some of these events need to be advertised well in advance but the J LO event was one that could have been done a little more secretly. After the event by all means get the news into the press but its time to be as devious as the ' dark side '.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 08:43

I'm not sure not having J-Lo is a great loss to most of us, particularly as we couldn't get tickets to see her (not that I wanted to).

However, the TRNC has had a lot of publicity out of this, thanks to the GCs, and hopefully awareness about the situation here will have been raised in people who knew nothing about the actual situation here. It has certainly put TRNC back on the map, and we have to thank the GCs for their unwitting assistance in this.

If J-Lo hands the money back, the TRNC will also have had 3 million dollars worth of PR for nothing.

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 09:00

The new Hotel would be better off signing up our own Brian Delaney who would only cost them a few hundred quid, his entrourage is only about 5 and as far as I know does'nt have a huge 'Arse' !!

Tony

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 09:08

I can honestly say with hand on heart that i knew she would never play this particular gig in Northern Cyprus.Its about time some mouth piece stood up and yelled about the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.What do the outside world think really goes on here.It does prove one thing though and that is the island will never be united.It really does make my blood boil,

Paul.

bridie


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 308

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 09:13

Message 7 more to the point!!

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 09:52

So clearly she support invading and occupying Iraq - USA and UK being culpable in the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people - and the destruction of thousands upon thousands of families and their lives - for the sake of removing one despot and his equally despotic sons - which could have been carried out surreptitiously - the country has been destroyed and women taken back centuries..........I wouldn't even say she has double standards (that's a given) but she is clearly mindless - as other people make decisions for her.........shameful

SunSetMarine


Joined: 24/03/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 10:08

Perhaps Bex Marshall or Feedback could replace her after all they are the "best" according to Paradise next door and they'd only have to hop over the fence

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 10:33

Well J Lo has certainly been suckered in by the bad guys. Spending a few dollars on independent research might have saved her making a fool of herself. Maybe one day she will learn the truth, but people like her live in cloud cuckoo land and do more harm than good in the real world.







Patientia est a donum superum

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:12

I can do a good JLo impression. Can I have the 3 million euros instead? ;-)

StGeorgeI


Joined: 27/08/2009
Posts: 973

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:14

Well I didn't see that coming!!!! (DOH)



As soon as the Greeks jumped on this it was never going to happen. As per normal someone has buckeled under the political pressure put on them but the GC propoganda machine - and they say they are all for a settlement... MY ARSE (or should that be J'LO's Arse)!!!



Not sad that J'LO isn't coming as I don't really rate her and wouldn't have seen her - however it would have been good publicity for the isand, so on that front it's a real shame.



On the flip side the Greeks have shown their true colours once again - surely the powers that be, in the EU and the UN, must wake up soon?!?!?



G

sloan



Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 808

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:18

I disagree StG1. Much as I hate to say it, I think that the GCs have shown their strength, unity and organisation. Until the TRNC, ex-pats, TCs throughout the world and Turkey itself, can show similar organisation, I fear that we are doomed every time a similar GC led campaign is waged.

yıl


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:19

Thank you for taking care of Turkish Cypriot human rights people....

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:20

message 17.



you took the words outta ma mouth



i wonder who can be a replacement?



What amazes me is the power of the internet.

MrsSnakes



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 1100

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:24

Snakes looks good in a skirt.......................

Jodienjon


Joined: 12/05/2010
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:25

I wonder if we kicked up a stink if they had famous people going there side if things would get cancelled?



Why have they got to have such a say in what happens here?



Its ok for them to come over here and do a bit of shopping and drive around so why cant other people.



She might be famous but she is still a human being going on tour and a holiday!

mozgor



Joined: 16/06/2010
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:34

The only sad thing about this is the fact that Greeks have won again not the fact that J Lo isn't performing, her loss.

mozgor



Joined: 16/06/2010
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:39

You know what, there are a few comments on here about the fact that TRNC doesn't retaliate to the Greeks opposition. I totally agree, but that's one of the things I really like about TRNC, it has dignity. However, I would love and I mean love to see some counter argument coming out of the north cos I am sick to death reading and listening to all the Greek s**t!

StGeorgeI


Joined: 27/08/2009
Posts: 973

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 11:53

MSG 20 sloan - That may be the case and I agree that the Turkish Cypriot Voice should be a lot louder - that's why everyone who is taking the time to comment on this thread should also make a point on the J'LO website... there's plenty of GC's making comment on there. No one will hear you voice on here other than us lot!



However, despite their show of "unity and strength", they have also shown AGAIN that they have no desire for equality with TC's and surely, at some point, the rest of the world must wake up to this.



The reason we are doomed everytime a campaign like this is waged is because in the eyes of the world the TRNC is here as an occupied area and the GC's have official control over the island. People look at the political situation not the true history. That's why a similar event in the Souith would never be cancelled under the same circumstances NO MATTER how loud the TC's shouted!!



G

sloan



Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 808

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 12:00

Legality does enable them to take the moral high ground so much easier, but the TRNC supporters need to be far more organised, mobilised and vocal. However, even though TRNC life is generally wonderful and we really enjoy being there, there just seem to have been a series of unfortunate happenings that have put a dampner on many people's feelings and it will be difficult for some people to want to support a country that has been such a negative experience for them.

nikegirl


Joined: 19/02/2010
Posts: 162

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 12:02

this is an absolute joke! i can't believe she is pulling out of the performance because of the one sided lies from the greeks.



oh well i still have an invitation to the opening of creatos and i'm sure it will be just as good without J Lo there!



it will be interesting to see if the other celebs such as roberto cavalli still show up now...

DONTY


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 534

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 12:06

I'd say reunification chances just took 2 steps back. The vitriol coming from the GC position once again exposes their true feelings towards those they have to share this island with.

On another note I think music took two steps forward as J Lo is utter pants. Cant we get Madness or the Specials here?

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 12:10

Donty, there aren't two steps back left to take.

Aysesdaddy



Joined: 21/03/2009
Posts: 392

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 12:34

msg 30. I do not believe that re-unification will ever be successful as long as the bitterness remains. It should be remembered that the Turks came in to liberate the Turkish people from the tireny that was being inflicted upon them by the Greek Cypriots. I truely believe if the Turkish army hadn't arrived that alot of Turkish families would not be here today. Maybe the way forward would be to become a state of Turkey.

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 12:39

msg 32.

There would be no Turkish Cypriots left in Cyprus, as there were no Turks left in Crete. A state of Turkey - only as a last resort.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 14:49

geoff is right dont announce it till about a day before they are due to arrive grreks wont be able to stop it in time then



best post i saw by greek on facebook was actually enjoying the americans and british being killed in hellmand provice shows what a nice lot of tossers they are. what that had to do with jlo ive no idea

cyprusjoker


Joined: 29/08/2009
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 14:53

Exactly Cyprusairsoft, Bunch of Twats..!!

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 14:58

Maybe the promoter should sue he fat arse all the way to the bank for dropping him in it.

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 15:12

Or maybe all record shops and anyone with any Jlo music they've bought in Turkey or TRNC should all be asking the record company for their money back, see how she feels then about her political standing.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 15:42

She probably wont have had a say in the matter,and was used as a political pawn,

Paul.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 16:13

If she turns ip on my doorstep I will shut the door in her face!

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 16:27

Does this mean I won't be able to stay in the J-Lo suite?

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 16:38

I hope her rabbit dies and she cant sell the hutch,

Paul.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 16:44

Does stew like rabbits ozzie,

Paul.

Marisa


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 545

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 16:50

Sloan is absolutely right, we are not united in comparison with the Greek side.



At least to sign a petition with our point of view and send it to J-Lo, this idea came to me too late.



Perhaps it is not too late ?

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 19:40

as for Cratos not advertising this until it was almost the day of, I think they may be a little smarter than we're giving them credit for. They had to know there would be a GC campaign. As a result, they get the prestige of booking a massive international act, knowing that whatever happens they are going to either a) put on a J-Lo show and please their VIPs or B) Get all their money back from the booking (plus a cancellation fee, most likely) and a HUGE amount of free publicity. Think about it. How many UK or US newspapers would be writing about Cratos were this controversy not occuring? Hell, they probably did better out of the deal than they would have had she played. They were never going to be pulling in the GC/Greece tourists, and now millions of people have read about them that they might actually book into the hotel.

Civilised


Joined: 09/07/2010
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
09/07/2010 20:14

Are you guys actually serious? From what Ive read here Ive been left with my jaw on the floor. Are you serious? Talking about genocidal Greeks? You have no idea about your history then?



Yes the world see's Turks as good natured, clean and civilised and the Greeks as barbarians yes? How deluded can a people be? From reading the homepage as well as other "Turkish Cypriot" sites I see you try to use the same tactics. "Welcome to Cyprus with its rich neolithic, Byzantine and Roman history" Do you think the world is naive? You think they dont know about the Hellenistic period? Do you think they dont know who the Byzantines were with their famous weapon of Greek fire? Alexander the great was Bulgarian according to you guys as well. You are so transparent and jump onto any anti-Hellenic bandwagon. What gets me is that you actually feel hard done by. Go East Anatolians, Mongolia is that way > No reunification. You guys in EU will just fill Kypros with settlers as you already have done.

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 00:25

Civilised MSG 48.

Are you taking the p*ss ? or are you trying to give some kind of excuse for the Greek Cypriot attempt to take over the whole Island and kill all Turkish Cypriots whilst doing it, it's common knowledge that Turkish troops had to help Turkish Cypriots as they had been refused help from Britain and Harold Wilsons government, please don't use the excuse of things that happened hundreds of years ago to justify the genocide that was attempted by Macarios and the Greek cypriots, the evidence speaks for itself, there will never be re-unification of Cyprus because the Greek Cypriots only want the Island for themselves, Enosis my ar*e

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 02:35

@msg 48. They're either an idiot or worse, seeing as how they've identified the plural "you" at Cyprus 44 as mostly TCs. Clearly they've done their homework.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 03:09

msg 48;

Is below link you by any chance?



http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages#!/profile.php?id=1404723906

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 03:22

or even this one......



http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages#!/?page=1&sk=messages&tid=1523803779432

Civilised


Joined: 09/07/2010
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 07:33

Msg 49 It just seems hypocritical Turks accusing anyone of genocide. Keep denying Armenia as that is also common knowledge. I see Cyprus as a Greek island of course. All the town names are Greek and you still use the Greek names. Not to mention Turkeys west coast. End of the day Turks in Cyprus are Ottoman settlers, a lot of time has past and people are people the two sides got along fine for decades and Cyprus was an example of humanity.You lost people as my family members were murdered, civilians, my familys land was taken, our churches desecrated or converted to mosques while your mosques still stand and are respected. The world does not recognise what you call the TRNC and Greeks would be aggrieved at this laughable attempt for recognition. So JLO's birthday coincidentally falls on the anniversary of the invasion. To be broadcasted to the world. Transparent. And please dont gloat about Turkeys huge victory capturing half a tiny island with not even a million population!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 08:03

Civilised/Msg 53:



When I lived in Paphos, the Greeks used the mosque in Moutallos as a sh1thouse - the mosque in the *Turkish village opposite to the Greek village where I lived was razed to the ground and everything plundered by the Greeks - so don't talk TRIPE!



*The TC's were gunned out of the village by EOKA.



One one occasion, when passing a mosque that you Greeks were desecrating and attempting to demolish, I called the UN, who came and put a stop to it.



Be careful what you post - it has a habit of backfiring - often not to your liking!

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 08:19

Go away uncivilised, this is one forum that will not stand for your lies and misinformation.



Patientia est a donum superum

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 08:36

My intelligence challenged friend, before you start spouting facts from the Greek book of propaganda and hate you need to read up on the facts.



When has Cyprus ever been Greek?, you are Cypriot that happens to speak Greek, and before you further get your black trousers in a knot, the West coast of turkey had Greek speaking settlements, and you further conveniently forgot to mention the Turks that lived on the Greek islands.



I suggest you confine yourself to the South side board where you can join the other degenerates that vomit their hatred with impunity.

Civilised


Joined: 09/07/2010
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 14:49

Wow you really are deluded, Turkish Greek islands. Cypriots just speak Greek theyre not actually Greek? Turks dont belong in Turkey/Asia Minor. They are Mongols as you know this fact. Nomads from Mongolia that colonised Asia Minor. The Greeks were there thousands of years before you came to our region. Cyprus has been controlled by many different powers, however the people were always Hellenic, thats why they always spoke the language, the Cypriot dialect is very close to ancient Greek. The ancient monuments are almost ALL Greek. As with the Western coast of Turkey. Soon Turks will demand autonomy in Germany and other European states. Greeks colonised this whole region way before Turks invaded the region. Your propaganda is laughable. Ephesus was Roman not Greek you teach tourists, I suppose Istanbul as well. By the way "Ist-in-pol" Greek for "To the city" How stupid do you have to be to name the place To the city? You seen the Turkish ads on tv? All Greek stuff! Even Icons LOL!

Civilised


Joined: 09/07/2010
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 17:36

Btw msg 56, now that you mention the Turks living on the, yes GREEK islands, lets talk about that...



Gokceada and Bozcada (actually Imvros and Tenedos, even the Turks called the islands Imvroz/Tenedeoz)



had a 99% Greek population in the 50s........there down to less than 1 percent--- NO COMMENT.



Theres basically no such thing as a Turkish island. All of them, even the Prince Islands in the Sea of Marmara were dominated by Greeks.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 18:01

YAWN.. OH Crap.. I tried to stay out of this - as I can never win.. so I might as well 'upset' everyone..



'Civilised' - a very witty handle - really - it is indeed a shame that the Greek invention of Democracy evolved into many mainland Greek withholding tax to the state - unless really civilised nations citizens......



BTW you need to brush up on the origins of Genocide.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide#Coining_of_the_term_genocide - it most certainly doesn't originate with reference to the ill treatment of Armenians by Ottomans - the word came about 30 years later.



BTW the Chinese claimed to be civilised long before the Greeks !..



..and it's IstAnbul ( note A not i)



The relevance of Greece to Cyprus in present day is a membership of the EU and a 'dialect' of Greek that sounds horrible to a REAL Greek..



Could we all drop the Greece v Turkey debate and think about a way J-Lo might celebrate in Cyprus and be welcomed by all?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 18:14

The Italians ( Romans ) aren't claiming Britannia as theirs -nor are the Vikings - the French ( Normans) .... get my drift ?



When everyone can accept that most tribes have played some negative role in Cyprus and that the longer things continue as they are - the less likely they will change - we MIGHT get some improvement.



HINT : The Greek Cypriots should have agreed to the earlier versions of Annan - before Liealotopoulos 'washed his hands' and allowed the UN to fill in the blanks.. I doubt GCs will ever get a better deal.



The recent ECHR rulings reflect this trend ( allowing local remedies on behalf or TR on Cyprus re property ) and why the HELL GCs didn't flood the IPC with claims - I'll never know..

Civilised


Joined: 09/07/2010
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 18:19

Yeah thanks for that link found it interesting. Especially this part on genocide denial.



"For example, several European countries ban denying the Holocaust, whilst in Turkey it is illegal to refer to mass killings of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire towards the end of the First World War as a genocide."



That is just standard Turkish. How civilised. Keep denying, the world isnt as stupid.



Yes yes its IstAnbul not I but A Yes of course! Smirni became Izmir, Didima became Didim and Istinpol has no correlation with Istanbul. Face it, you heard people saying "To the city" and thought that was the name of the city. Smart. Next you'll tell me the ancient ruins are Turkish, including Agia Sofia. Tell me what does Agia Sofia mean in Turkish? You are settlers to the region, thats all.



JLO would not be welcomed by all and never will be unfortunately. If there was reunification, the whole island was in the EU, and Turkey joined as a result, theyd just overpopulate it with Turks. No way.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
10/07/2010 19:45

Dear 'Civilised'



just like too many folk you are being selective in choosing to ignore parts of my post ;)



>> You are settlers to the region, thats all<<



I settled in Limas(s)ol ... not the part of Cyprus where the 'recognised govt.' doesn't exercise effective control... btw ;)



Meaning of : Saint Sofia ('Hagia Sophia') Ἁγία Σοφία... it's the sort of wisdom we need in Cyprus...



'Re-unification', now will only be as part of a bi-communal, bi-zonal, federated state.. with autonomous regions ..



Please do check.. Greece is in FAVOUR of TR joining the EU ... and if Mr Erdogan hadn't tried to be 'smart' by failing to comply with a customs union he'd already agreed to.. [ stopping Cypriot planes / ships using TR ports / airports ] who knows .. Greek ( REAL Greeks ) would also have been able to live to choose where they like, too !