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MUSIN M


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looks like j lo is going to be sued for 100 million usd for cancelling her concert.





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Maybe the Greek Cypriots will pay for her solicitors



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Let me get this right .. J-Lo will be sued for 'breach of contract'... and consequential loss and / damages to the tune of 33 times her appearance fee ? ;)



Will the writ be issued by a court of 'TRNC' ?



It's not like Interpol are going to come after her



I'm QUITE sure her legal team looked at this angle before announcing she wouldn't come...



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Mus,

Were have you seen this,

Paul.



MUSIN M


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mmmm



are you quite sure her legal team has it covered ,maybe you are privet to items we are not .



and what has her fee got to do with the sum which has been announced ,it does not stop just at her fee .



i hope they are successful ,then maybe ,just maybe this stupid anomosity from the greeks may ,just may subside and allow us tc,s to continue to live in a fashion which you in your part of the world enjoy.





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j lo---- sounds like a Greek name to me.





Why dont we get a nice Turkish sounding girl like Shakira...........................................!



MUSIN M


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paul



it was just announced on the news on ada tv and cyprus genc ,i will keep you updated as it unfolds.





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Cheers Musin,

Paul.



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http://www.latina.com/entertainment/celebrity/jennifer-lopez-marc-anthony-being-sued-over-dangerous-doggie



Wont be the first time,

Paul.



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Perhaps her team should have done some better research before pulling out of the deal.A selection of comments from our friends in the South.



Shocked I hope she keeps a low profile and behaves herself... wouldn't want to end up with smashed ribs, black eyes, and sent back in a coffin!

So Lopez can keep her fat Latin arse out of it until then.

she is a mixed Mongol same as the Turks!

So now she is not only fat, washed up, second rate performer, but a poutana to boot!



Seems to me a case of we dont want but you cant have her either .This is just a selection of the comments it beggars belief that talks are still going on to re-unite a Island that has long been divided and would be better off remaining so. IMHO of course

BB



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I see that after nearly 1000 comments on her website, (mostly not very nice - but nonetheless true) that the "news" of her backing out has been taken off the website altogether. Hope it touched a nerve somewhere!



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slapper uff said



TinLondon


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It's even hit Sky News...



I think this hotel which has as many rooms (410) as an average Travelodge, has high hopes to fill it's top King suites at 35,000 Euros for just one week... This isn't Las Vegas!



http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Jennifer-Lopez-Threatened-With-40m-Lawsuit-After-Pulling-Out-Of-Turkish-Cypriot-Gig/Article/201007215663190?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15663190_Jennifer_Lopez_Threatened_With_%244



tattlad


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TinLondon msg 13.

That's just where you are wrong, do you know how many people fly into the TRNC every weekend to go to it's casino's ??? Obviously not.



TinLondon


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Msg 14.... Please tell me you really don't think more people go to the TRNC casino's that Las Vegas?



tattlad


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Msg 15. your missing the point, people are willing to fly here to use the casino's, this is the Las Vegas of the area.



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Is this where the term "Im gonna sue the arse off that ....." comes from?



TinLondon


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oh...ok....



I was just just trying to undertstand the justification on how any hotel in NC could charge so much for a room in comparison to others on the island.... It seems that this hotel has money to throw around, like a J Lo opening, it's a shame they couldn't have diverted some of their wealth to help tourists get to the hotel in the first place, by proping up the national airline.



tattlad


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Msg 18, Why should they waste their money on a doomed venture like that ??? if they lose money on their hotel then that's fair enough, but why you think they should be ploughing money into a badly run company that has nothing to do with them is a stupid notion.



TinLondon


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Well, maybe you should get your business head on...



I'm obviously saying all the wrong things here but it really is too hot to try and explain so I give up!



I still love J Lo, even if some don't!



tattlad


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Msg20.

Your business head needs to see a doctor if you think proping up someone elses ailing business with your money is good business.



Lilli



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it would appear that j lo has already been paid so righly the owners of the hotel want thier money back or for her to appear. They have asked her to reconsider x



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The TRNC does not need such a prima donna who clearly hasnt done her homework, tell her to get stuffed I say.



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Same, she can get stuffed! And I hope they do sue her!



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This is a win win situation for the hotel. The reason they pay so much to invite such a celebrity is that it works out much cheaper than paid advertisements. They have already achieved great publicity, far more than they initially planned thanks to the fanatical Greek Cypriots. So in effect they have done a favour to the hotel. the fact that they will get their 3m pounds back plus probably a good compensation is the extra extra on top of the cake. Well done Greek Cypriots, you are brilliant.

ismet



MUSIN M


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i would like also like to take this opportunity too thank the gc,s,keep up the good work.



onwards and upwards.





musin



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Lilli



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This government must be so pleased that they do not have to employ an expensive PR agency, When the GCs will do it all for free xx



mmmmmm



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Ismet ...re msg 25



Can you explain how J-Lo backing out of a gig - giving the reasons she did was 'good' publicity ?!!



Any action for 'compo' would surely have to be in the US - the hotel risks losing a lot of money ..with no guarantee of any settlement.



elko2



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msg. 28,

Marky,

As far as the hotel is concerned, it was a good publicity. As for all the lies that the GCs have been saying for years, it does not wash any longer. See the latest trend in the decisions of ECHR and the attitude of EU about the direct trade with north Cyprus under any name. This time it will not be really long before we have direct flights to Ercan.

ismet



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Hi Ismet,



Although I agree that recent ECHR rulings re the IPC and the possibility of direct trade ( the quid pro quo being 'rump' RoC getting the right to have their registered ships using TR ports and airplanes landing / overflying TR ) are positives for TCs ..I STILL don't think TCs 'won' out in the PR slog out - as J-Lo pulled out ..citing the reasons as she did...



I couldn't tell you the hotel name, but I'll bet a lot of people who knew 'B all' about Cyprus - now have an idea that GCs were ( overall) the wronged ones...



Reproman


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i have to agree with Ismet on this one



from a outsiders point of view, The Greeks kicking up an almighty stink over something as simple as a pop star opening a hotel is sending out the exact message we have know for decades.



And to think that people will sympathize with the greeks over this is absurd, apart from Greeks everyone else will look at them like a bunch of tossers at quick glance and anyone who looks into this further will think of them even worse!





They can all see now how the Greeks are using EVERY chance they get to keep Turkish Cypriots isolated. And turning every event into a political arena not matter how trivial





This event has for me had the BEST outcome, massive worldwide exposure, for all to see how badly the Greek are behaving.



Along side the recent outcome of the Orams case, forcing the EU to accept the IPC route, news seems to be getting better and better



The Greeks almost causing the collapse of the EU and then rioting on the streets like a



mmmmmm



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re msg 31



Oh Dear ( sighs) , I wonder how many Greeks 'cared'... you mean 'Greek' speaking Cypriots.. right?



The 'stink' might just be that the hotel is on land owned by a GC who can't use it..



J-Lo clearly sympathised... which is precisely my point ... the GCs have convinced her / her advisors that it wasn't 'pc' to attend..



Up until 2004 the TCs isolated themselves - thanks to their previous leaders - Since Annan thinks are changing, and GCs can't be totally blamed for voting NO, as they didn't believe that TCs / TR were prepared to compromise - not aided by their 'hawkish' leader who promised them a 'better' soln. - based on 'EU norms'...



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Hi Mark,



QUOTE



I couldn't tell you the hotel name, but I'll bet a lot of people who knew 'B all' about Cyprus - now have an idea that GCs were ( overall) the wronged ones...



UNQUOTE



Perhaps true but I think the important point is that for those who already knew something of the problem and are actively involved in it - eg UN officials and other diplomats - this is yet another instance of GC efforts to keep us isolated despite their continued protestations to the contrary.

That this was in primarily a cultural context casts them in an extremely vindictive and petty light. Maybe not in a layman's estimations, but for those continually observing the Cyprob it's yet another example of a consistently negative GC approach to us; a negative approach utterly unleavened with any constructive alternatives. Which might be why "direct trade" provisions keep being raised by outside parties.



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The UN and EU are in flagrant violation of the 'human rights' they pupport to uphold - it appears that by procrastinating in accepting that fact, and acting to remedy the situation of isolation and non recogition pertaining to TRNC, they obviously feel exonerated and therefore lack the political resolve to redeem themselves.



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Hi Gordon !



Can't disagree with anything you say, but the problem remains that the UN Security Council resolutions of 1983 ( re 'TRNC' ) are still in place - so GCs have a legal 'upper hand'..and consequentially they are on a hiding to nothing...



Too few people ( in or out of CY ) want to acknowledge all the factors and the mistakes of the past ..



It is dawning on GCs that the promises made by 'Liealotopoulos' [ Papadopoulos] were unattainable - when this might translate into something more productive, I can't say.



A 'Direct trade' in return for TR accepting the Ankara agreements protocols re RoC shipping / planes seems a fair compromise to me .. if it has to be forced on folk - regrettable in the short-term - it might focus some minds as to realities of the mistakes of the past



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re 35 Tenakoutou



Can you tell us (specifically ) how the UN / EU are breaching HR in Cyprus ?



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I hope the other celebrities will not take that big ass b... as an example.



and yes



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mark nice to see you getting back in the groove again lol



Cratos premier is that a greek word?



plenty of gc will be in the casino as they are here every evening anyway



bloody spacebar on this new laptop is a pain



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I really hope that common sense prevails and JLo isn't sued by the Turkish company which owns Cratos Hotel.



I don't think we'll win many friends around the world if we're seen as being so petty and desperate to sue a much-loved and internationally popular super star such as JLo. She has many fans and millions of admirers, even neutrals will take her side in this dispute (the general public don't really know the politics of Cyprus and how wrong JLo was to cancel). This law suit will not do the TRNC any favours.



Quite frankly, when i heard that JLo was going to be sued, i was embarassed. I just hope that this get off the news as soon as possible because it's showing us up.



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msg 39;

Lets play "reverse psychology",



What do you think she'd have done if it was the other way round?.......if Cratos Hotel was to book her,sign contracts and pull out without paying her!!!!!!!!



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She's sue 'em and nothing would happen -this being CY .. ;)



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ooops she'D .....



Keith007


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I agree that Cratos are well within their rights to sue JLO and they will no doubt recover a lot of money in damages if successful....it may be a good idea for the Turkish businessmen who own the Hotel but i'm looking at it from a public relations viewpoint and a law suit against a popular and much-loved super star will negatively effect the image of the TRNC ..



Any lawsuit will be seen as petty and desperate and will have the effect of driving international public opinion against us. The image of a "third world" country not being totally honest about a concert will be etched in the minds of millions of JLo fans, Americans and music-loving neutrals throughout the world.



A law suit may be worth it for the Turkish company involved but is it worth downgrading the image of TRNC by bringing a lawsuit against a much-loved American super star ? I don't think so....



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I don't understand what makes you think that a business sueing J.Lo for a breach of contract for non appearance after signing a contract to appear can reflect badly on the TRNC



yorgozlu



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"image of TRNC"



Would you have agreed for the group to sue her if it was elsewhere,ie.UK????



It has nothing to do with TRNC......pure bussiness.It is only our unfortunate "neighbours" with sour grapes that thinks this is a TRNC problem.



However,if I was the owner of the group,I wouldnt wait for a second.BUSSINESS is a BUSSINESS,and for some strange reason,I dont think anyone else (you) would be any different.



Keith007


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There will be a backlash against this lawsuit by JLo fans who will mobilise to tarnish the image of the TRNC - we had a few thousand the Greeks mobilising their propaganda against us but if the lawsuit happens, we'll have tens of thousands of JLo fans writing in forums and presenting a biased attack on everything to do with TRNC......millions of neutrals around the world will get a very skewed view about the TRNC and many will unfortunately buy into the "illegal state" view. if this lawsuit goews ahead then be prepared for a a swathe of anti-TRNC propaganda coming from not only Greeks but thousands of JLo fans....



Even the spoof article in the other thread is very negative towards the TRNC and Turks...expect more to come from journalists just waiting for an opportunity to ridicule and deride the TRNC as the "pariah third world state" and JLo fans and neutrals getting on the anti-TRNC bandwagon....



cyprusairsoft



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she is not now a much loved superstar in the north now re earlier post



yorg i like some of your stuff your a good guy and have the ability to make me laugh which is unusual for a turkish cypriot no offence intended to cypriots

give em hell yorg

regards john



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keith msg 46



i don,t know where i last read so much rubbish ,the kktc will be further tarnished ,it.s about time we challenged every thing the gc,s throw at us ,i say sue her .



if we carry on the way we are now ,the gc,s will continue to carry on as they please,they believe they can contain us indefinitely,and they will if we do not challenge them.



every time they throw a punch we must throw one back and stop just blocking them.





musin



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Reproman


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Or maybe when she is sued people will see that the reason behind this was because the Greeks made her pull out?

everything was fine until they casued trouble!



and yes i do mean ALL Greeks not just Cypriot Greeks,



you would be a fool to think that any of this is orchestrated by Greek Cypriots alone!

so please dont try and pretend otherwise!



another point, if her advisors were foolish enough to advise her to sign the contract in the first place, then they are equally foolish enough to advise her to cancel after a protest on a social network site!!



if anything she need NEW ADVISORS !!



FOR ME, the best outcome will be any worldwide publicity that comes out of this.

The Cyprus issue needs to rear is ugly head time and time again UNTILL IT IS RESOLVED!

Its only because there is no blood shed that it seems to be brushed aside in current world affairs.

and this is only THANKS TO TURKEYS PRESENCE ON THE ISLAND!!!



MUSIN M


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worldwide publicity





sounds good to me repro.





musin



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I read on the other forum that she cannot be sued because the contract was illegal, a bit like Orams perhaps I suppose since she was being asked to "trespass" on land the Greeks say is theirs.



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her management team are still at the hotel



Lilli



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http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages#!/jenniferlopez?v=photos&ref=search



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mmmmmm/Msg 36:



Surely you don't need me, or anyone else, to elaborate on the 'why's' & 'wherefore's'!



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