Trying to Export a Car

Sideways



Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 529

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 13:38

This place makes you pull your hair out at times (not that I've got much left).

Six years ago I imported my old Chrysler, paid all the taxes, arranged the import licence, arranged approval from the antiquaties office, etc. I was told that it wasn't compulsory to register it here as it was an historic vehicle and seeing as I refused to put MUDFLAPS on it, it wouldn't pass an M.O.T. anyway. Also it does not have seat belts, indicators, windscreen washers/wipers, only one rear light, even without these it will pass a U.K. M.O.T. because it's historic.



Now to export it, I have to arrange for an export licence and pay fines for the past 6 years for not registering it here (which in theory, I could not do anyway). I may have covered 100 miles in 6 years, a bloody expensive toy to bring over.

I'm sorry, but I feel that all governmental offices here just want to rip you off.



Pete.

baxi7


Joined: 23/09/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 14:20

i agree , they get your money , then you leave .

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 14:49

Hosgeldiniz Kibris!!!

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 14:52

>>>>>"I was told that it wasn't compulsory to register it here as it was an historic vehicle"<<<<<



msg 1;



By whom,may I ask?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 15:53

Drive the car over the Green line.... if you can -easier to ship it back to the UK via Lima(s)sol ..

Sideways



Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 529

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 16:04

Message 5,

I would do Mark, but I think they need to know where it came into the country, if not I'll do it that way.



Message 4,

The classic car club and the police!!!!!!! plus Tom, Dick & Harry.

DeaconB


Joined: 13/07/2010
Posts: 120

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 16:32

Is there a difference between historic and classic?

I thought that if a vehile was over 25 years old then it was not subject to import/export tax.



p.s. 6ms solution sounds sound.

Sideways



Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 529

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 17:32

You still pay import duties even over 25 years old, the only difference is that it is based on it's original selling price when new.

E.G. My car cost $1900 in 1929. There were $6 to £1 then, so they based the import duty on £316 !!!! It did take a while to prove it to them. So they stuck on something like $3000 because it's American.



A 1980 Rolls Royce Corniche was $360,000 when new, just think of the tax on that.



Mark.

Do you have any shipping agents numbers?

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 17:51

call a company called cutler freight in england, 020 8301 6626 mr dance.



ask him for a company in limmasol,i forget the name of the company in limmasol who they deal with ,but they have ships going back and forth to southampton regular

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 18:25

I suggest you phone *Hull Blythe [old, established freight forwarders] in Limassol - they shipped our vehicle to NZ.



It was quite a rigmarole, because we had to get the vehicle [Toyota Landcruiser] de-registered in some remote office in Nicosia, even though it was being shipped from Limassol - anything in Cyprus to cause one maximum inconvenience + expense where cars are concerned.



If you imported your Chrysler [I had a 1926 Chrysler in NZ!] through Kyrenia or Famagusta, the Greeks might be difficult. Why not ask * to make enquiries on your behalf? Sorry - I no longer have their telephone number - suggest you 'Google' *them!



Best of luck!

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 23:02

msg 6;



"Message 4,



The classic car club and the police!!!!!!! plus Tom, Dick & Harry"



I could help you,in fact I could get it out for you with no hussle at all,however with attitude like that I wont bother.



Best of luck.(think you'll need it)

Sideways



Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 529

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 23:32

Yorgozlu,



I'm sorry if I've offended you in any way but what I posted is the truth.



"The classic car club and the police!!!!!!! plus Tom, Dick & Harry"



When someone says "Tom, Dick & Harry" They are meaning, everyone who knows nothing. (An old English Phrase).

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 23:50

Yorgozlu, what's the matter with you? If you can help the man, kindly do it or I'll have you banned from the village. Muhtar is my friend I'll have you know.

graduate


Joined: 13/07/2010
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 00:34

Yorgozlu,

I assumed this forum was to help people, you must have the wrong forum.

I cannot see anything wrong with what has been written.

skybluesam


Joined: 24/12/2008
Posts: 447

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 11:19

Sali, Hi it's Nick, I can assure you Sideways in no way meant any offence, I think frustration is the word he is looking for, he is a close neighbour of mine and a nicer bloke you could'nt wish to meet.

Try and help him if you can, I know he needs it.

Will contact you early next week reg sound system.

Nick

DeaconB


Joined: 13/07/2010
Posts: 120

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 15:01

Why not take the ferry to Turkey on a day trip and just keep going until you reach the channel ferries. You could have a great adventure without the bureaucratic nightmare. If you don't fancy that arrange shipping from Mersin. You only need the old log book to re-register in UK.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 15:19

msg 13;



Yfred;

Just for you.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 15:48

re 5



I would do Mark, but I think they need to know where it came into the country, if not I'll do it that way.



When you ENTER the area of CY under 'rump' RoC control buy insurance .. Enter via the SBA - if you are worried about questions - all you have to prove is that the car is LEGAL / safe to drive in the RoC



Arrange shipping with a CY-UK shipping expert @ Limas(s)ol beforehand



Then you can simply arrange to have it shipped back to the UK - arrange UK insurance - and get it re-registered.. As the UK do not officially recognise the 'TRNC' the most important thing will be to show you always owned the car...



I expect you might have questions to ask if you return to the 'TRNC', though ...

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 15:59

re msg 8



IF you are allowed to cross to the south:



http://www.atecuk.com/car_shipping.html



http://www.shipping-international.com/companies/king-international-shipping-services.html



http://handyshippingguide.com/shipping-schedules/ferry-roro-services-to-from-the-uk/cyprus/limassol

baxi7


Joined: 23/09/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 12:47

pete , be very careful the same thing happened to me two years back . took a van over to the south - after 14 months could not get customs clearance or reg vehicle . trnc customs in nicosia keep record on computer , fine keeps running till duty or fine ( or both ) paid . tried saying vehicle broke , damaged scrap , spares , .

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 16:18

Come on Sal .. Remember me ..

Lets make a triangle .. Pete has helped me out .. I helped you to "limp" better .. Now you can make the triangle & help Pete ..

He could have said "Uncle Tom Cobley & all" .. Another English saying which roughly means the same ..

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 16:46

Hello Harry,hope you are keeping well.As for Pete,hands up I misunderstood his comments and I can assure you that I'll do whatever I can for him.

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 17:22

Thanks Sal .. just knew you would

Ayeofspirit1


Joined: 10/07/2010
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 18:53

Oh dear



I am getting a little worried (for myself & my husband) - having read the e-mails - despite te help & advice offered to Pete.



Reason for my worry - my hubbie & I are planning to drive through Europe into Turkey & then get ferry across to TRNC. The rationale being we will need a car for the 6months we are hoping to stay .



Have been informed we will have to pay import duty/tax but have had difficulty identifying how much & if it is excessive (i.e. equal too or more than we paid for car) then it may not be worth it.



The car is a 1800 Vauxhall Astra SRI & 2002 registration



Help advice would be appreciated



Anne (Ayesofspirit1)

scruff


Joined: 15/07/2008
Posts: 1070

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 19:11

2002 is too old to import the car anyway, unless you have owned the car for a very long time. Had you not realised this or read all the threads about this before?

Pete's issue is totally different. He imported his car as a classic & it is in every sense of the word. Now he wants to re-export it & is having difficulties.

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 19:35

Ayeofspirit1

If you intend to return to the UK no problem (unless you've imported a to TRNC car before) Just have 12 month tax and mot on it when you leave the UK

Look up driving to trnc on the search bar or post separately for further help

by the way welcome to the board

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
15/07/2010 23:43

sideways,



Its not that they are trying to rip you of, but its more of the fact that they have'nt got the relevant laws and regulations in place.

Its all good of them to enforce laws such as compulsory mudflaps on modern cars etc, but they fail to take into account what they will have to do in different situations, such as if a historic car such as yours, is around.



Because of this, you then pay the consequence, because, in theory, you do owe that money because you didnt pay for it - despite the fact that its their fault that you couldnt avoid NOT registering the car.



Its all a legislative issue.