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ilovecyprus


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Nami, the Special Representative of President Talat, in an exclusive interview, answered some crucial questions regarding the status of foreign property buyers.





According to Mr Nami, the property system will be similar to that outlined in the Annan Plan, and assured all foreign property buyers that they would not suffer any negative effects.







By Kerem Hasan



The Cyprus solutions process has been ongoing ever since the first meeting of President Talat and Greek Cypriot leader, Christofias on the 21st of March 2008. Following the formation of joint technical committees, there is a lot of speculation about the direction of the Cyprus problem, subsequent to various “joint statements” and “agreements” made between the sides.

In an exclusive interview with Ozdil Nami, he commented on the current solutions process, EU Law and the status of foreign and British property purchasers in Northern Cyprus. Nami drew attention to the fact that the rights of everyone will be safeguarded, and that any solution will be fully supported by the European Union, with derogations and transitional periods also being “recognised” by the EU and “embedded in the new settlement.”



Foreign buyer status

While asked as to the status of foreign buyers of property in Northern Cyprus, Ozdil Nami said that “the Annan Plan supported a property regime that was in line with international law, and sponsored by the United Nations. It was the product of many legal experts. The property rules in any new settlement plan will be very similar to the Annan Plan.”



Asked as to whether there were any developments on the issue of property, Nami said “the details on this issue are still being negotiated.”





Property regime stance

Whilst Ozdil Nami gave guarantees to foreign property buyers, stating that the property issue was being negotiated, he added “however we are not going to pretend as though no development has taken place in Northern Cyprus since 1974, I would like to reassure the British owners of properties in Northern Cyprus that the whole property regime, will be conducted in accordance with international law. This was the position taken by the Turkish Cypriots in the Annan Plan, which safeguarded their interests.”





EU derogation issue

Mr Nami also drew attention to the “primary law status and EU derogations on a Cyprus solution framework,” following Greek Cypriot attempts to turn the Cyprus problem away from the United Nations and into the framework of fundamental EU norms and values. Mr Nami said “there are many examples in the EU where there is a single sovereignty, a single citizenship and single international identity, which also was recognised under EU Primary law as being bi-communal and bi-zonal. Nami pointed out that the Belgian and Swiss models, were also bi-communal and bi-zonal, and were recognised by the EU.



“You will see that constituent states, cantons or federal structures in EU states are able to maintain their cultural identity” Mr Nami said.

























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cyprusishome


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As a pessimist sink!!!!!!! I do not believe any politician. Until the events occur I will not believe a word any of them say.



We live in our house on "illegal land" and will continue to do so until someone tells us different, sometime in the next 20 years!!!!!!!!!



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i think talat will sell you out! under international law in eu cases already heard, they gave the property rights to the original owners. i can't see turkey paying up, as they never have in the past. i wonder who will be paying the greek cypriots off? did at any time in your contract of purchase, the goverment guarrenty in writing that exchange property would be safe in the event of a solution? i think the e.u will have to get involved.



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26/07/2008 16:30

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Source "Cyprus Observer" 25/07/08



Christofias: Kyrenian Greek Cypriots can return home after settlement

25.07.2008







Greek Cypriot President Demetris Christofias has told Greek Cypriots from Kyrenia, which is now in northern Cyprus, that should a solution be found, they might be able to return to their homes under Turkish Cypriot administration.

“Being Kyrenia people, we can exercise our right to return to our towns and villages, in the framework of a bizonal, bicommunal federation, under Turkish Cypriot administration, but with a central Cypriot administration,” the President said addressing a gathering to mark the arrival of Turkish troops to Kyrenia in 1974.

He said Cypriots and not foreigners must find the solution for themselves and this must serve their interests and not the interests of third parties.

“What we need to ... guarantee to a satisfactory degree our rights is not the notion of everything or nothing, but the insistence on a bizonal, bicommunal federation which was agreed more than 30 years ago,” he added.

In his speech, read by the Director of his Office Vasos Georgiou, the President said that he is seeking a solution “with reasonable arrangements which will be viable and functional and will secure the rights of all the citizens.”

Christofias, himself a Kyrenian, from the village of Dikomo [Dikmen], also said that he will exhaust every possibility to reach an agreed settlement and noted that during Friday’s meeting with the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, they will review the situation and decide whether to begin direct negotiations, without tight deadlines and without arbitration.

The President’s remarks were made as he prepares for the fourth meeting with Talat, since his election in February this year in an effort to resume talks, leading to a solution that will reunite Cyprus, divided since Turkish troops invaded and occupied the island’s northern part.



MaggieAndBernie



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So, excuse me if I sound a bit simple, but does that mean if you've bought a house in a former Greek Cypriot village in the North, the GC former owners can turf you out??



ilovecyprus


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"So, excuse me if I sound a bit simple, but does that mean if you've bought a house in a former Greek Cypriot village in the North, the GC former owners can turf you out??"







If the land/property is pre 74 GC owned then the possibility remains



cyprusishome


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The likelyhood is they would seek compensation of some sort rather than property.



Then this is something we all knew about before we bought here, or should have known about if research had been done correctly.



MUSIN M


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david

make that the next 50 years



PtePike



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make that the next 50 years





You wish. I'll join you for a beer in the harbour come reunification, kumbari.



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Compensation will be the way forward,

Paul.



MUSIN M


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watch and see pike



MUSIN M


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pike

as you are writing some greek here is the turkish word for pike (hiyar).



PtePike



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Cheers for that Musin.



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Although only 1,000 TC's and 1,000 Gc's participated in these face to face interviews in 2005, it makes interesting reading, with regards to property rights and options for solutions.



http://www.help-net.gr/OptionsForPeaceTextOnly.pdf - 52k -



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Look at the time on message 13.



jock1



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ignore that. got it wrong.



ilovecyprus


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Hi Bradus



This document is very interesting. I have not read it properly, just skimmed it. There were a couple of real surprises and a number of confirmations.



Thanks for posting it



PtePike



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02/08/2008 13:32

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jock1: "ignore that. got it wrong."



Maybe more success will come if you try moving on to three sentences.



ilovecyprus


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PP said - "Maybe more success will come if you try moving on to three sentences"



every now and then you take a swipe PP at people you decide are less educated than you. you debate well, there is no need for it



jock1



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pike maybe.



jock1



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just maybe, who knows.



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