ACCOUNTs OPEN FOR ALL THE VICTIMS on Aug 1st

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
17/07/2010 23:27

The EU have done a deal with counterparts, if you paid via your UK bank for a nice house in Cyprus and have got knowt, like me and my kids, ( hell have we been battered) and have lost deposits via Akan Gurkan, Talat Kursat, Munir Akil, XXX It,s refund time. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx





Post edited for offensive remark

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
17/07/2010 23:44

What are you rattling on about ??

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
17/07/2010 23:51

Who are the counterparts?



Please explain what you actually mean?

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 00:15

Simon Shinrock has sold his story to SFO plus

hal9000


Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 00:17

Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. Please explain.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 00:22

Julie ?

You obviously have a story to tell but to me your words are just cryptic riddles.



Please post in a more comprehensible fashion so that I can fully understand the points you are trying to make.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 00:28

SFO being serious fraud office? Are you saying that for people that paid in England they have some sort of redress?

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 00:33

Give us a clue

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 00:33

"Simon Shinrock has sold his story to SFO plus"

Absolutely hilarious! SELLING a story to the Serious Fraud Office. You'll be telling me next that Spaghetti grows on trees.

She's really gone off her rocker this time!!

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 00:41

TC

Yeh i just heard that Ken Dodd and Lester Pigott have sold their story to the Inland Revenue, how tickled they are too

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 01:06

Tim Cadman



Simon Shinerock told groups where you buried the money. Horrible lot

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 01:14

Simon shinerock told the agencies where Tim Cadman buried the finance.

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 01:25

Lets see how much the unwins offer back to victims, know Ali Safa is in Malta#

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 01:44

what the hell is going on xxxxxxx

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 01:58

Liz

I have no idea - but would love to find out



Jean

xxxxxxx



PS Tim Cadman - what the hell have you got to do with it? Thought you'd sold up and got out?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 02:06

was tim an estate agent? Very confusing!

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 02:18

Simon Shinerock is an Estate Agent in the UK. After trawling through reams of usless information I still can't see what Julie is whittering on about.

Choices Estate Agents operates a Property Investment Club. The cost is £250 plus vat for a lifetime membership plus £60 per annum plus vat while you remain active. If you go on to buy one of their directly sourced below market value properties there is an additional commission of 3% plus vat.

More fool anyone who signs up as all they really send you is properties that are up for auction.

For those on this board, I have never buried money anywhere and think that either Julie is either going through a manic depressive state again or is just drunk this evening.

For those who forgot, or unaware of Julie, she lost £10k to Unwins when SHE backed out of a sale. She got most of the money a couplke of years later back but wasn't really entitled to it under the terms of sale she signed.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 02:26

Well, thank you for the explanation, Timothy Cadman.



Good Lord - personally, we've only got a holiday home (bought, incidentally through Unwins, off-plan and with no problems) but I can't wait to get rid of it.



Anyone want a HUGE one bedroomed apartment in Alsancak - and I do mean HUGE - but only one bedroomed?



Jean

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 04:47

Anyone want some CTA tickets?

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 12:43

Can someone explain what Ali Safa has got to do with all of this and why the fact Julie says he happens to be in Malta has any relevance to this thread.









The butlers wife

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 12:59

Jean. Hold onto your property - you'll make big money in a year or so.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 13:24

Doyen....we've all been hearing that for years !



All those estate agents promises of guaranteed investment returns of 25% in a year.....didn't really happen did it?



Most people who bought after 2006 in TRNC have ended up selling at a loss or barely covering their investment costs......admittedly the general downturn in the worldwide property market hasn't helped !



But what do you mean by "you'll make big money in a year or so. "?

Is that a year..2 years...10 years....?



You may be right (eventually),but it will take some massive changes to take place in the TRNC beforehand,and I believe that most people aren't prepared to take that gamble.

boerboel


Joined: 02/05/2009
Posts: 290

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 16:17

Msg 1 - Give us a clue?? We paid a deposit from a UK bank account to Unwins Turkbank account in 2006 property was never built as development was cancelled. So far not seen a penny of our deposit returned. If you prefer not to disclose information on board you can e.mail us at ash@nethouse.net

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 19:00

Julie,



Come on, don't keep us all in suspense, spill the beans and let us all know what is going on.







The butlers wife

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 19:53

Julie,



you do no one any favours, including yourself, by coming on here and leaving cryptic messages that are obviously not making sense to any the readers above.



Either state what news you have and what current action is being taken or leave off with the messages. Many on here are looking for good advice and support and you appear to be toying with peoples feelings and hopes.



If you can't say anything constructive maybe its best to say nothing at all?

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 21:51

Oh laugh I find this Forum so very funny half the time a lot of post have me in stitches ))) ))







Spider,X )

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 23:14

Spider,



If I was renting a property I would find this thread funny as well. Unfortunately I own a Medview home and would like to know what is going on and where Julie has got her information from and if there is any truth in what she is saying. Unfortunately Julie has decided she is not telling at the moment, leaving us all wondering why she started the thread in the first place.





The butlers wife

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/07/2010 23:16

i agree with the butlers wife, to be in the position you are in. We never got possesion (Amaranta), but i wish julie would explain herself x every so often she does these little teasers x

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 00:11

Timmy Cadman get the diocalm ready. (2 for 1 at Superdrug)

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 00:22

Julie, Didn't you back out of a contract with Unwins?, you complained(unfairly in my view), they refunded their commision(£3k), but the builder quite rightly refused to refund the remainder.



You seem hell bent on trashing the TRNC,but seem to spend 24/7 on this forum, just what is your problem?, do you have a life?.

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 00:44

ttoli messgae 30







Why would I do that . My father is buried out there (not all of him, seems paperwork was dodgy and the authorities in UK have found where his femur ended up) Want to see the paperwork ??

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 00:56

Timothy Cadman knows toooo much about investment loss and needs to stop messing around on gay web sites & pay what he owes to his customers.

Eyeball.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 01:11

It strikes me that Julie (whoever she is) is playing with you all and dangling snippets of information to keep you all biting. Sadly peoples homes are not a topic to be bandied around on the forum such as this. It is clear that she is not going to give an answer - she has had her kicks now!!!!

Say goodnight Julie!!!!!

hal9000


Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 01:45

Goodnight Julie!

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 01:55

Nite cadman x

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 13:29

Well I've decided that Julie is actually in some druken stuppor somewhere in the North of England.

To put the record straight on my investment in North Cyprus, I bought a villa for £72,000 and sold it for £140,000. But my losses occurred as the £50,000 we investewd in the bank didn't pay enough interest to live on as we had hoped, so we ended up having to get jobs. When the recession hit, and jobs were no more, we couldn't afford to live in the TRNC and so moved back to the UK.

As for messing around on "gay web sites"...so what? I am bisexual.....AND PROUD!! So you can't hold that one over me!!!

As for "giving people their money back", I'm quite at a loss. I never took money from anyone in respect of sales of any sort of real estate.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 13:45

TC do you know Julie? sounds like she knows a lot about you.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 15:35

Tim,

I think a lot of people have suffered in the same way as you have.

Its not just been in the TRNC but world wide because of the financial crisis.

Once we had a nice lifestyle with plenty of interest from funds in the bank.

Now we have had to cut back as we no longer have the same income coming in.

Those who moved to countries in the eurozone i beleive have suffered even worse than us.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 17:57

Woodspeckie,

A simple google search reveals a lot about a person.

There's nothing on the Internet that I am ashamed of, or regret ever putting up there.

I had the misfortune of meeting Ms Wheeler, and wasted a lot of time, when I worked in an Estate Agents for 6 weeks, until discovering that it wasn't for me. Tall tales and exagerrated truths wasn't my style of selling.

She was just trying to waste as many Estate Agents time as possible to get back the losses she had made at the hands of Unwins.

She blamed Unwins for her incompetence of being able to raise funds to proceed with her sale. As with ALL sales contracts in the TRNC, and worldwide, any deposit taken is lost if the buyer pulls out. She broke the contract but decided that that particular clause was unjustified and started to kick up a fuss and slander Unwins. In the end SHE signed the contract to buy. No one held a gun to her head. She's the one who paid £10k instead of the usual £1,000.

MartinMedview


Joined: 10/09/2008
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 18:00

Heaven knows what this thread is about but can I make it clear that Ali Safa is not in Malta. Indeed, he has never been to Malta and so far as I am aware he has no intention of going to Malta. He is in Cyprus.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 18:20

Hi Martin,



Thank you for clarifying this for us Medview owners, perhaps you should take a look at the thread SLOW DEATH for pensioners in Cyprus. This thread was also started by Julie Wheeler and makes some very interesting claims.





The butlers wife

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 21:39

Dear the butlers wife. so sorry if my post offended you that was not my intentions..It just seemed a very strange post reading through it as i do, I think now i understand and i wish you all the best with all your problems with medview homes and i hope it works out for all who have dealing with the.good luck.





Spider,X

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 22:12

message 36 timmy 'pink pants' cadman



You should stop putting your hand in your pants for silly boy reasons, and pay back all the lost deposits - eyeball

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 22:14

Hi Spider,



Apologies accepted, I think this lady has been winding people up for the fun of it. When things are so fraught as they are in the TRNC at the moment, it is not a nice thing to do. Although we do not have our title deeds, we do have a finished complex on the main site with water and electricity, roads etc. We are trying to be optimistic that we will eventually get the deeds, in the meantime we intend to enjoy our property in the TRNC and try not to worry to much about the situation there.



The butlers wife.

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 22:22

Message deleted due to inappropriate language.

AJ

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 23:22

Most know that I am no fan of Unwins however, Julie please don't be so personal with one of their employees (I am reading between the lines here). Employees do as they are told by their employer and Timothy has said he didn't like the way they worked and left after six weeks.



Vicki

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
19/07/2010 23:40

britvic

They are a bunch of 'financial terrorists' who have hurt families. Imagine being 65, selling your house in the UK enticed by Glossy brochures, and then finding you own nothing, cos Unwin pointed you ih the direction of the scam camp.



It really is terrorism.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 07:52

I think Ms Wheeler is either in need of urgent care at a mental institution or she is purposefully seeking to gain responses from people to enhance her reputation.



One thing for sure, all her obscure and inflamitory remarks are doing nothing to help those with genuine problems here. She is one of the lucky ones that has got most of her "small" investment back.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 08:17

David, casting aspersions on somebody's mental health is a bit low... how exactly would these postings "enhance her reputation"?



Oh and it has been stated that they've recovered only £3,000 of the £10,000 paid out. Last time I did arithmetic 3/10ths was not 'most'.



Having said that if ever there was a candidate for the attentions of SAs is it not the instigator of this thread?

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 08:56

There have been all sorts of numbers bandied around by several different people over the years this young lady has been posting. In my opinion her small loss, and if my sources are correct, brought about by her own actions, pale into insignificance compared to thousands of others. Myself included of course!!!!



So all this attention seeking is just making a mockery of those with genuine problems, just look at all those loosing their homes through auctions etc.



Well done for Timothy Cadman for standing up and not letting this crazy woman from dragging him down.



Personally I think this thread is serving no purpose and should be closed.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 09:07

brought about by her own actions, pale into insignificance compared to thousands of others. Myself included of course!!!!



You say it was brought on by her own actions, couldn't that also be applied to most other folk !! if everyone had followed the advise given by the HBPG no one would have cause for complaint. A wrong doing is a wrong doing whether it be £1.000,£2.000 or £100.000.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 09:25

Equally, one could say that if everyone had followed the advice of the British [& Australian] Foreign & Commonwealth Office, nobody would have bought, so nobody would have been stung.



One of the oldest adages re Cyprus goes:



'Never put a penny into Cyprus that you aren't prepared to lose with a smile!'

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 12:11

Britvic.....

I worked for an Estate Agent and it WAS NOT UNWINS.

Julie met me whilst I worked at another Estate Agents in the vicinity of Unwins.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 12:21

In reply to Julie's message 47,

The "scam camp" are NOT Unwins. They are the builders. They arrive with their plans and brochures, butter up the Estate Agent, offer inducements to take them on and the Estate Agent is taken hook, line and sinker.

The only "camp" are the builders and developers who discover that they got their sums wrong and then unable to meet their obligations. Then it goes pear shaped. DON'T blame the Estate Agent. He believed, like you believe, that the investment was sound and viable. Chase the builder or developer for your money.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 12:26

Timothy, Sorry for getting the wrong end of the stick. Like I said I was reading between the lines as this thread isn't very clear.



Vicki

jimmykibris


Joined: 20/07/2010
Posts: 151

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 12:29

unwins lure people with their speel and are members of the European estate agent union( a toothless tiger you buy into ?)



read this faq on unwins http://www.unwinestates.com/faq.php



reassured ?? lol I guess not

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 12:31

To AJ and all Mods,

If, as I suspect, that message 45 that was moderated by AJ as "inappropriate language" was about me personally, then I request that ALL massages in the future NOT TO BE MODERATED.

I live by the addage that "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names and words will never hurt me."

I'm to old to be offended. I'm to old to care what people think of me. I live my life and if people don't like it, well that's their problem not mine.

You don't go through all your life being mobidily obese and bisexual without being picked on and bullied at school and work and in your socail life without developing a second skin.

I've been insulted by the likes of Bernard Manning, Ken Dodd and Peter Kaye. The first being particualrly withering. But I survived and carry on my life as I will today, tomorrow and until the day I die.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
20/07/2010 12:35

"Q. Can we use our own UK solicitor?



A. No. You must use a solicitor based here in Northern Cyprus. You can use a solicitor of your choice, however, we do have solicitors we would be happy to introduce you to. For more information click on Law/Solicitors."



I wonder who they would recommend? Also, I love the way we were told "No one will ever be able to build in front of your house." Funny that as when we were there last the footings were being dug for a house right in front of ours! And while I'm at it, the contracts (Ha!) "No mortgage or encumbrance will ever be placed on the land." Guess what?

silverfox44


Joined: 14/07/2010
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
21/07/2010 16:02

Read all your coments, some are hilarious, some I didn't understand and others are problems that I am now having to face myself. I am a new girl on the block (over 60) and all I wanted for my retirement was a nice holiday home. If anyone reading this has bought, off plan, a 3 bedroomed apt in Lapta by builder Oskan Besok T.A. Goddess Enterprises can you please contact.



Steph

jimmykibris


Joined: 20/07/2010
Posts: 151

Message Posted:
21/07/2010 16:06

Oskan Besok you have my deepest sympathy's try contacting cyprus is home david email



davidincyprus05@hotmail.co.uk



he could write a book on the antics of the Besok crooks

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
02/08/2010 14:28

It's the 2nd August and our Julie got it wrong as she always does. Nothings happened, and nothings's going to....

Unless of course someone out there has actually received a nice lump sum in their bank account today? Any takers? Anyone?......

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
12/12/2010 02:44

I would hope whatever happens, there will be a solution to the hardship, for so many men women & children

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
12/12/2010 05:38

OP - what ever he's on - i'll avoid.................