Yapping dog

puppylover



Joined: 05/05/2008
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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 10:09

Has anyone got any advise on the following..please!!



We have English neighbours who have an approx 10 month old dog.

They were first on our estate and the dog has been given free reign to do what it likes.

It has entered peoples property and done it's business in their garden, broken plants and solars lights etc.



The main problem that residents and holiday makers have on our site is the dogs continual yapping.



Every time the dog is left alone indoors the dog continually yaps from the time they go out to the time they return....and I mean continual not just intermitent.



For the last ten days they have had relatives out and have spent long hours away from home leaving the dog to drive everyone on site mad.....our neighbours who are out here at the moment are all complaining and have to go indoors after a while as the yapping is a nightmare.



Approaching these neighbours is not an option I'm afraid as there are other issues with them that most people on site have with them and we are doing our best to avoid direct confrontation.



Has anyone had a similar problem..and if so how did they resolve it.

I know we are not in the UK where these issues would be dealt with via the enviromental health department but is anyone aware what if anything we can do?

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 10:19

why don't you try being nice to these people even though you don't like them. then be kind and offer a bone of the long lasting nylabone type for their dog. that way when they are out the dog will be busy and maybe stop barking. failing that try and speak to the local policeman in a off the record sort of way and maybe they would have a word with these people. keep a water spray bottle to hand when the dog comes into your house or garden give it a quick spray. it will think twice before coming in again.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 10:25

Should a non-dog-sympathetic person be continually annoyed by the dog it is not unheard of here for the dog to end up poisoned... something I abhor but it happens.

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 10:39

Firestarter...thank you for your comments.



It is not a case of not liking our neighbours. In fact when we first moved here we did get on with them.



Without going into detail on this board...all I will say is that over a period of time we have found out that our neighbours are not to be trusted and therefore we keep our distance.



We do not blame the dog in any way (3 people on our site have puppies including us). We blame the owners for not training their dog adaquately so that it is not a nuisance to others.



We have in the past looked after their dog as we know it is destructive when left alone. On the occassions we have doggie sat it has caused damaged and even messed on our carpets...but do we blame the dog...no..its the owners for being irresponsible by not giving the dog any training.

And yes, in the past we have given their dog the odd chew bone and even bought a toy for it to play with.

Please do not get the impression that we are anti dogs....we are the opposite and love our puppy to bits and we would feel terrible if we knew our dog was causing others a problem.



In the five months we have been here we have only seen the dog being taken for a walk...twice!

If owners are too lazy to give their pets stimulation by taking it for a walk occasionally then they are not going to bother giving it basic training in my opinion.

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 10:47

Groucho......



God forbid that anyone would go as far as harming our neighbours dog.

You will see by my reply to fire starter that we have a puppy....now an adorable 4 1/2 months old....love him to bits and would be utterly heart broken to suffer what others have gone through with their beloved pets being poisoned.



I hear what you are saying though... a local is trying to sell properties on the other side of our neighbours wall and over the weekend he was inspecting his properties with the dog standing on the wall barking his head off at him and the owners standing by doing nothing.

turbo


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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 10:55

I have this great gadget that comes in very handy if I am out walking and wild dogs are around or the neighbors dog is barking all night long, it is one of those high frequency gadgets, its not powerful enough to harm the dog it just makes it perk its ears up to see whats going on, a couple of clicks and they stop.

Not sure if you can get them over there.

I repeat, they are not harmful to the dog otherwise they would not be sold (made in USA).

Something like this; (not this model)

http://www.2shopper.com/Handheld_Ultrasonic_Dog_Barking_Control_Trainer_p/vtkbc26.htm

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 11:00

turboturk....know the gadget you are talking about...they are brilliant when training a dog...have seen them used on a neighbours dog in the uk.



Have never seen them here in TRNC though.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 11:07

Perhaps someone could purchase one in the UK and take it out to puppylover next time they come over?

simbas



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 11:08

that is a good option

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 11:31

If there is no other alternatives to address this ongoing problem will ask my daughters to bring one over when she comes over end of August....i'ts the thought of having to put up with the yapping till then.



Hubby and I are not into confrontations but we are at the end of our tether like many on our site.....looks like we may have to have words..oh dear! not what we wanted.

It's the only thing spoiling our move here...one of the lucky one's with our builder, love our house, love the lifestyle, love the local people and not one of the moaners...enjoyng every minute.

Made many friends and all in all sooooo glad we made the mve from manic London!!



Enjoy your day wherever you are and whatever you are doing.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 13:49

puppylover,



At the end of the day, you and all the other affected resident have to have a bit of backbone and tell your neighbours there is a problem and see if they can resolve it. If they are of the "Drain family" type then no matter how you speak to them they will not take any notice.



If this is the case why should you and others put up with it? (Not the dogs fault) Go and see the local Police/council and see what your rights are. Maybe the Animal Lovers society can help and have a word with them. If all fails then all get together and threaten legal action.



Buying a bone for the pooch is a cop out and the high frequency gadget may work (not guaranteed) when you are about at the time of the barking. Would be a real site to see all the others on the complex standing outside ready to zap the dog when he/she starts barking. Also possibility of your nice neighbour becoming irate if he/she finds out.



Your message 4 says it all really. 3 people on our site including us have puppies...plus the neighbour that has the non stop barker make 5 dogs in total......so far. This may well turn in to a quire in the near future with one setting the others off.



It amazes me about the English & Dogs!



Good luck.



T.



(Fully qualified in Noise & Nuisance matters)

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 14:00

Tiggy...thank you so much for your bit of support and useful comments.

(As you say it is not the dogs fault we do feel sorry for her) and if relationships between these neighbours weren't at an all time low then we would be the first to dog sit when they needed.

At the end of the day it is bad ownership and inconsideration on their part....I firmly believe that people like them should not be allowed to have a dog.



It is unfair to their neighbours and to the dog in question....too lazy to get off their backsides and take the dog out or give it any training.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 14:05

puppylover,



If I can be of any furhter help contact me on my e-mail.



don't give up.



T.



dogs cared for properly have so much to give back to the owners.

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 14:11

Thank you Tiggy...very kind of you.

rayz1


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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 15:05

Tiggy have you had any update on othello 1 I have been in touch with Raif 4weeks ago but he hasnt got back to me as he promised to although he stated some work was starting on the lake

Lindz


Joined: 10/07/2007
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 16:16

I think it's great that the English have taken these puppies in, (at least I assume that's what they've done), and I know, from experience, how a barking dog can seriously affect the quality of life.

So good luck to puppy lover and I hope you find a solution very soon.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 17:57

Hello Ray,



have you a problem with a Yapping Dog ? as this blog is all about it and not Othello 1. My e-mail address is on members info if you want to get in touch.



I have had one person using several identities asking me questions as you are doing now, seems that you may be just trying to stir things up a bit. (if I am wrong then I apologise) I have a feeling that I am not.



All I will say is that our Villa has been started and we have photos etc, also comfirmation from a friend who lives close to the developement. You need to contact Mr Hassan directly on the above that you have mentioned, as you leaving it 4 weeks seems a long time to me if you are concerned.



Now back t o Yapping Dogs.

jacktheladett


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 528

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 17:59

Our Turkish Cypriot neighbours have got a beautiful spaniel puppy, which of course is left out all day and yaps (its more of a squeak than a yap and is really annoying), but they are there most of the day and they just let it yap, even if its sitting right next to them. If they go out at night, they bring it in and of course it yaps because its on its own. Its just begging for attention, but they seriously do not know what to do with it.



The first time I went round there and commented what a lovely dog it is, beautiful face, etc (it really is cute) and then said how much it barks and how annoying it is. The second time (as they made it stop for a couple of days) my husband went round there and was a bit firmer. But yet it continues. When the summer is over they go back to Nicosia so at least I know there is a light at the end of the tunnel.



Try a couple of nice approaches, then a, 'look this is the last straw' approach, before you go to any authorities.



The water idea is a good one, it doesn't harm the dog, but he won't like it, and if the owners complain, state the obvious, they keep it secure in their own garden and you won't need to do it.



It wouldn't bark so much if it had a good walk at night, it would sleep, likewise in the morning, it wouldn't be traipsing round other peoples gardens, if it had been out.



Good luck.

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 18:00

Lindz...thank you for your kind words.

puppylover



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Message Posted:
28/07/2008 18:09

jacktheladdette.....Thank you too!!



It has helped to offload and the kind support of others on this board goes a long way in relieving the stress of the yapping which has now just stopped after 9 hours (non stop)....owners have just returned home after a day out.



Off to take some asprin.....

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 18:12

puppylover,



Print out the above and slip it under your neighbour's door....they might just get the hint!!

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 18:25

There was a query on goats eaten garden plants sometime ago and the first question asked was do you have fences and a gate that shuts???



I know you should not need to but if it protects your land.



Also you say you do not wish to confront your neighbours but you will have to at some point. Why not get together with the "friendly neighbours", organise an Efes session and invite the dog neighbours.



Prior to that try setting a tape going outside there house as they leave one day then given the opportunity play it back to them. Remember, they are out all day and probably do not know the dog barks. With a tape you have proof.



Yapping dogs are a pain anywhere you live and along with boundary disputes are probably the biggest cause of neighbour disputes. There is no unique answer so you have to give them all a try.

puppylover



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Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 20:37

Thank you all for your support and suggestions...they have been digested and all taken into consideration.



I have spoken with neighbours and we have decided that once the neighbours visitors have left words will have to be said.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 22:03

hello,



this stop barking system is very efficient we had the same problem with 2 dogs next house - owners completly gave up with their dogs barkings night time - we explain them that they should do something very nicely and they told us " even the dogs bark after me when i order them to stop" so no solution from that way - we bought that system and after a few days the dogs understood that when barking the machine send ultra sounds - but we had to do the effort not them - and i can tell you they surely couldn't sleep night time as well - people shoud have permission to have an animal - we had one for 14 years and never had pb with neighbours - we can buy it through internet

puppylover



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Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
28/07/2008 22:34

Sylvie...thank you....am seriously considering this stop barking device.



If our neighbours were in the UK they wouldn't get away with it as there are ways of dealing with it much more easily than here in TRNC.



Normally we wouldn't let it us get us down but it is now at a stage of being intolerable.



I feel for our neighbour who has to work...she was kept awake until 2am a couple of nights ago while the dog's owners were out.



It also annoys me when certain Brits complain about the locals dogs barking when they allow theirs to do exactly the same.



Never mind, all will resolve itself I'm sure and determined of that.

LESLEYD



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
29/07/2008 14:51

Just to put my two penneth worth in maybe instead of poisoning the dog maybe invite the neighbors round for a meal and slip something into their meal...lol. It also amazes me the attitude some people have towards animals as we are all Gods creatures.

puppylover



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Message Posted:
29/07/2008 16:14

Lesleyd....

When I first read your post I thought you were under the impression that I would contemplate poisoning this dog!!

If you think I could please please read msg 5 where I responded the msg 3 in regards to the subject of poisioning....not in a million years would/could I think of such out such a cruel and wicked act......on the neighbours?...mmm...now there is a thought!!



Enjoy your day!

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
30/07/2008 01:28

So you think it's cruel and wicked to poison a dog, but not sure about your

neighbours?! Sure, they are thoughtless & inconsiderate, but you and other

neighbours should go and speak to them. It is maddening having to put up with

continual barking. I do remember a man who I was working with abroad being

kept awake night after night by a dog barking. He was not a violent type but

said if he had a gun he could have shot it!

It's cruel to the dog also what they (supposed dog-lovers) are doing.

lesleyd



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Posts: 265

Message Posted:
30/07/2008 01:50

Puppylover I did not think for one moment that You would poison the dog I was merely trying to suggest another alternative to this problem...lol

puppylover



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Message Posted:
30/07/2008 07:23

Lesleyd....thank you for that response.



Phylray......totally agree that it is cruel to the dod in question..it boils down to being a responsible pet owner.



In my eyes if you cannot be bothered to walk and disipline your pet...you should not be allowed to keep one.



The comment in regards to poisoning the neighbours as suggested by another board member was said in jest to lighten the stress we on our site have been under due to this problem....there is too much suffering in this world to resort to deliberate violence.



And yes you are right..we will be having words to resolve this problem.

Not that I think it will do much good as these neighbours come across as a law unto themselves.... but we will try.



Have a nice day wherever you are are and whatever you are doing.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
30/07/2008 13:59

i did have another idea. why don't all you puppy owners join up and take the puppies for a walk together? yappie would then be tired out, and the owners would maybe learn from other responsible owners some tips on how to train yappie. it would also be a good way of socialising the pups.

orangekazzie



Joined: 31/07/2007
Posts: 1091

Message Posted:
30/07/2008 14:45

or offer to take your neighbours dog for a walk yourself when you take yours if they don't want to come with you. That way you don't need to spend time in the company of someone who you don't want to but at least you are doing something to help yourselves and the dog.

Karen

lesleyd



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Posts: 265

Message Posted:
30/07/2008 20:23

Totally agree with you comment puppylover that if you cannot be bothered to walk and disipline your pet...you should not be allowed to keep one.

david123


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Message Posted:
30/07/2008 20:27

Shoot the owners,then train the dog

puppylover



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Message Posted:
30/07/2008 20:48

david123....



Thank you for that...brilliant...bought a smile to my face!!

david123


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Message Posted:
30/07/2008 21:18

Or maybe you could get one of those dog collar shockers for the owners,then when the dog barks you press it and the owners will get it,then they might start thinking it only happens when the dog barks,right now dog you need to stop or mummy and daddy will get it again.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
30/07/2008 21:22

Whilst offering to walk the offender’s mutt, you could ask them if you could pay their utility and food bills as well for them free of charge.



How many of you dog owners take a plastic bag with you to clear up the mess? I’d like to see how many tell the real truth and say that they can not be bothered!

puppylover



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Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
30/07/2008 23:51

Tiggy...thank you for saying what I wanted to say but thought I would get accused of being non caring towards the offending dog.



Yes, I could offer to walk this nuisance dog (I have in the past)...but at the end of the day I feel that would be taking away the owner's responsibility and as they are aware of this ongoing problem they are the one's who should be doing something to resolve it.....not myself and the others on site who are also affected.



Agree with your comments re clearing up dog mess....we do (honestly!!).

We lived in London and were plagued by dog mess on pavements.

I wouldn't want to tread on it so why should I expect others to.



Pay for the neighbours bills....mmm! I'd rather spend my money adopting a KAR dog/cat to keep my rescue puppy company.

Not that I could get a cat as the nuisance dog has been taught by it's owners (who don't like cats) to chase them and I don't think it would be fair on a rescue cat to be terrorised in this way.

I get angry just thinking that they are so damn irresponsible.

puppylover



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Message Posted:
30/07/2008 23:53

david123...msg 36



You have a wicked sense of humour...thank you for making me laugh at the though...really cheered me up!!



Take care.

Baspinar Bob


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Message Posted:
31/07/2008 01:01

Puppylover Take yappie a walk but dont bring it back; problem solved.

david123


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Posts: 393

Message Posted:
31/07/2008 01:39

Hi puppylover,



thanks,but do hope you get it sorted soon.David

puppylover



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Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
31/07/2008 07:48

Baspinar Bob.....



Couldn't do that to the dog (it's really a sweet dog in many ways and really not it's fault...the fault lies with the owners) but could maybe think of taking the owners for a looooooooong walkies!



Troodos mountains springs to mind....at night without a torch!

Thank you for your suggestion....have a good day.

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
31/07/2008 13:48

Baspinar Bob

Don't you really think that there are enough people already doing this sort of thing, (Hence the problem with stray dogs) really don't think thats the answer do you ?. And also my answer to the question regards cleaning up after me animals Yes both myself and my husband always clears up after they have been to the toilet.