Non alcoholic restaurants

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
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Message Posted:
22/07/2010 22:03

salaam

are there any restaurants in north cyprus that do not serve alcohol



also , is there a question mark over the way lamb is slaughtered in trnc



and just out of curiosity, why is macdonalds big mac, burger king burger city. yet there are lots of other franchises such as bmw etc

cooper


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Message Posted:
22/07/2010 22:09

I dont think so, but i wouldn't mind a drop of what your on !!

anlusan


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Message Posted:
22/07/2010 22:32

hmmmmm

there must be one somewhere that isn't a fast food franchise

luvincyprus



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Message Posted:
22/07/2010 22:50

ı do not think there are any non alcoholic restaurants except little döner kebab places ( buffets).

spider


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Message Posted:
22/07/2010 23:34

You can buy fresh cooked sweetcorn on the side of the roads..they dont have Bars..Have yet to stop and have one yet and we have been here over three years !



Spider,X

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:02

merhaba anlusan, nasilsiniz? Why is eating in a restaurant where they serve alcohol so offensive to you? I have been a lot of times to stricter Muslim countries where the locals have no problem with people drinking in restaurants.



(Before anyone points out that the TRNC isn't Muslim as such, I know)

TheScarlets



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:13

Get a life and inpose yourself on yourself



Perhaps you are wondering why escape beach is not called camber sands!



Go on holiday to leggoland

anlusan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:29

iyi, siz nasilsiniz



Hadith - Al-Tirmidhi #2776, Narrated Anas ibn Malik



Allah's Messenger cursed ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought.



so if you eat in a restaurant owned by a muslim that sells alcohol then that involves cooperating with them in sin and transgression, which is forbidden

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:34

to the scarlets?



i ask if there are any restaurants that don't serve alcholol, and you reply

"Get a life and inpose yourself on yourself "



so if i ask if there are any vegeterian restaurants, you would equally reply

"Get a life and impose yourself on yourself"



or what about if there are any houses for sale that don't have swimming pools, would you reply

"get a life and impose yourself on yourself".



Use just a little bit of logic if you are going to reply . After all it was just a simple question

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:38

Anlusan

Just keep on taking the tablets! Please!



Richard

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:41

sorry but the passage does not mention anything about cooperating with them in sin and transgression. I suggest you go somewhere like Saudi Arabia where alcohol is totally banned.



I cannot be doing with extremists of any religion.

anlusan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:43

where do the nashqbandi sufis in lefke go and eat. Is there somewhere in lefke?

Blackpoolfan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 00:58

Message 11

Spot on

dudakli


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 01:11

I don't see why this question has provoked such a negative response, I am not religious however I believe that everyone has a right to ask a question. If this gentlemen, or lady, not sure.. wants to ask whether there is a restaurant that doesn't sell alcholol about then it's their right too!



BLIMEY, I'm not being PC, just stating the damn obvious! So, even though I can't contribute to the question, it would be helpful in life if people didn't pass judgement on those that are different to them, have different beliefs or backgrounds..!

Lilli



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 01:26

DUD WE ALL sorry caps left on, we a;; have different views catholic , prodestant whatever but we live with each other, i wish the world would, i think we have all learnt to. thanks to all the educition we have now,, to respect the muslim faith,to wear the burka etc. i think we are more than tolerant

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 01:28

dudakli, I asked a question and got an unsatisfactory answer.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 07:44

Tantuni near the Pound Shop do not sell alcohol... they are very cheap, very good and well patronised.

JohnW


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 08:43

LaptaMike



So, you have decided that you hold the centre ground and those with divergent views are extremists. Perhaps you should consider that others might think that they hold the centre ground and you are the extremist. Who is to decide who is right?



Ah yes! Silly question. You are, of course.

cyprusishome


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 09:18

TRNC is a secular country and like many "Christian" counties the religious aspects of society have practically disappeared exception being Christmas and Bayrams when all have a good time in the name of religion.



So if the initiator of this thread is genuinly coming here to visit for whatever reason they will have a big problem maintaining strict religious practices.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 09:27

No they won't, they can eat their own food or seek out the restaurants that don't serve alcohol and go to mosque as they wish.



They will find many more restaurants of their choice in Lefkosa or course.

NanaJan



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 11:17

Many Muslim friends of ours have their own places in Cyprus and visit regularly and at present you cannot get a flight from Jeddah in Saudi Arabia to Cyprus for love nor money. Own villa which is walled and therefore private for them to dress how they like, eat and drink what they like and so enjoy their holidays like everyone else does. They can attend the Mosque if they wish to do so.



No problem. They spend their money just like other tourists and enjoy life in their own way.

Denise


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 11:46

Salam Aleikum Anlusan i do not know the answers to your questions but i am sorry you have had some rude responses.





surely it is everyone's right to carry out their own beliefs if not hurting others? if someone wants a non alcoholic restaurant that is their choice. the question was asked do we know of any not about your individual religious beliefs. How rude are we to such a genuine question! if you can't answer the question positvely then why comment at all. we are living in a Muslim country after all, albeit not a strict one. live and let live. we all have the right of choice!

simbas



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 11:53

Welcome to the forum Anlusan , your question is every bit as important as the others posted on here , please don't stop posting due to some posters replies , it's for all to enjoy , and if you learn something from it along the way , then 44 is doing it's job

Take care , Simbas

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 12:18

thanks for the replies

nanajan, you couldn't ask your muslim friends if they have found any non alcoholic restaurants. regards an lushan

and thanks groucho for the tantuni tip



but just some insight for some of the expats on the forum.

many turkish cypriots in the uk have become practicing and they want a foot in their homeland. Over the coming years you will find more and more religious muslims, especially turkish cypriot in cyprus.



too much extremism in the uk , what with the daily mail and the telegraph

flightholiday


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 13:54

an lushan - Please keep us informed as you find the restaurants of your choice so we can be better informed next time this question is asked. (Best if kept on this thread.)

marcosthechef



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 14:14

I believe every one should be entitled to their own beliefs and religion but i quote



Allah's Messenger cursed ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought.



As the owner of The Wine Box Company I am feeling a bit guilty, what are the rules on Porn !!!!!



Off to get pissed on a fine box of Mountain Shadow Rose

britvic



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 14:19

marcosthechef, That really made me laugh.



Sorry anlusan, I do respect you beliefs but, I don't know of any non-alcoholic restaurants either.



Vicki

simbas



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 14:34

Quite a few of the little Cafes / Bistro's do not sell alcohol around the Iskele area . This is a little plug for a brilliant little place called Ikrams just opposite the Iskele Police Station . Warning !! do not use this cafe if you just want a snack . They are really huge portions plus the fruit plus the ice cream thrown for free . You might find this hard to believe but it is true , 4 adults ate here for just under 50 tl and left some . Immaculately clean , genuine warm people , plus their customers , they write out the bill with you and they get embarrassed if you leave a tip . A bit of a trek for something to eat eh but worth it ?

Good luck

roisin


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Posts: 358

Message Posted:
23/07/2010 14:36

Hello Anlusan,I heard that the new owners of the Ottaman House in Zeytinlik wanted to make their restaurant into a non alcohol establishment. I don't know if they did.It is open now but I dont have the phone number.Maybe someone on this forum has the number and can post it for you. You could also ask at your local mosque(if you are living here) As for the lamb/meat.I asked my TC neighbours a while ago and they said it is halal. I think if you go to the butcher they will tell you.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 14:48

message 26



mountain shadow rose, sounds like a contraceptive!



your black box was delicious

raidercruise


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Posts: 237

Message Posted:
23/07/2010 14:49

Salam ansulan,



Cafe tantuni, next to lefkosa chamber.

Ozgulen kebap, near harbour

tosyali lachmacun. near new ezic premier.

Gulen Kebap next to colony.



I respect about religion. Please don't take seriously about these messages. After all it is a free world. But what i don't like is making fun with the religion. show respect to have respect in return.

anlusan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 14:57

raider you is a star.

thanks

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:03

anlusan,



msg 8



You quoted:



"Allah's Messenger cursed ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought."



"so if you eat in a restaurant owned by a muslim that sells alcohol then that involves cooperating with them in sin and transgression, which is forbidden"



Lemar sells alcohol - do we take it you won't be shopping there?

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:18

TRNC vanughan

someone on the forum asked for the evidence, and so i have given the evidence. It may be that you are aware of different rulings.

and so really it is up to you what you do with the information



I know here in the uk many practicing muslims only eat in restaurants that do not sell alcohol

I also know that many hotels and businesses find it more profitable to be alcohol free becausing of this growing customer base. http://crescentrating.com/ (this growth is being driven by Turkey)

I suspect that because of the strong competition in the hospitality industry that some owners in the trnc will tap into this market, just as they do in the uk and turkey

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:25

anlusan,



My question was: If you are prepared to boycott a restaurant selling alcohol on principle, are you prepared to boycott a store selling alcohol?



Not a difficult question.



Yes or No?

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:26

I have also heard rumours of an alcohol free hotel being built in farmagousta for muslim women

maybe someone knows more details.



and it is also interesting that in greek occupied cyprus the halal business is boombing

http://www.cyprusedirectory.com/cyprusguide/cyprus.aspx?ID=14289

anlusan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:28

TRNCVaughan.

yes, i make an effort not to shop at muslim owned grocers that serve alcohol

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:33

I suspect nearly all the grocers in TRNC are owned by muslims and that 99% of them sell alcohol. You may have difficulty finding a store to shop in, if you come here.

trnclion


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:42

There was a small restuarant on the way to Dogankoy (ish) that did not sell alcohol.

From the main Girne roundabout take the road towards Dogankoy and follow for 1/3rd of a mile to the next R/A bear left (Antique place on your left) the Restaurant was in the next parade on the left.



Hope that helps

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
23/07/2010 15:53

well then TRNCVaughan. there is a dispensation. if there is no other way to get food. shop at Lemars. although the markets etc at guzelyurt are pretty good.

fatboy



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:28

come from the lefkosa roundabout in girne,head for the waterfall roundabt turn left on the road parallel to the main drag,it's on your right hand side called Susam.

fatboy



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:34

go to essential cyprus.com

Lemtich



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:48

Quote. "Allah's Messenger cursed ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought."



Yeah, that is wine. He didn't mention anything about Strongbow! Where in the Koran is cider mentioned?



Allah (peace be upon him) was quite specific about who and what he was referring to, one should not



generalise about the words of the prophet. Cider is not wine!

kaiserphil


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:51

Yet another wind-u I think. Done pretty well though, hasn't it?

jimmykibris


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:51

neither is efes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

britvic



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:53

Does it say anything in the Koran about Gin?

simbas



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:56

It's all getting a little disrespectful of another persons religion , whether it is a wind up or not

britvic



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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:57

Oops, Sorry Simbas and Anlusan.

Jetski


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Message Posted:
23/07/2010 19:58

And neither is Efes (thanks be to god etc)

dudakli


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Message Posted:
25/07/2010 15:47

LAPTA MIKE

"dudakli, I asked a question and got an unsatisfactory answer"



To be honest, I don't really give a damn. There are times in this life when I really do wonder about the human race, regardless of race, culture or creed we all have a right to live peacefully in any way we should see fit. The fact that there are suggestions on this thread confirming restaurants and such, serving food in a non-alcoholic environment - it would suggest that there are others that would like this type of environment.



And as for TheScarletts - you should be ashamed of yourself. I think it is you that needs to get a life, not this poor dude that only asked a simple question. Would you go and curse at a person that requires only Kosar food? Be a little more tolerant! If you didn't have a suggestion, why bother replying!



People like you really get on my nerves, it's you that needs to get a life or go and crawl under a rock where you belong. You give the human race a bad name!

KingJulian


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Message Posted:
25/07/2010 20:22

Salaam Anlusan ! God help you in finding someone decent to give an answer to your question!!!! Just ignore those disrespectful comments. Allah bless you and your family. You are doing the right thing.

fatboy



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Message Posted:
25/07/2010 20:29

what did I do to upset you msg41 42.

Lemtich



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Message Posted:
26/07/2010 00:02

What did Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) have exactly against wine and the 10 people connected with it?



Had he been over charged? OK. But what exactly is the issue with it? Drunkeness, enjoyment? Loss of



inhibition? Gaining an insight, being reckless, enjoying oneself?



Why isn't hookah smoking or the drinking of coffee banned by Fatwa, these are equally powerful drugs to the



consciousness of men? THe US Government (ever a friend to Islamic fundamentalism) tried prohibition back



in the 1920s. It didn't work then either. Maybe those who God wishes to punish, he answers their prayers.

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
26/07/2010 00:22

dudakli, ditto to you

frontalman



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Message Posted:
26/07/2010 11:26

Why is it that people seem to feel threatened by someone who expresses a different point of view to the mainstream. I believe in 'live and let live' as long as my health and well-being are not being threatened. I don't drink but like to see others, as well as me, enjoying themselves. I might like to try a non-drinking restaurant, but some of me mates might object

anlusan


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Message Posted:
26/07/2010 13:19

Hi Lemtich,

rather than turning this thread into a fatawa (islamic legal rulling)bank, email me offline and i will give you an explanation. that way it will freed up for suggestions of non alcoholic restaurants

regards

an lushan

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
26/07/2010 22:09

personally id like to see more non alcoholic places it will discourage drink driving as ive been done twice now hic lol

dudakli


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Message Posted:
26/07/2010 23:17

LaptaMike is a prime example of the internet terrorists. It seems we have breed a population of internet terrorists, these people have so much front behind a computer screen but no bottle to share their opinions in the real world- this in turn breeds intolerance and racist attitudes. Such a shame.

I agree racoonchic, maybe it would bring down the drink/drive deaths caused on the roads!

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 01:26

Dudakli, to single me out and call me an internet terrorist is ridiculous. I asked a valid question based on the way it is in the TRNC. I have nothing against any religion. Start quoting 'scripture' at me and I will interpret it the way I see it and speak my mind while still being respectful.



Who really cares what you think anyway?

PaulW



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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 01:32

LaptaMike - quite agree.



dudakli re: message 57 - please read again - it's an attempt at 'irony' and I'm afraid you have completely the wrong end of the stick.

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 01:45

thanks Paul for your support. I think this thread should now be closed. It's going no where.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 06:59

lapta mike the guy does make a valid point that should be respected ..not fair to judge him because he chooses a different path live and let live my friend

simbas



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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 07:13

Also English might not be his first language

Simbas

simbas



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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 07:17

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.