man u ...the best football club?

profali98


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Posts: 18

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 21:39

is man u the best football club......real is also best but when you want to judge ...how do you do it?

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 21:46

Prof,

Do you mean in the world,Europe or Britain,

Paul.

essexdan


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 21:56

hard to say, everyone has bias ... i would say NO



but then I support ARSENAL....

eastendjoker


Joined: 24/04/2008
Posts: 166

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 21:59

this one will go on for eve..................................................................r !

gooligan


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Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 22:06

Paul,I think he means the best team in Manchester,in which case it's still 2nd best.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 22:08

Rob,

Last season Man u where the best team in Manchester as they finished above thre team that plays at Wastelands,

Paul.

gooligan


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Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 22:21

Paul,I'm talking about Hyde

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 22:31

Rob,

You old "sleepy hollow" wind up merchant you.When we having that pint mate,

Paul.

Tangerineman


Joined: 08/03/2010
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 23:00

How do you define the best club?

The most successful?

The one with the largest fan base ?

The one with the largest turnover?

The one who triumphs against the odds?

Personally i'd hate to support a team like Man Utd Too many plastics

Oh and New Lad your lot are from Salford not Manchester

steveafc


Joined: 12/12/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 23:00

good grief...................is this for real??

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 23:02

Newton Heath actually Tange,

Paul.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
25/07/2010 23:03

Mess 10,

Sorry mate i never started it,

Paul.

JKnotintheUK



Joined: 24/07/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 12:54

Prof - Define "best" if you do it by trophies won and success in England then Man U are obviously by far the best with Liverpool a close second. Man City don't even come into this rating as their trophy room is still empty. Obviously as real footy fans go we all have our "Best" the teams WE support and those whom we don't like in which case this discussion could go on forever and never come to any real conclusion.

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 12:59

Man Utd have had some great players over the years.. too long a list to go into, but there have been too many times that 'injury time' has been extended if they are losing... or cut short if they are winning... Spurs goal in 89th minute was way over the line but was not given.... bookings aren't given.. Rooney rants as refs but hardly ever gets booked, Ronaldo was the same, diving but never picked up for it... the real test for Man Utd will be when Ferguson leaves and they don't have his influence over the refs to rely on. Then we will see. As for the money thing with City... teams like Utd have had all the CL money for years now, they have had bucket loads more to spend than the average PL team, they just don't like it now someone else has more to spend. Should be an interesting season.

deputydawg


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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 13:19

With no particular allegience to any club I believe LaptaGeezer is spot on !

JKnotintheUK



Joined: 24/07/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 13:22

Message 9 - Tim: Salford has a MANCHESTER Post Code and therefore United IS A Manchester Team. Always has been and Always Will be. Message 14 - United have money, that's not an issue, however SAF has stated he is going to stop the unnecessary big money transfers and will once again turn to United Football academy junior stars to prove his point. The United class of 99 are still to this day one of the best EVER.

Tangerineman


Joined: 08/03/2010
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 14:13

Message 16 thats a bit weak - relying on the postcode

Salford is a standalone bona fide City

What is there to be ashamed of ?

United always get called Salford around our way

Winds the United fans up for some reason

I'm looking forward to my trip to Manchester and Salford this season Bring it on

Up the pool

clayton


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Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 18:35

tangerineman,its in old trafford and thats got a manc postcode.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 19:33

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salford



That should clear it up,

Paul.

clayton


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Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 20:39

paul

ot is not in salford.your not in salford until you go over the iron bridge over the river.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 20:44

Fair point Gaz,

Paul.

clayton


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Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 20:45

tangerineman

cant wait for the game in blackpool,will you be going last time i went i think it was in the70,s there were know blackpool fans there.if your not going i will buy your ticket of you.cheers clayton

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 21:17

United played Blackpool last match, when they where in the second division 1974/75 season.I think there were 58,000 at O.T. and i was one of them.I believe the score was 4-1 to United,

Paul.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 21:58

Paul message 23



Dont drag up the past, we are premiership well for 12 months anyway Blackpool2010 live the dream would like a few new players though around 10 would be nice. TOWER POWER

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 22:02

http://www.footballzone.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=92&zenid=c51ta62kp56unt66spccu8g3q7



I think you finished a very creditable seventh that year.I believe Derby County won the old first division title as well,

Paul.

Blackpoolfan


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Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 22:59

Paul

Top journo as always takes me back

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/07/2010 23:02

Me too mate,remember it like it was yesterday.It was ten bob to get in,

Paul.

silcuty21


Joined: 24/05/2010
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 00:51

what a stupid question



of course we are the best team i wont even argue with anyone on that



and of course our god "sir alex" he is the best go there our kid



sylv

Tangerineman


Joined: 08/03/2010
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 01:18

Clayton it's fair to say the Salford game will be the hottest ticket in town

You won't be getting mine LOL

BF your off soon aren't u ?

Text me your Cyprus mobile

gazmufc78


Joined: 03/09/2009
Posts: 366

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 07:57

New lad errrr have Hull not got a team then , Why not support Barcelona?

Tangerineman


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Posts: 318

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 09:22

I suspect ' East of Hull ' is a reference to working on the rigs

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 11:01

Hull Kingston Rovers have a fine rugby league team.Of which i am a season ticket holder gazmufc,

Paul.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 11:03

Tange,

East Hull is where i live,nothing to do with the rigs.I assume you mean Easington there mate,

Paul.

gardenmaker


Joined: 01/09/2008
Posts: 170

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 11:14

the best team in england is obviously the team that won the league and fa cup need say no more

newlad



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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 11:31

I agree,and the best team in Europe are Inter Milan,whom i believe won the treble,

Paul.

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 12:10

Good points mostly and as a Liverpool Fan I have to concede that Man UTD is the best club at the moment- not for too long though!!



They have:

Best Manager

Largest attendance for home games

Largest Income

Worldwide Fans

Regularly win things

Attract best players

Trophies .............................



Yes it hurt me to say the above but its true, and hope for a resurgence at other end of East Lancs Road.

gardenmaker


Joined: 01/09/2008
Posts: 170

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 12:13

but won jack shit not the best performance if your correct then they UNDER PERFORMED shame lmao

newlad



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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 12:13

Ang,

There already is a resurgence,There called Everton,

Paul.

Tangerineman


Joined: 08/03/2010
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 12:35

New Lad I thought you were referring to the North Sea being as its East of Hull LOL

I'll resist the temptation to ask if you were born anywhere near Salford or The Home Counties

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 12:39

East Hull born and bread Tange,

Paul.

newlad



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Message Posted:
27/07/2010 12:45

Tange,

The river Hull seperates West Hull from East Hull.The river Hull is a tributary that runs to the river Humber and then into the North sea.Hope you havent nodded off,lol.

Tangerineman


Joined: 08/03/2010
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 15:22

Thanks for the geography lesson

As you can guess my visits to Hull are infrequent - only when the Tangerines are in town

I suppose at what 70 miles away you live closer to The Theatre of Dreams than the majority of the STs LOL

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 19:33

tangerineman.

its a ticket for blackpools ground that i want,not to worry got a lot of relations in blackpool so they might be able to help.all x mancs so they dont support blackpool,but they always look out for the blackpool score.if you want my cyprus number i will e mail it to you.

clayton m.u.f.c. old trafford not salford

hope you get your facts right when you are in court,solicitor. he,he.glad you have never represented me.might be doing bird now.he,he.

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 20:29

tangerineman,

you want bf cyprus number,i will give you mine.he might want to sell his ticket.only joking hope you have a good season.

m.u.f.c.

snakes



Joined: 28/10/2008
Posts: 1512

Message Posted:
27/07/2010 20:57

When will people realise !!! a massively successful business person said to me years ago ! "the success of any company is down to its management" and that geezer had more dosh than any of us could wish for (if thats yer thing) Look at the continuing success of Man U and the great season Tottenham had last year ! (not than i'm biased) Newcastle back in premiership !!!! blimey charlie its not who's got the biggest wallet or (walley)

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 18:56

They look good against Fulham.

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 19:49

Not that good Fulham 2 Untd 2,

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 19:56

You are rught Geoff. In actual fact they were not good at all. I wouldn't let Nani take any more penalties!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:00

Message 28.



And what nationality is Sir Alex "your god"?



I rest my case your honour.



Chris

Geoff1131MK11


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Posts: 396

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:05

Bill, please be more careful with your spelling we dont want to give the 'Dutchy ' any more amunition!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:10

) ) )

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:11

yes Dutchy will do what he has done with the other football thread



=> there are four mistakes in the title blah blah blah !!!



I think we should pass the 'Dutchy on the left hand side ' lol



btw thats not how you spell 'amunition' tut Dutchy police alert

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:15

Once again this thread has been high jacked by the ' we hate DC' brigade. Come on No1 time to close it as this has absolutely nothing to do with Man U.



Chris

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:18

oh stop defending the idiot nurseawful it seems ha can hijack what he likes though yeah



I love Man Utd I love man utd back on track now

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:22

Sienna,



Have you ever met DC? Because in my opinion 'idiot' is not a word I would use to describe the man, far from it.



Anyway what nationality is 'Sir Alex' again?



Chris

mikelapta



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Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:27

What is this to do with living in Northern Cyprus?

newscoop


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Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:30

Off topic;



Nursie; any news on the missing wheelchair that was mentioned in Cyprus Today?

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 20:33

I refer to message 14 and 15. It seems that I am to watch another season where refs are in the pocket of beetroot face. When 1 goal each, and Fulham looking likely to score, the ref took no action whatsoever as Man U used blatant fouls right across their backline to stem the tide of attacks including failing to give one obvious penalty. He also manages to give a penalty to Man U which was clearly an unavoidable contact by Duff which did not hinder any chance for Man U. Then, when the game is due to end with no Man U win the ref comes up with 4 minutes of extra time. There was no apparant time wasting nor significant stoppages. Until football worldwide cleans up it's act with regard to referees deliberately and unfairly manipulating results it will not be possible for fans to have any sensible debate as to best teams.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 21:05

Chris I will give that one a miss thanks I really wouldnt want too.. I am not an idiot either, neither are others on here but he continues to belittle others some people are nice to your face but get behind keyborad and the real them comes out obvioulsy !!



Anyway sorry for hijacking this football thread lets let the Man U fans talk footie

nurseawful



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Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 21:14

Scoop,



Apologies to all for going off topic the missing NEW wheelchair is still missing unfortunately but I am sure it will turn up soon as i have an 88 year old lovely lady who really needs it now.









message 56 this has as much to do with TRNC as the description of your 'wee' on another thread!





Chris

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 21:14

i still do not change my message on message 36.



man Utd are all those things but hey season has just started and Chelski already have 2 points more and a thing called superior Gaol Difference. But not to panic they do the same thing every season whack in loads of goals in first few games then dip!



Newlad, dont see much happening with Everton!!



I am keeping my counsel until after the game at Man City tomorrow as i feel will be a cracker and a few goals- obviously for the Reds mind you what team is Roy going to send out I wonder with an important away game on thursday in Turkey !!



I know the League is not won on 2 games but whats happening at Villa, 6-0 by Newcastle after winning 4-0 previous week!! Well done the 'Toon'

Seasiders sorry about your drubbing , but then it shows how improved Liverpool are by gifting the Gooners with a goal!!

Spurs win again although a bit of controversy, the bottom 3 already have a shaky look about them though!!



Liverpool to be on 4 points !

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 21:26

Still on football but slightly off thread, the SPL who some might say does not exist! Glasgow Rangers gubbed Hibs today 3-0. Sorry Jimmy hibby could not resist it!



Chris



Well they beat them.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 21:28

Ang,

As you say mate in mess 61 "hey season has just started"

Paul.

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 21:31

Paul,

methinks we are in for an entertaining season, both on and off the pitch.

Also on Cyprus44!!

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
22/08/2010 21:33

Anyone who finishes above Chelsea will win the title,

Paul.

clayton


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Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
23/08/2010 19:39

paul mate i agree there looking good,know matter howmany games have been played.

ang1706


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Posts: 570

Message Posted:
23/08/2010 21:19

So Paul, you supporting the proper Reds tonight????????????????

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
23/08/2010 21:20

Ang,

I would sooner kiss Andy F.

Paul.

kavenkoy


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Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
24/08/2010 07:51

well the "proper reds" have a game on now ...beaten at wastelands and heading to turkey in a tricky fixture ....surely they wont get knocked out in qualifying rounds? nahh !



and thinking that potentailly chelsea ,arsenal and united in any order will be top 3 ???

then potentailly improvement of city as title contenders ?iprovement or not of totebham (i think they had their best season and will drop back a place or two) and emergence of everton this year ...wow liverpool may not get the fourth spot ......now that would be unthinkable surely ,lol



relegation form so far



kav

gazmufc78


Joined: 03/09/2009
Posts: 366

Message Posted:
24/08/2010 08:27

At least Fergie will benefit from his visit to the Manchester teams ground last night, he should have taken Nanni with him for a lesson on taking penalties!!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
24/08/2010 10:39

Kav,

Liverfool never got fourth spot last year.Looks like the Championship beckons,

Paul.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
24/08/2010 10:48

Gazmufc,

All players miss penalties,even the best in the world.Fulham deserved a draw on Sunday,2-2 was a fair result in my opinion.United will have their hands full to finish top four this year,

Paul.

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
24/08/2010 11:42

newlad, mess 72. Thats the first sensible thing you have ever said.

kavenkoy


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Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
24/08/2010 16:16

geoff



relegation form ?



yeehaaa love the banter lol



kav

Geoff1131MK11


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Posts: 396

Message Posted:
24/08/2010 16:20

kav, i cant argue with you. That performance was terrible. They played some bad games last year but i think that last nights was the worst i have ever seen them play.