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Reproman

Joined: 05/06/2008 Posts: 252
Message Posted: 02/08/2008 20:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 10 in Discussion |
| http://www.observercyprus.com/observer/NewsDetails.aspx?id=3031 "This paragraph imposes a requirement of legitimacy on a state invoking the principle of territorial integrity against a self-determination aim which threatens integrity. This means that a state that oppresses, destroys or unduly exploits a people or community instead of protecting it or representing its interests has no legitimate right to invoke the principle of territorial integrity against that people or community. A state that gravely violates its fundamental obligations to its citizens loses the legitimacy to rule over them. This also applies with regards to a state's obligations toward a distinct people or community within its boundaries. When Cyprus was released into independence, Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriots were forced into a shotgun marriage. And like many of those marriages, also this marriage soon went wrong. The Greek Cypriots were not happy with their Turkish Cypriot partner and when they could not get their own way, the Greek Cypriot wing of the Cyprus Government revolted, and catapulted the Turkish Cypriot wing simply out of all levels of the Cypriot Government machinery, in this way becoming the ‘government’ of Cyprus, constitutional or not and despite the guarantees given by the Treaty of Guarantee. It is not necessary to expound in this article the details of the inter-communal strive, which started at ‘bloody Christmas’ in 1963. Details of the atrocious oppression in those days, of the Turkish Cypriots by the then Greek Cypriot dominated government of the Republic of Cyprus, are sufficiently documented in the reports of the United Nations. The destruction of Turkish Cypriot houses the virtual siege of Turkish Cypriot enclaves, the fact that since then no more Turkish Cypriots could be found in the Cabinet, in the Parliament, in the Courts of Justice, in the Diplomatic or Consular service, in the civil administration, in the police or the army, and the fact that the Turkish Cypriots could not even exercise their constitutional rights to vote, demonstrates clearly, that according to the above quoted Programme of Action, the Greek Cypriot dominated Government of the Republic of Cyprus has no legitimate right to invoke the principle of territorial integrity of Cyprus against the self-determination aim of the Turkish Cypriot Community which threatens that integrity." Makes you wonder what part of cyprus is the real 'illegal' side...... |
ilovecyprus

Joined: 08/05/2007 Posts: 2880
Message Posted: 02/08/2008 21:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 10 in Discussion |
| So if the TC's could prove that their integrity was violated, which shouldn't be hard to prove, and they themselves then vote to be independent due to the unsustainability of their integrity, then the EU has to recognise their independence. |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 02/08/2008 21:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 10 in Discussion |
| Is that what this piece is saying? |
PtePike


Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 02/08/2008 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 10 in Discussion |
| Kind of irrelevant anyway. How many Cypriots actually read the Cyprus Observer? The paper is aimed at conservative English-speaking expats and will attempt to give them what they want to hear. It certainly doesn't reflect the thoughts and aspirations of the TC leadership. Presumably the piece has been lifted from the internet as no information is given about the writer. Dinosaur fodder. |
MUSIN M

Joined: 26/06/2008 Posts: 1352
Message Posted: 02/08/2008 22:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 10 in Discussion |
| hi reproman/ilc "kind of irrelevant anyway" this is from a person who says he resides in north cyprus and has many turkish friends,right. |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 02/08/2008 22:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 10 in Discussion |
| "kind of irrelevant" Not totally irrelevant then |
MUSIN M

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Message Posted: 02/08/2008 22:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 10 in Discussion |
| i do wonder about eric sometimes oh sorry pike. |
PtePike


Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 03/08/2008 13:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 10 in Discussion |
| ILC: "Not totally irrelevant then." Certainly irrelevant to the thoughts and aspirations of the Turkish Cypriot leadership who are leading their people towards reunification. As I said, dinosaur fodder. |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 03/08/2008 13:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 10 in Discussion |
| (...) the Turkish Cypriot leadership who are leading their people towards reunification. (...) I'm pleased to remind you that the people (TC's and GC's) have the last word in a referendum. Didn't that happen before...? |
PtePike


Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 03/08/2008 23:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 10 in Discussion |
| DC, I think you can see the writing on the wall this time round Have you ever had an international article about Cyprus published, BTW? You wanted evidence of mine, which I provided. I'm still eagerly awaiting your piece. |
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