The straw that broke the camels back

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 20:47

What would 'tip you over the edge' and finally make you leave the trnc for good - never to return?

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 20:51

the return of multiple posts on the same subject and endless postings from [the] [same] person !!!! lol

cronos


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 20:53

Doyen....do you mean TRNC or Cyprus 44 ?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 20:57

Sorry Cronos. The trnc.

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:26

If it started raining every day & got cold (I know it can in the winter but I mean now - like it does in UK)

Love putting shorts & vest on every day WITHOUT having to look out the window first!



Maggie

cronos


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:27

No-one seems to be biting Doyen.



For us personally this situation has already arisen ,and was based on the TRNC governments covert decision to stop issuing PTP to foreigners on Pre-74 Turkish Title property.

We cut our losses and sold up to a TC.

Without deeds in our name we would never have felt secure in the TRNC.



For other posters though the tipping point may be if Efes goes up to 10L a pint ,or if Lemar stop stocking pork pies !

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:45

Bill

Ask DC (Hans) he's done it, resigned promising never to return on numerous occasions and keeps on posting! A man of honour or a man of his word?!



Richard

britvic



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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:48

I have no idea how brinsley's post relates to this thread.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:53

Schweppes

Msg 1 - 'Leave here for good' - C44 or TRNC? Not made clear in the question, blame Bill!



Richard

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:53

Richard. I'm not talking about 44. I'm talking about going back to your home country. )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:56

RE msg 1, No1Doyen: (...) What would 'tip you over the edge' and finally make you leave here for good - never to return? (...)

=> Buy my house and I'll tell you.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 21:57

RE msg 7, Brinsley: (...) Ask DC (Hans) he's done it, resigned promising never to return on numerous occasions and keeps on posting! A man of honour or a man of his word?! (...)

=> "Oh, you drunk, you drunk, you silly old drunk etc.." (The Dubliners).

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 22:01

Apologies. I've now amended the question :(

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 22:16

nothing I can think of apart from even more red tape. Got a lovely villa with a lovely view, a lovely dog (Efes), lovely neighbours. Lovely olives of our trees soon, cheap food, cheap drink, cheap ciggs. Lots of friendly locals who treat us very well and are very welcoming.



I remember last year I left the Rose Gardens and was walking back home when some young lads drove up. They were going same way and even though I had never seen them before they gave me a lift because they had seen me leaving just before them. How nice is that? (wouldn't normally hitch hike as such but they just stopped and offered me a lift and I recognised them)

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 22:22

DC

=> "Oh, you drunk, you drunk, you silly old drunk etc.." (The Dubliners).

Wrong again, the last word is c...

So much for your knowledge of the original Irish lyrics of this song! 'Fool' was substituted for broadcasting reasons.



Richard

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 22:39

Brinsley, it's a great song that, I love it.



In fact I think I'll download it now.

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 22:43

Brins, whats the name of the song please?

ang1706


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Posts: 570

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 22:46

Lapta Mike,

I have a similiar story about the lovely people the locals are!



It was New Years Day in 2008 and being a 'sensible' Scotsman had been out all night before and all day celebrating.



I was naughty and drove my car from Kyrenia to the 5 Fingers , but had to park around the back. I had a 'few' more and walked out the front door (as normal) and walked to the Sports Club at Ozankoy where I always used to park me car!



Got there and no car, was blaming some locals for nicking it as always leave my keys in it, a police care came and sugar !! I remembered and apologised to the locals who all laughed. The Police listened to me and I told them where my car was, they took me to my car and I took my Keys and other documents out amd....... the police drove me home to my temporary residence in Ozankoy.



Thats a reason why I love TRNC and will return when I retire, its a beautiful country and full of lovely people.



God Bless them ALL !!!

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 22:54

ang, thats brought a smile to my face. I'm sick of all the expats moaning about this and that, all I can say to them is if you want to live in a foreign country then put up with the local 'customs' and ways etc. I have and I'm happy.

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:00

ps to my last post. I'm even Trying to learn Turkish but finding it hard because all the staff in shops, restaurants and bars would prefer to speak English to improve their language skills. ;-)

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:05

Mike,



My sentiments entirely.



I can tell of a lot of other lovely stories involving helpful TRNC people, who are so nice and genuine.



Yes and as you point out we are in a foreign country and enjoy their ways and customs, after all why are we here?



Yes I have a different story about the builder but not too bad but that does not detract me from having nothing but good to say about the TRNC.



Im afraid there are a few EXPATS who think this is 'Little Britain' and will always winge at anything!!



A few expat hostelries I will never frequent again as have been ripped off and given very poor service , but never had this with locally run places.



I know Im off thread but Like you I am sick of threads wanting to snoop about bad things about the TRNC !!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:08

bill what would make me go, if i could sell tomorrow, without a doubt. I love the place cant stand all that goes with it. We have accepted our loss, i want to become the liz i was, i accept its hard in the uk but at least we would make a living and my man would get what he deserves x

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:14

Msg 17, Mike

Seven Drunken Nights. The last two day verses are here in lyric format only but this renditioning is not performed by 'The Dubliners', they were only allowed to sing 5 of them!

RUDE!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KI6g01zO-A



Richard

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:21

thanks mate. Ruder the better ;-) Ever heard any of Ivor Bigguns songs or the Mac Lads? ;-)

cronos


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:22

Lilli....no-one can accuse you of being anti-TRNC and not giving it a go.



However you have found to your cost that the TRNC govt is all take and no give ,and has no real interest in the problems of foreigners.



I sincerely hope that you can find a way out soon and you can start a new life somewhere where the odds are not so heavily stacked against you.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:25

Hang in there Liz. You've got a good business.

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
15/08/2010 23:42

Brinsley, was very good.



Liz, hope you don't leave you and Guido will be sorely missed. xxxxxxxxxx

expatlady


Joined: 11/07/2010
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 03:33

msg #1



If I don´t get my PTP and title deed to Pre-74 Turkish Title property... then it is bye-bye trnc.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 10:28

expatlady....see my msg 6



It seems like you are unfortunately in the same position as we were.

You did "the right thing" by buying Pre-74 and then got shafted by the TRNC govt.



We weren't prepared to wait any longer.

Foreigners are NOT being granted PTP on Pre-74 for applications made after 2006.....FACT.



It depends how long you personally are prepared to wait for a change in the law....which may never come at all....and in the meantime with no deeds in your name you are at the mercy of memoranda etc.



Good luck.

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 10:47

Lilli, if things go right for you it will probably be the time to stay. You can't win - it's sods law.



Good luck.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 11:02

cronos/msg25: 'Foreigners are NOT being granted PTP on Pre-74 for applications made after 2006.....FACT.'



I applied in August 2005 - result: refused PTP........FACT.



The Vendor has given me 'Power of Attorney' to sell; but I doubt this gesture would prevent memorandums being placed on the property by some unforseen [government condoned] 'legal' scam..........

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 11:08

Tenakoutou......yes perhaps I was being a bit generous to the TRNC govt !



You are probably right....the cut off date seems to be sometime during 2005.

Tenakoutou



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Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 11:38

cronos............as I've posted previously, this was covertly decided right after the 2004 Annan Plan referendum - I had that information given to me, first hand, by a very close associate of 'the powers that be' - unfortunately and regrettably, though, after I had purchased the property.

expatlady


Joined: 11/07/2010
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 12:59

msg 25,



Cronos, luckily I´m not in your position (more luck than wit: I just entered this marked later, that´s all. I could learn from all the horror-stories)

So: I have not paid for the property yet..and make as a condition that I will get PTP and title deeds before I pay. The seller boasts of "close connections" with 'the powers that be' ...we will see.

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 17:31

expatlady.....msg 34



Marry a TC......problem solved !



No PTP required.....full deeds within a month !

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 18:01

I think the camels back was broken some time ago.



Lied to by builder/estate agent;

refused PTP on Pre74 title/near an army camp;

allegedly corrupt &/or incompetent advocates who owe clients no duty of care whatsoever and no comeback against them;

allegedly corrupt,incompetent out of date legal system;

allegedly corrupt, incompetent system of government;

allegedly corrupt incompetent police service;

lack of swift justice, security or faith in the legal system,advocates or police to protect you from malicious allegations of crime which when made drag people through the courts for years whilst detaining you in the TRNC;

same lack of faith with regards getting financial protection or recompense for fraud or immoral though allegedly legal practices by banks in granting mortgages on property already sold.



Apart from these few minor points, it's paradise.



Luckily I'm not one of those whinger Brits some people refer to.

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 18:19

Hector, "Luckily I'm not one of those whinger Brits some people refer to"



If you're refering to my post I didn't single out Brit expats, was talking about expats in general of many nationalities ;-)



I do actually agree with the points you made aswell anyway

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
16/08/2010 20:06

Msg 35

Baby in 9 months after the 'full deed' and bank account wiped out by wife's 'ptp' shopping habits, not much of a choice!



Richard

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
17/08/2010 14:51

Too many 'straws' to list but most recent one was this morning when I was driving up the mountain road towards Arapkoy. Doing around 70kph when a van pulled out from a side track right in front of me, locked up all my brakes and skidded to a halt about 3 feet from the vehicle. Local driver still had mobile phone glued to his ear and seemed to think that this was a viable excuse. Shrugged and drove off quickly which is probably a good job as I was about to get out of my car and rip his feckin head off !!



Third 'near miss' in as many weeks !!



Be careful out there



Paul

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
17/08/2010 16:50

Laptamike

I was just being (sorry, attempting to be) humorous.



The death toll on the roads. Sad. Very sad.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
19/08/2010 08:59

If the brits keep holding their community meetings in the main gangway of Lemar and other Supermarkets-I'm off.