families to lose in welfare clampdown

dwr6rtr


Joined: 15/12/2008
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 11:11

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303942/Bonfire-middle-class-benefits-Famil

Warbabies


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 165

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 11:20

The suggestion is to cut CB for those on the highest tax rate. Is that unfair?

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 11:27

i think they should only get child benefit for 1 child,you want 2,,3,,,4,,5,,,6,7 you pay for them

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 11:29

Child Benefit was introduced after WW2 to boost the UK population after the war losses.



As we are way overpopulated in 2010 shouldn't it be stopped altogether? Why are we still being encouraged to breed?

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 11:31

Some people use child benefit and related perks as a family business.

essexdan


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 11:46

If child benefit really makes that much difference then you cant afford kids ... buy a goldfish ......Never have realised why its the states responsibility to reward childbirth ( thanks message 4) ...so many benefits introduced over the last 10 years, Labour's ploy to secure votes from the growing sponging population.



I am all for abolishing thechild benefit and means test the winter fuel payment .....my mum used to get it and gave it to the local hospice, she was embarrassed to receive it as she didn't need it

essexdan


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 11:52

cond: she was not wealthy by any means, a widow and my dad was a carpenter from 15 to the day he dropped, she just lived within her means..... a lesson/message that seems to have gone astray in recent years.

dave456


Joined: 09/08/2010
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:06

Message 4,

These children will be paying someones pension in time,we hope

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:09

msg 8 , most of these "children " will be drawing benefits, how many will work AND pay taxes ?????

dave456


Joined: 09/08/2010
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:20

apc2010,thats why i ended my message with we hope,so whats the answer ?

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:23

dave, the answer is pretty simple do not be a "nanny state",

dave456


Joined: 09/08/2010
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:29

apc2010

How do you view a nanny state

Molly


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:32

And how is this relevant to North Cyprus?????

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:34

dave, luckily from afar...........but to answer this would take a long time, it just annoys me when pensioners suffer while "chavs" can pop out kids get a house and benefits , and hospitals employ translaters for people on the nhs who cannot speak english ...to name a few points.........

dave456


Joined: 09/08/2010
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 12:45

you know the answer molly

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 16:04

When I had my children you didnt get it for the first child then.

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 16:08

Who cares if you live in N.Cyprus?

Geoff

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 18:19

For example today: Woman aged 36 with 11 children expecting her 12th with three different men hasn't worked for 19 years, her and her partner who is on incapacity benefit because he has a bad back but last year was exposed for taking part in off-road motocross biking rake in £30,000 a year benefits, £20.30 for lst child then £13.40 for each other child up to the age of 18, council have moved them into a £300,000 house costing £1,200 a month rent. Daughter aged 13 had a stretch limo ride for her birthday, spend £60 a time at Mcdonalds.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 18:38

She will need a Y-shaped coffin then?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 19:28

Bllody right too!



Too many scroungers not enough workers. Thats the UK issue! A good country ruined!!



wynyardman

nigetj


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 176

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 19:53

surely if u live here u r not entitled 2 child benefit unless u r fidling ....so what does it matter !!!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 19:58

All benefits should be means tested and child beneifit should be scrapped altogether....as wyn says too many scroungers and not enough workers..

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 21:38

wait for it ...the fuel allowance will be next ,and for all those sat in NC in winter and getting it is that fair



kav

marcosthechef



Joined: 30/11/2009
Posts: 646

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 21:44

I dont think we should be breeding but its good to practise, just in case LOL

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 21:49

I'm with you Kav, talk about taking a bloody liberty )

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 21:52

The workers are the problem, without them, none of this would be possible - stay at home!

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 21:58

Breed em Pay for them. That would be my motto! Contribute to your society, and pay your taxes. That way we can ALL enjoy the society that we deserve. Some bloody chance!



wyn

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 22:02

Some families with young children work hard and need child care more so in the summer holidays..Both parents pay high tax and the child benifit helps when it comes to clothes child care and the such.I always thought that the husbands tax was higher to cover this..thats how it used to work..Long time since i recived it but I worked full time and I needed my child benifit because a court told my Ex to pay up and he never did,for 18 yrs I tracked him down and took him to court and the courts would bin the arrears and ruduce the amount..whats that all about then ? Thank god my daughter took on my principles and work hard to..I hope they keep the child benifit to enable them to continue to work.there will be a lot more hard up families in the middle class thats for sure.



Spider,X

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 22:06

There are lots of things wrong with society that only a third World War will sort out

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 22:10

Spider,



Well meaning statement as we would expect from you. But abuse of the system must be cut out.



Only breed them if you can pay for them!!



wyn



Just my views, thats all.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 22:15

I sponsored two children and neither of them saw much of me because the system didn't allow - I worked hard and paid my taxes - like many others.



The same system that allows too many to sit at home and do nothing.



................except breed

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 22:17

Yes wyn abuse of the system must stop its killing the country.





Breed if your going to work hard for the ! Ah but are there any jobs..Yes my brother was out of work for some time and took a job as a bin man I said to him that I was proud of him..we all need them and its hard work, most world much rather not bother..





Spider,X

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 22:22

Spider,



If there are no jobs, keep it in your pocket. Let them live within their means!!



(Well it sounds better that let them eat cake!)



wyn

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/08/2010 22:30

Now you have me rolling about laughing )) ) you sound just like my Mother bless her and you know what my girls have told my that also, Such a shame most mother did not pass that on.





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