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DutchCrusader



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31/08/2010 10:52

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On a map of Kyrenia (1955) there's a medieval tower (called: "ancient tower") located near the still existing medieval Customs house (Old harbour). In 2010 this medieval tower doesn't exist any more.

Maybe some (older) British people can answer one or more of my questions:

1 : Did you see this medieval tower around 1955?

2 : Is the location on the map wrong (shouldn't it be where I placed a red dot on the map below)?

3 : If the medieval tower was there still in 1955 - when was the tower removed? By whom?

4 : Do you have or know of a photograph of this medieval tower?

Map (click the URL): http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_uploads/kyr_1955_1_7290.jpg



Thank you very much for your attention and hopefully your help!



DutchCrusader



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31/08/2010 10:55

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Sorry, wrong link to the map - this is the right one: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/kyr_1955_1_7290.jpg



iceman


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31/08/2010 11:05

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hans

you are looking in the wrong place for the medieval tower



DutchCrusader



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31/08/2010 11:16

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Hi Iceman! I'm sure there has been a medieval tower in that area. But I think it's located in the wrong place on the 1955 map - the restaurant on the corner, opposite the Customs house, has the shape of a round (not: horseshoe) tower and may have been built on the fundaments or base of the vanished medieval tower.

See tower E on this map: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/Kyr_1300-dreghorn-1991_walk_72.jpg



Kambylikid


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31/08/2010 11:23

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I have an aerial photo of the harbour taken in 1957. It shows no tower near the customs house. The photo was taken by Wing Commander R Edwards.



iceman


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31/08/2010 11:29

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Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqcAqq9

It is still there today but covered by plenty of buildings



http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=35.34105,33.31899&spn=0.001602,0.003433&z=19



The photographer was roughly standing where Bandabuliya (old market place) building is now, facing north..

The Church is seen in the background...there was no buildings there then (1877)



iceman


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31/08/2010 11:32

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Have no info on the E tower...must have been knocked down very long time ago.



DutchCrusader



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31/08/2010 11:37

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Iceman, your picture shows the horseshoe shaped tower (half open) with the letter B on my map. It was a wall tower and most probably there was another one in the (vanished) city wall between A (the Round tower) and D (remarkable for the time when it was built: the square tower where we now find the 19th century Greek Orthodox church, now the Icon Museum).

http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/Kyr_1300-dreghorn-1991_walk_72.jpg



DutchCrusader



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31/08/2010 11:41

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RE msg 5, Kambylikid (...) I have an aerial photo of the harbour taken in 1957. It shows no tower near the customs house. The photo was taken by Wing Commander R Edwards. (...)

=> May I kindly ask for a copy or even better: may I borrow the photograph for a day and scan that picture?



iceman


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31/08/2010 11:48

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Hans

According to Dreghorn's illustration,the missing Tower E must have been where Martı fish restaurant is now.



DutchCrusader



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31/08/2010 11:54

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Right Iceman! And so the map (msg 1) by Philip Newman from 1955 is wrong, which is the answer to my question nr. 2 in msg 1!



iceman


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31/08/2010 12:02

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Hans

According to this info..the map in your msg 1 is correct.



DutchCrusader



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31/08/2010 15:18

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Thank you all for your interest in this TRNC subject: one Turkish Cypriot and one English gentleman whom I know to be/feel like a Turkish Cypriot. Next time I'll write Karaoke or Marmite in the header.



dublinderm


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31/08/2010 15:49

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Interesting topic, but I had no information to offer.



DD



flightholiday


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31/08/2010 16:02

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Hans if you were to write Marmite in the header more might look many might reply but most of the answers would be wrong at least this way you have the right ones.



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 15, Tom: 3x



ang1706


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31/08/2010 20:27

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Hans,



If you want to know anything about Kyrenia especially around the Harbour. Speak to Bingal who runs Windows Cafe across from Beledeysi in Girne.

He has a wealth of old photos coupled along with his knowledge Im sure you will find a chat with him very very interesting.



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