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wynyardman



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Sky news reports that he will face a bail hearing at The Old Bailey. He will be told what if any charges he will have to face.



More worrying for him is that he will also face bankrupcy. Will his North Cyprus assets be protected?



Will justice be served?



wyn



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Wyn



Because there is no extradition agreement between the UK and TRNC, then I suspect that any potential recovery of assets (should that be deemed necessary) would have to be in agreement with the TRNC government. As a strong supporter of the UDP party, I would guess that his assets will be safe for the timebeing



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Paul,

you said "...any potential recovery of assets...would have to be in agreement with the TRNC government..."

As the Uk Government doesn't even RECOGNISE the TRNC Government, I think that's a non-starter! - regardless of which team you support



kavenkoy


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03/09/2010 11:14

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half the charges have allready been dropped.



would think the cpo will have a nightmare trying to proove whats what after all these years .

imagine charges then and no evidence ,or witness statements now .



be home soon or the house arrest will be taken into account when or if a sentence is passed



kav



wynyardman



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Asil Nadir,



Trial set Oct 2011.... Electronically tagged......subject to a curfew....Solicitors will try for abuse of process



to try to have the whole trial thrown out in Mar 2011.



Asil was said to not look very happy when he left The Old Bailey



Sky News.



wyn



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03/09/2010 19:47

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"Asil was said to not look very happy when he left The Old Bailey"

Shame..



wynyardman



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03/09/2010 20:02

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Hector,



£200 million would make me smile. Perhaps they turned down his PTP on Pre 74 Turkish property.



wynyardman



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03/09/2010 20:04

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I'm with you Wyn. What about £100m each? )



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According to tonight's 6.00 news (BBC), Mr Nadir will not face trial until October 2011, although his lawyers are trying to have it thrown out all together.



wynyardman



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03/09/2010 20:34

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No 1 Doyen,



I dont want any small change mind. It pulls your shorts round your knees!



wyn



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03/09/2010 21:51

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Trial date set provisonally for October 2011 he has to have electronic tag is subject to curfew and has to report to police once a week. 66 charges have been reduced to 15 and 183 witnesses who had been due to give evidence in the original trial have to be traced. Meanwhile he is staying in a £20,000 a month mansion in Mayfair.



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03/09/2010 22:57

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Msg 11

It's his house!



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msg 12. Sky news have it wrong then.



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Msg 12 all papers and tv including the interview with Kay Burley on sky said it was rented.



Lilli



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His house was sold to russian billionaires some time ago x



Glasbury


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I thought I would just point out that in the letters section of the Daily Mail this Thursday there was quite a long letter from a gentleman in Bethnal Green who had nothing but good things to say about Asil Nadir. I am not going to reproduce the whole letter as it was quite long but the last paragraph said "He did nothing crooked: you can't blame one man for the collapse of a large organisation". Interesting.



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04/09/2010 18:19

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the interest he gets from his trnc bank will easily pay the 20k per month london pad rental , small change really for him .



MUSIN M


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the deal has already been done ,why do you think his there.



the tories have put up the bail ,,,,,just joking i think..trust me it,s a done deal.





musin



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cyprusjoker


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Have to agree with Musin long live, he's not stupid



Hector


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Have to wonder just what has driven him to take the risk of a prison sentence. His finances may not be as good as people surmise and he risks his creditors coming after him big time. 12 months before his criminal trial should give them ample opportunity to go after any money he has. He is certainly putting up a great front. Attack is the best form of defence they say.



wynyardman



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04/09/2010 20:28

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What happened to Polly Peck PLC TRNC assets?



wyn



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"Polly Peck PLC TRNC assets?"



Make your mind up,one minute we dont exist and next.................



nilmoney


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04/09/2010 20:45

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Fantastic that he has so much faith in the British legal system like we have with the trnc legal system

I wonder if he gets stuffed like us expats who have bought properties .



Good luck Mr Asil Nadir!

But if like us don't hold your breath.



MUSIN M


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prehaps nepotism also exists in the uk .







musin





long live the kktc



wynyardman



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04/09/2010 20:53

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Yorguslu,



The TRNC assets were on Polly Pecks balance sheet, They were certified by their TRNC Auditors. Please check your facts, and then please tell me where they dissappeared to. We called the island Cyprus. It was Turkey and TCs who chose to designate the north TRNC.



What happenned to Polly Peck PLC north cyprus/ TRNC assets.?



wyn



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04/09/2010 20:54

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Ever felt like you were wasting your breath Wyn ?



MUSIN M


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wyn



what level of concern do you have for polly peck plc trnc assets and why in particular these.





musin



long live the kktc



yorgozlu



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04/09/2010 21:00

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wyn;



"It was Turkey and TCs who chose to designate the north TRNC"



Have you ever wandered why?



wynyardman



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04/09/2010 21:11

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cronus Yes!



Musim/ Yorgoslu.



I respect the way that you guys stand up for The TRNC, though I dont understand why you choose to reside in London, when it suits you..



You are both in denial over the reality of property purchase in The TRNC.



We are bound by contracts whilst there is money still outstanding on it. As soon as it is paid, the contract is not worth the paper it is written on. And that came from my advocate and Marion Stokes.



Pay the stamp duty and you are protected from ANY FURTHER ENCUMBERANCE. Oh that does not includre "memorandums". They are issued by the courts.



I asked my TRNC advocate if anything else could go wrong. No he said as he took another £13.5K from me..



Two weeks later he said well we didnt realise memorandums would outrank registration.



Fine I said, You have left us in a right pickle. I will sue. No point he says as we do not owe you a duty of care, and in any event we do not carry PI insurance.



Now Yorgoslu,



yorgozlu



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04/09/2010 21:16

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wyn;



We are going off topic here but,



Dont for one single second think that I agree with whats happening to you and all others (inc TCs).

However,tit for tat will get you nowhere.



wynyardman



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04/09/2010 21:19

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I know when I have been hoodwinked and I know who by!



I do not wish to live in a lawless society so please give me my kochan so I can sell, or give me my money back, Snigger you may, but who is going to support your corrupt society, when the Brits have been bled dry?



A word of advise. Dont rely on the Russians. They have a worse track record than you lot, and your tourism will suffer.



TURKEY. Well of course. They are already well p----sed off with the TRNC, and those guys really do know how to crack the whip. Remember 74? the GCs do.



What we are talking about is a breach of good faith.



Is that how you wish to be seen, in international circles.



Happy Ramadan to you and yours.



wynyardman



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04/09/2010 21:34

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Good work wyn, never never give up and I wish you and all others well in receiving whats rightfully yours..





Good wishes to you all.





Spider,X



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04/09/2010 21:59

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thought this thread was about Asil Nadir !!!!!!



wynyardman



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Hi peeps,



Messages 29 and 31 should have been posted on Ex Pats, do you think it is time to go home thread. I have asked the moderators if it can be changed transposed.



If that is not possible, please accept my most humble appologies.



wynyardman



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04/09/2010 22:27

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That's okay. I was getting a little confused.



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