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DeaconB


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It is so ironic that Azil Nadir, having fled like a thief in the night, returns to the UK and gets millions of pounds of free publicity and media coverage, whilst demanding that he be given justice. I for one hope that he gets just that, cleared if innocent punished if guilty. That’s what generally happens in a civilised country. What a shame that this is not possible in the TRNC and the residents of Kulaksiz 5 and others in a similar situation cannot have proper justice. Where is their justice going to come from in such a corrupted country? Has anyone had one single positive response back for a UK MP or MEP because I haven’t yet?



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DeaconB,



Well said. I could not agree more!



wyn



Lilli



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Who is picking up the bill for his return and trial, the taxpayers again i expect. Maybe now is the time to really start lobbying with this going on and the spotlight on cyprus.



Bradus


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DeaconB,



I have had a very positive reply from Nick Clegg who has now referred me to William Hague, foreign Secretary.

I will keep you informed.



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Well done Bradus. I still await a reply from the MP for Scarborough and Whitby, Mr Goodwill.

Geoff



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Well done Bradus ... unfortunately no reply from my MEP ... though seeing as I have lived away from Gloucestershire for so long, replying to me is probably not top of his list of things to do :-(



yorgozlu



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KESER DONER SAP DONER,GUN GELIR HESAP DONER

























See how many of you would be bothered enough to find out the true meaning of above very old turkish saying.



greenman


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Is it, 'someday everything will change?'

Currently it's more like :

aşağı tükürsen sakal yukarı tükürsen bıyık



spider


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Yorgo...Please tell me if you were born a Brit..If so why on earth do you come on an ex-pat forum board SPOUTING anything in Turkish..Why so often...My Father came from Lithuania my Mother from Scotland and I was born in England I do not right in Polish and call myself Polish ! I love Scotland but do not say I am a SCOTS Lass...Please always remember that your builder for your 2up 2 down back in your homeland DID NOT and only because it would not be allowed sell you your home having been to a bank back in your homeland and given them the title deeds FIRST..I hope that everyone has been in contact with their MPs asking for help and for them to look into things here to enable this government to GAIN some bloody help in the mess they have got then selves in..I am sure your saying typed in Turkish may be of some comfort to some on here so therefore WHY cant you type the darn thing in ENGLISH your language...or perhaps support some Turkish forum ) ) Just my thoughts yorgo !



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Bradus

'I have had a very positive reply from Nick Clegg who has now referred me to William Hague, foreign Secretary.'



Don't expect a reply from William Hague any time soon as he has embarked on a damage limitation exercise regarding his sexual preferences. I think he is going to be busy for quite some time!

AJ



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AJ everyone is entitled to free time and fun ) unless he has been charging the expenses ! then that would be a darn liberty...a bit like the builders here ! and should I also add South side too. !





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AlsancakJack



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My father used to tell me that 'nothing ever stays the same' and he was right. Do not expect your dream to be a dream forever because there is always something or someone that will come along and ruin it all for you.

AJ



spider


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I like to say yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery and today is a gift..live it as best you can thats all we can do..but except the things we can not change, Have courage to change the things we can so if by sending letters to MPs might help and it makes people feel better by doing something its much better that doing nothing at all...I did start a thread one Demonstrate Demonstrate in thousands to be told it is against the law here..but its is not to rob someone of their homes ! So I say good luck to all the people who are helping other become more aware.





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yorgozlu



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greenman-msg 8



In a round about way it means,"what goes round, comes around"





spider-msg 9;

Keep your knickers on please.

You could have easily googled it.I just wanted to see if anyone would've been able to work out the true meaning,thats all.

AND;

I'm not interested in hearing someones life story on an open forum,nor I'm going to give mine.

May I also take this opportunity to remind you of the fact that you now live in Turkish Repuplic of Northern Cyprus,where the language used is turkish.



wynyardman



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Yorgo,



I think we should hold Asil Nadir, until the TRNC give us our unencumbered kochans.



Then to ensure fair play, we could return him to The TRNC, with Gary Robb.



Just my thoughts thats all.



wyn



DeaconB


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The government don’t want either of them back Wyn.

They both know too much and leave plenty good assets behind.



wynyardman



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DeaconB,



Good point.



That should draw comments from Musim and Yorgu.



I wonder if he would swop his villa in Lapta, with ours in Esentepe, only I think his has probably got a kochan on his. Dont think he would have shown the same tolerance as we have had to with our builder, if he had not.



wyn



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Dave. Your Father was spot on.



MUSIN M


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aj



life,s about changes ,nothing ever stays the same ,like it or not eh.





musin





long live the kktc



wynyardman



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Musim &AJ,Msgs 12 and 19



And the point being? (sounds depressive to me).



My father (deceased )used to say. Life is what you make it! and personally I prefer my fathers version.



Just my view, thats all.



wyn



Bradus


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My mum use to say stand up for yourself because if you don't,then no one else will...



And standing up for yourself defines you as being a person of pride,who values your morals and beliefs...going with the flow,dismisses this and allows you to become one of the many sheep in this world...And I believe there are far too many sheep for my liking.



Lilli



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I agree with what you say Bradus, my mum said the same as i was always picked on in school. Sadly you will get the shephard and then the sheep xxx keep being that shephard girl we need you xxx



cronos


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Yorgo...msg 7..."KESER DONER SAP DONER,GUN GELIR HESAP DONER"



Could I have mine with extra chilli sauce please ?



AlsancakJack



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Lilli

Message 22: Baaaaa



Take care.

AJ



yorgozlu



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wyn;



Asil Nadir's assets in TRNC are untouchable.I wander if you know why?



cronos


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Yorgo...."Asil Nadir's assets in TRNC are untouchable.I wander if you know why?"





Is it because the TRNC is a haven for criminals....of all nationalities ?



wynyardman



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Beat me to it there Cronus! After you with the chilli sauce!



wyn



yorgozlu



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cronos;

"Is it because the TRNC is a haven for criminals....of all nationalities "



NO,Asil Nadir is CYPRIOT.



I guess you are talking about the Brittish, ie. Gary Robb since nothing has been proven against Asil Nadir YET!I'm also more then aware of the amount of international criminals that are living in TRNC ,specialy from UK. .............in fact in all honesty,from my own expiriance at least half of you from UK are criminals,otherwise you wouldnt be here in the first place.



None of you are going to fool me,I know both sides TOO WELL.



Next victim please............................



wynyardman



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Yourgoslu,



Quite!



wyn



cronos


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Yorgo...careful...true colours and all that !



Give 'em enough rope as they say !



Bradus


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Yourgoslu.



Well there you have it. Half of all people buying in the TRNC from Britain are criminals?????????







This is now embarrassing. You are coming across as barking!



yorgozlu



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Only 3 so far!



apc2010


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yorgo could be right....???



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10182820



apc2010


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http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/Wakefield-900000-laundering-charges-for.5850680.jp



apc2010


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maybe the net is tighting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/derbyshire/7642752.stm



DeaconB


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I would handover all the expats crooks and absconders from justice in the blink of an eye. I don’t believe any of this,” I can’t get a fair trial in the UK” nonsense that they come out with for a second.



Lets start a 'dob in a crook' thread and see if we can identify any.



There are many crooks in the TRNC it is true but most of them are in the guise of ministers, advocates, builders and estate agents how many of them will the tin pot government give up?



honestie


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sorry Yorgo couldnt resist



"in fact in all honesty from my own experience"



enlighten us what is your experience Im sure we would all love to know could be another thread !



wynyardman



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Deacon B,Msg36



According to Yorgoslu half the British that reside in the TRNC are "Criminals"



That should give you plenty to go at when you start your "dob in a crook campaign"





wynyardman



spider


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OH but would you ever found one that used just one passport ? or one nationality ..





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yorgozlu



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It doesnt take alot to find out yourselves.All you have to do is knock on the doors and ask 'when was the last time they had been to UK?'



blade


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At the end of July, so that counts me out!



spider


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Mr Spider says he will never set foot back home, I wonder why now )







Spider X



honestie


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come on yogo msg 37



whats your experience



spider


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honestie He had duel nationality two passports ! Work that one out..something tells me today I would like a Canadian one ) and a trip to the Rockies.. Ye Harrr.





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yorgozlu



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spider;

Whats me being able to have duel nationalities got to do with ?As for passaports,I'm surprised that you know alot less then I've credited you for.



hoestie;

I live in Lapta,come round and I'll show you the ones around here.



honestie


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Well shouldnt imagine they are any differant than some of the ones I know too and think my experience may be a little more than yours unfortunately. And Justice comes in many ways. AS the thread started Nadir has chosen to go back to UK to clear his name and must think he has a fair chance and at least hes got one but no doubt there will be many posts saying hes never going to get one cos its the UK government !



Just as the Kulaksiz 5 wont as its the TRNC government.



If anyone has read David Ikes books Im now begining to think he was right and not a complete madman

Just as Angels and demons and the da vicini code were a bit near to the truth.



Governments who would have them!



Pugwash


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A N would not have returned to the UK if things had not been "sorted out" he knows a lot about what went on then and he is for sure not the only culprit, funny how he returned only "AFTER" the election, coincidence? I think not.



honestie


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totally agree pugwash



as I say governments!



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