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spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 12:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 85 in Discussion |
| As we are not refugees like the people in France are, who are getting sent BACK..I was just thinking what might happen here if say everyone with a British passport were told they had 1 month to leave...That would include the TCs who have one, or would they all just show what ever passport suits the WHEN !..Well DC would be safe and a few others, for sure the night clubs would still be going strong ) But the Island would be full of empty houses and bars, but thats what its like at the moment !.the rubbish would still be here more dead dogs about thats for sure ! Would you be able to 'Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile,smile smile '....and what do you think would come of North Cyprus ) Spider,X |
spider

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| I ask this because I have just had contact after many years, a good 20yrs, from a friend of mine who has been living in Canada the past 5yrs and she is having a wonderful time with the cowboys over there and that just put a smile on my face ) and it looks wonderful too. Back to the Topic..What do you think would come of North Cyprus ? Spider,X |
ricooper123

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| The country would be bankrupt sooner rather than later. The Brits and their money are whats keeping the country going. They are that thick they cannot see it. |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 85 in Discussion |
| My thoughts too there would be no banks..they too would close down ) Spider,X |
clifhanger

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 85 in Discussion |
| GUIDOS WOULD CLOSE !!!!!!!!!! |
flightholiday

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 85 in Discussion |
| Richard Msg 3 - I am not sure about the TRNC not being bankrupt (just like the UK). I suspect if the finances were known to us you would not find it is the expats and visitors who keep North Cyprus afloat but Turkey. |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 85 in Discussion |
| flightholiday we already know that, but they do not do it alone ! Spider,X |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 85 in Discussion |
| Here is an idea, all of the brits that think they are trthe saviours of the North Cyprus economy go back to the UK for 6 months and we will be able to see if the theory the all of the retired brits are what saves the place. I know som of you won't like that comment but please enlighten me on how much money you are actually spending in the country on a monthly basis that justifies the comment, please. |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 85 in Discussion |
| PAUL....Please do stick to the topic....and just for you the topic is not about going home for 6months.. ) Jack you need a rest ) lighten UP.. sPIDER,x |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 85 in Discussion |
| I agree with ricooper123. The first two points. |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 85 in Discussion |
| spider 'Jack you need a rest ) lighten UP.. ' Who was that aimed at? I think it is you that needs a rest. |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 85 in Discussion |
| there would be a lot of people out of work as they wont be able to collect car taxes, residency costs medical costs etc. What would they do with all the vacant houses. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 85 in Discussion |
| The sad fact is that more and more 'brits' are leaving the TRNC every year never to retun. |
proger1


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| spider, I am confused, you just agreed with flightholiday but said that the brits were also part of the economical saviour of the country, I merely suggested a way to prove it. How was that not on topic. |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 85 in Discussion |
| Paul you were asking how much people may be spending..that to me is a question.. Spider,X |
vonny

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 85 in Discussion |
| I agree with proger1..Spider do you think its because of the Brits that the TRNC has survived or is surviving? |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 13:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 85 in Discussion |
| yes spider it was a question, still don't see how it was not on topic but no need to answer, I can see from several posts that I am either getting really, really annoying or I am asking questions that people don't want me to ask. I will go away for a while and everyone will be happy |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 14:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 85 in Discussion |
| i wont Paul x |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 14:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 85 in Discussion |
| Oh Paul come back your views are important..Please ) Spider.X |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 14:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 85 in Discussion |
| Lilli, at the risk of getting into trouble for hijacking. I am going away from the forum because I will be at home and able to see what is going on in NC without the need to read about it so if I need to get an answer from you I will jsut come and see you darling, spider, that could be construde as sarcasm but thats OK, I probably deserve it. My view is important to me as long as it doesn't disagree with me |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 14:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 85 in Discussion |
| i hope you do Paul x |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 14:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 85 in Discussion |
| Paul my comment was never intended to be or sound sarcastic and I am sorry if you have taken it that way,so I will now leave you a KISS.X.. Paul how would you see North Cyprus decline if all who had a British passport were asked to leave ? Spider,X |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 14:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 85 in Discussion |
| my darling lady spider (being arachnophobic, I really never thought I would ever say that), That is a different question alltogether to my understanding of the last. As sad as it is to admit, I don't think it would have an overall long term effect. It would be noticaable to start with by the local economy having a drop in bar and restaurant trades as well as the supermarkets but I don't think the country gains a great deal from that in the end. I believe sincerely that the majority of the UK funding goes to UK backed places. The tourism might go down for a couple of years but others would start to come in. There would be a lot of empty houses and I suppose that would affect some of the infrastructure but the endemic issue to me would be that the NC has not gained a great deal from us being here. Turkish immigrants have increased to deal with the additional requirements to the country but then Turkey has had to assist more financially, catch 22 IMO |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 14:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 85 in Discussion |
| Back to the original question: 'What would happen if we all went home' I would be a happy man. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 15:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 85 in Discussion |
| Dave. You don't mean that. ;) |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 15:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 85 in Discussion |
| Paul. I'm sure Spider didn't mean anything. |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 15:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 85 in Discussion |
| Bill, I realise that, I meant to say that the comment could be taken either way, I just didn't describe it very well, I think she knows that, she is after all my favourite short heaired 2 legged beastie |
sunshine22


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 16:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 85 in Discussion |
| Spider's not a Haggis Paul :o) |
zerochlor

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 16:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 85 in Discussion |
| it would be even more of a buyers market. |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 16:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 85 in Discussion |
| sunshine, I know many people believe that a haggis has only two legs with the males being on the left hand side of thier body and the females on the right but when the hair is fully removed it is possible to see the other two legs known as the upsters due to them being on the uphill side of the body. This as you well know is to stop them falling over on the steep slopes as they traverse through the heather. |
sunshine22


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 16:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 85 in Discussion |
| Sorry Paul could not resist when I read your description of our dear Spider, your reply is quite accurate though :o) |
yorgozlu


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 16:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 85 in Discussion |
| msg 1,spider; Simple answer to your question, NOTHING. As for myself,I might try Ireland next time as I'm entitled to Irish citizenship as well,or maybe south or even Turkey...............what the hell...........let you know when I decide. |
Stonehousepub

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 16:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 85 in Discussion |
| Is the island not full of empty bars & houses now ?? To be quite honest I don't think the TRNC would even notice if all British passport holders left this half of the island. I don't think anyone should be consoling themselves thinking that Brits are keeping the island on it's feet. Yes they contribute & yes Brits are a valueable part of the TRNC community but i'm afraid the TRNC would & could quite happily plod along without... |
MartinM

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 85 in Discussion |
| The supermarkets would be slightly overstocked with baked beans and bacon. Domestic labour would be cheaper. Car prices would plummet. KAR would go to the dogs. The superb blood collection activities would dry up. IKEA would fold as would the Indian restaurants. Cyprus today would go back to being 4 pages long. Brits would finally be welcomed with open arms . Tax revenues would not change much, see Black Market. End to car boot sales and auction houses.....Pegasos might close. |
TopTen

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 85 in Discussion |
| What would happen to the ambulance service as I am led to believe it was through donations from brits that there is a service at all.Blood donor days, brits that give their time and money raising funds for little Ismail , the family that lost their home in Karsiyaka, the list goes on. |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 85 in Discussion |
| The TRNC Government published a figure (in about 2005) of 40% income as a percentage of their total budget from the total raised from the ex-pat community. That's 40% whilst extracting very little... we pay for our own health treatment etc. and no social security benefits etc. That they estimate 40% probably means it's actually a higher.... |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 85 in Discussion |
| I am sure if the Brits and others that want to go, do go it will make little difference to anyone or anything |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 85 in Discussion |
| Groucho so thats say more than 50% of revenue would be lost, Far more unemployment..I wonder if they would let people from Turkey come and go without the having to go through residency etc ? Its looking like it could well go under ! Spider,X |
speedster

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 85 in Discussion |
| ricooper123 are u saying that cypriots are thick ? |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 85 in Discussion |
| I am sure many expats have an over estimation of their worth! (to the TRNC) |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 85 in Discussion |
| pugwash message 37..the question was what would happen if we were told to leave, what would happen to North Cyprus..How in your eyes would you see things go. Spider,X |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 85 in Discussion |
| It would make little or no difference you would be replaced by "others" the question that you pose ie "told to leave" is not a likely reality, if people want to leave then do so, but the reality is no one will be "told to leave" unless you are "Gary Robb" or "Maggot Pete" etc |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 85 in Discussion |
| Bill 'Dave. You don't mean that. ;)' The longer I live here the more I despair about Brit expats. The majority really do not bring anything to the TRNC (with a few exceptions). I am going to go down in history as accusing most Brit expats of trying to turn the TRNC into a 'Little Britain'. There you go. Rant over and done with. |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 17:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 85 in Discussion |
| AJ, I will give you a run for your money on that one. Sorry spider, to get back to the post relevence, it is nice to hear that we as brits have done some good things like the ambulance, Chris and the TRNC Healthcare, DC, the BRS and Chris again with the blood drive, Lee and Barry and Cheshire homes as well as many others for Ismail and other good causes but lets face it, we do tend to knock the whole system quite a lot if looked at as a group and that doesn't reflect that well on us. |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 18:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 85 in Discussion |
| There is always an element of Little Britain in any British ex-pat enclave, and let's face it that's exactly what we find ourselves in... They exist in France, Spain, Portugal and many, many more.... the list is very nearly endless. Why some can't adequately adapt is a deeper issue. |
waddo

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 18:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 85 in Discussion |
| I find it a bit of a strange question to ask what would happen to NC if we all left because we were told to. After all we all left - wherever we came from - because WE told ourselves to do so. What happened to the countries we all left then? Are they still there and getting on with life without us or did the crash and burn because we took away our massive (lets say 25,000 strong) spending power? I bet the country you left never even noticed your passing! NC would not notice it either apart from a few less cars on the road and a reduced requirement to have to speak English. So, give me a month - that is generally twice as long as the military normally gave me - and we would be packed and ready to leave to another country. Certainly never back to where we came from because as they did not notice our leaving they probably would not welcome our return anyway. Turkey for me - I can take my dog on the ferry!!! |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 18:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 85 in Discussion |
| The question has nothing to do with wanting a little Britain or if one has deeds or not.. How would North Cyprus turn out..in your opinion..If the Brits were not here. Spider,X |
proger1


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 18:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 85 in Discussion |
| Groucho, you are correct to a certain point. There is I agree an element of little britain in any British ex-pat enclave (and this is where I disagree with you) where the brit ex-pats believe that they might hold some sway with the local government. I refer to the middle eastern ex-pat societies where they realise that if the government decides something the ex-pats realise it is pointless even trying to argue as this will be looked at in a worse light than just not following the decision. |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 18:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 85 in Discussion |
| It would probably be a lot better if "some"of the expats here left, as would Spain, Portugal and others, they do not add to society or really help in any way. However if you are talking about "ALL" expats leaving ? for some bizarre reason? then maybe that would have a profound impact, but it would not be terminal for sure. |
proger1


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| spider, I think for the most part it might be an improvement but mainly because of the little britain thing so for me it might not have anything to do with the question but it does relate to the answer. sorry X |
breezyboy

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| What a bloody stupid question. What will people do with the money when Gary Robb comes back and repays all that he owes??? Wont it be great when the bubbles agree to all TRNC requests without any arguments at all??? Will we get a better deal when Pte Pike becomes president of TRNC??? |
LaptaMike

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 18:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 85 in Discussion |
| msg 1, even more Russians will move here ;-) Couldn't care less myself, seem pleasant enough. |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 19:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 85 in Discussion |
| Mike the Russians may well move in and yes they are nice people, What do you think the Russians would bring to North Cyprus and please remember that you would NOT be here..The Brits have gone.. ) ) What would North Cyprus be like and how would it survive.. Spider,X |
proger1


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| I know one particular russian that I would really like to think she would bring a Scotsman with her, and on that note I am out of here on the grounds that I want to be around for a while yet and getting into the russians discussions is more than my lifes worth. |
wynyardman


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| What would happen if we all went home? I suspect that we would all sit at our computers, sign on to Cyprus 44, and winge that we had been deprived of our investments by an inadequate Government and legal system. Once more....give me my kochan or return my investment, and I will go home! (The UK) Reading some postings, I am seriously concerned with the neighbours we could end up with, if we stayed in the TRNC It certainly aint British, and I am used to a robust legal system. and fair play in MY dealings. wyn |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 19:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 85 in Discussion |
| Wyn..do you think the country would loose much if they lost all the Brits ? Would they survive if at all ? Spider,X |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 19:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 85 in Discussion |
| Spider, It is my considered opinion that the economy of The TRNC would collapse without the investment and support of the British community. Of course much revenue can be generated from whore houses and gambling but it would make it very difficult to incorpoate a rogue and illegal state, into the International community. Personally I would take the easy way out. Play straight with the British over their committments, and contributions to the immovable property sector, sue for some sort of peace with the GCs (the Annan Plan sounded good to me ) Sort out your legislature, and make your advocates accept that they have a duty of care to their clients, supported by Professional Indemnity Insurance. Guarantee that PTP applications are treated fairly, and responded to in 3 months. THEN you may well have a paradise, that is the envy of The International Community, where everyone would seek a stake! Just my views thats all. wynyardman |
MUSIN M

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 22:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 85 in Discussion |
| spider if you feel north cyprus is a hard place to live ,trust me you won,t make 6minutes in the uk nevermind 6 months. musin long live the kktc |
Pugwash

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| The point is it is a stupid question! As was mentioned above If those that want to go do go it will be a better place and they will not be missed in the overall scheme of things, However in the unlikely event that "all expats" are made to leave well that may be a different matter, however I suspect we will not be missed in the long run, from wherever we come. |
Pugwash

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| And no I am not English by birth but I am a UK passport holder by right. |
Groucho


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| "Groucho, you are correct to a certain point. There is I agree an element of little britain in any British ex-pat enclave (and this is where I disagree with you) where the brit ex-pats believe that they might hold some sway with the local government. I refer to the middle eastern ex-pat societies where they realise that if the government decides something the ex-pats realise it is pointless even trying to argue as this will be looked at in a worse light than just not following the decision." Paul, don't you think that's exactly how it works here too? Only the delusional would believe that they have any say in how things work. No vote, no representation. It's a fact of life. |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 22:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 85 in Discussion |
| If anyone has managed to make it back home, could you make a meeting outside the Turkish Embassy in London on the 4th October? I am not trying to hi-jack the thread, just make it as plain as I can, that anyone with a grievance, can let their feelings known peacefully, in London! you don't have to be English by birth, or a UK passport holder, just a victim of TRNC Law! or TRNC Justice! Please join us |
Stonehousepub

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 22:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 85 in Discussion |
| Spider.. Do you think North cyprus would collapse if Brits left ? How long have you been in the TRNC ? What would you say Brits have done for North Cyprus and what would you say attracted Brits to this piece of heaven ;) |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 22:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 85 in Discussion |
| Musin The question is what would happen if all the Brits left ?..As it seems to me that Turkey and the Brits are keeping North Cyprus going..Your Thread asking is it time the Brits went home has had a good response with some very good postings. And your thread was a question. Again perhaps you could give you opinion because my view is that North Cyprus would go to pot, with no one visiting no one investing..and if perhaps it may get inundated with Russian investors they would do so only to bring in more Night Clubs with more girls..Just my views..so we do not need to amuse how long I would last back home. ! Spider,X |
yorgozlu


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 22:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 85 in Discussion |
| It's time for the 'chip' to be flicked off!!!!!!!! |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 22:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 85 in Discussion |
| I'm pretty sure there would be a few people who would be glad to see the back of the 'Brits'. But they're in the minority. |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 22:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 85 in Discussion |
| Please also remember that most of the flights to North Cyprus are lets say over 50% full of Brits who live here or relatives coming to visit those that are living here...So would that mean no flights altogether maybe even maybe not even to the mother Land Turkey ! Its looking far worse than one could even imagine..If the Brits all left.. Spider,X |
Stonehousepub

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 85 in Discussion |
| anyone know what percentage of the NC population is British ? Not including UK TC's |
oceana

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 85 in Discussion |
| Spider, most flights to Cyprus are from Istanbul, Ankara, Adana, Izmir.twice or 3 times a day from the same city, same plane doing the same route over and over. there's 3 or 4 flights to london in a week. Your percentage is well high. |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 85 in Discussion |
| Stonehousepub..a very good question but why not include the UK TCs ? would they not be British and counted upon the birth registration in England..I foe one would be interested in the number of all British here in North Cyprus. Spider,X |
vonny

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 85 in Discussion |
| im sorry spider,i really dont agree with you, if all the brits left,hey could survive with out you. Do you know how many planes fly in and out of turkey alone carrying Turkish/turkish Cypriots alone? The uni's, how many Brits come over from Britain to be educated there? There are quite a lot from Turkey and other countries that pay to be educated here,,Then they need somewhere to rent,somewhere to eat. Also,go to Lefkosa.. The restaurants are full of Turkish Cypriots . most shops there are bustling with cypriot shoppers. Brits take up a small area of Cyprus, they wouldnt be missed very much. i know many Cypriots that do very well they go on holiday they have nice cars,some own 2 houses here and they didnt get that because of the British. |
vonny

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 85 in Discussion |
| and can i say a UK Turk wants to come and live here still has to do his army service even if he was born in uk,so what happens to him,does he get chucked out as soon as hes done his service coz he holds a british passport? |
Stonehousepub

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 85 in Discussion |
| Spider No particular reason for not including UK TC's . Just more interested in finding out how many non TC brits actually live in North Cyprus. Having a guess I would say 7-10 thousand maybe 1-2% of the population. |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 85 in Discussion |
| stonehouse very interesting so whats the ratio now betwen mainland turks and tcs. I know we wouls=d not be missed the path is already being paved for the russians. Have you any idea how many non british passport holder live here also, so are we welcome x |
spider

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 85 in Discussion |
| vonny I agree will a lots of what you say, But when I have flown back and forth most get off a Turkey, and I might add that the planes are not just carrying the Brits that live here relatives that are visiting but also Brith TCs coming back and forth..some staying other visiting...So a very very lot of Brits that would no longer be bringing revenue into North Cyprus..If the Brits all went home. remember its not If all the British TCs stay or go... ) The flights may well continue to Turkey..but they are already going bankrupt thrying to keep flights to North Cyprus...My thoughts only but my bet is North Cyprus would be bugged and bankrupt well sorry it is already ! So vonny even your many friends that may have two villas here would be up the creek without a paddle because of the economy crisis )) Some may well feel that this may be a silly question and maybe not see the point of such a question either..But my point is. what or how would you see things change If all the Brits went, S |
vonny

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Message Posted: 06/09/2010 23:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 85 in Discussion |
| Spider i agree with you saying about turkish people getting off the plane in turkey but thats because its a plane going to the uk stopping off in turkey, of course they are going to use it. the plane isnt full enough to take just British people. then in Turkey you'll find more British people boarding the plane to fillthe seats. but what about all the planes that are not flying to the uk?. and you'll find the Turkish planes are not going bankrupt it was 1 company but that was because of another reason. i dont think you've asked a silly question at all but you cant think that if you all leave Northern cyprus will be finished because your only a small minority. UK Turks will always visit here because they have family here and although they dont all live here they love their country and will always support it |
Stonehousepub

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 85 in Discussion |
| Im just guessing Lilli, in hope that someone may have some more exact figures. I would say mainland Turks out number TC's by 6-1 ... Is there something going on with the Russians that I don't know about?? |
apc2010

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 85 in Discussion |
| did n/cyprus exist before the "Expats" came..??? were they all goat farmers ???? How lucky all these investors came , against all rational advice............ |
HildySmith

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 85 in Discussion |
| There would be thousands of stray and unwanted pets/animals around the streets |
Bradus

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 85 in Discussion |
| The effect would be minimal. Yes some bars/restaurants/furniture shops would see their profits fall and undoubtedly some will go out of business. We know this because many are admitting to struggling now and are worried about the winter months. The construction industry, already seeing falls, would also notice the effects. (there is already a 50% fall in property purchases). It would also have an impact on the Banks as most people have downsized and their savings are then put into TRNC/Turkish banks. Property, garden and pool maintenance and car hire companies would also probably notice a difference. So it would most likely be the small newly formed companies and the poorest in society that would see the most effects. The Casinos, brothels and black market trade would not be affected. The tourist industry would also take a hit.Taxes would be reduced but few have been collected anyway so again this would be barely noticed. Happy hour??????????? |
cronos

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 85 in Discussion |
| apc2010...msg 78..."were they all goat farmers ????" Maybe not....but according to my fantastic TC builder, many goat farmers miraculously became master builders overnight when the construction boom started ! |
apc2010

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 85 in Discussion |
| without the ex pat residents , if may become an interesting place to visit , culture with out karoake, or big developments ............. |
MUSIN M

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 85 in Discussion |
| if you believe that north cyprus would collapse if the brits went home ,you are all asleep. most brits come over from larnaca as a lot of tc,s also do ,so that will make little difference. goat farmers ,yes all turkish cypriots are goat farmers . musin long live the kktc |
spider

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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 00:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 84 of 85 in Discussion |
| cronos you should come and see the state of the poor new build going up beside us, Its for the farmers daughter, and the grow Olives and have just a few goats..but plenty of land..The family are putting it together for them very nice, but the roof has now been off three times, and they just keep coming back to look at it..shaking their heads then taking it down again ) would sure make a good comedy show like a lots of things over here.. Saying that honest I do love it. But what would happen if ALL the Brits left ) Spider,X |
proger1


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Message Posted: 07/09/2010 07:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 85 in Discussion |
| spider, I would change my nationality and miss you all, well some of you, OK one or two but they would probably change their nationality too so it would all be good but I can't say I would be overly sad about it. I haven't exactly been hiding my feelings about the british influence to NC of late but your question as well as the follow up questions are well put and it has been interesting to see some of the answers, I firmly believe that the british have an influence in NC but I would not say it is toatally positive or even that it helps to sustain the country however I live in a small area that still has a lot of working people so what I see every day is not necessarily the same as others. |
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