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davedee



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Suffered a stroke while on holiday in France.



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The BBC confirms your news. Errm, at 4.30 this afternoon.



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And your point !



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Sorry info for those who were not tuned into the BBC at 4.30.



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All British news here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/



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Come on AJ you had a go at suntanman for posting when he was looking for light relief after his dad passed away. What's the difference between this post and his? just interested 'nothing to do with NC'



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Steady nurse we could have a case of mistaken identity here,

Paul.



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Chris, John Higgins post 'nothing to do with TRNC' but interesting none the less.



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Good job we have a coalition government so that Clegg can keep the country going!

First Cameron has paternity leave for the birth of his child, now he'll want bereavement leave.

He's supposed to running the country. That is his first and last duty to every person in the UK. If he is unable to do that job then he should stand down and let someone else do it who is willing to give his life to the residents of the UK, and let NOTHING stand in the way of making Great Britain GREAT once more.

I have a duty of care to everyone of my customers to give them an experience of enjoyment. If I fail then I'm chastised severly and told to improve or get another job.

David Cameron has failed this country so much since coming to power. He's never where he's supposed to be. It's always upto Nick Clegg to be there.

In short....Cameron get out of number 10 and let someone who is 100% for Britain lead this country.



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A humming bird has to eat its own weight in food every day just to survive………..

Now that’s got nothing to do with here.

Look. Just some people have got few friends so what’s wrong with a post now and then to relieve the boredom?

Chegs



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Beggars belief we need this on CYP 44



Look at the BBC or others



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Dear Mr CAD Man,



Dont you feel that posting was unnescessary at the present time. My sympathies go out to David Cameron and his family.



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wynyardman i could not agree more you always get the wise guys ready to have a pop regardless of the circumstances cadman put yourself in David Cameron,s shoes for a moment.



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Zoony,

I would love too put myself in Camerons shoes. At least I'd put the UK in good order whilst dealing with all other things that happen in my life.

I run a restaurant and have to juggle my work life and home life. AND I do it particularly well.

In this world death and taxes are the only gauranteed things. Live with both, it isn't difficult. When my parents died it was just one of things that happen in life. Organise it into your life and get over it. My life goes on, I got on with it.

When I buried my father the funeral was at 11am, by 1pm I was back at work. When my mother died the funeral was at 3pm and I worked that day until 2.30pm as the Crematorium was only 15 minutes away.

In this world you have a duty to protect yourself and had I closed the shop up for several days then I would be letting my customers down, and to let down another human, in my mind, is just not something I do.

What happens when I die, I really don't care because I won't be around to complain about



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Often wondered why news items are posted on this forum? As everyone on this forum must see the news headlines when they initially log on to there computer surely. Am i missing something here



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one less expenses bill to pay , after the funeral of course , they,ll probablly have a right old knees up , at the tax payers expense ?



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I am just appalled and saddened that someone should use this Forum to try and score political points after the loss of a parent. Whoever they are or whatever their beliefs are, one surely should offer condolences on a sad occasion like this.



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RE msg 17, smwredd: (...) one surely should offer condolences on a sad occasion like this. (...)

=> Agreed - but why on this Bulletin Board, aimed at living in Northern Cyprus?! The same goes for message 1. Plenty of (British) news sites, Bulletin Boards, chat boxes and what have you, where Mr. Cameron's late father can be discussed as long as you wish. Why here?!



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Surely whatever you do in life you are allowed to grieve for the loss of a parent, yes life goes on but please Timothy Cadman, show some compassion and humanity to this man.



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Msg 18,Yes this is a Northern Cyprus aimed Bulletin Board but 99%+ of the posters are British and some like to hear British news..Why dont you stop being being a racist pain in the arse?



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I am absolutely appalled at some of the posters on this thread. David Cameron lost his son not so long ago and now he has lost his father. He flew to France to be at his mothers side during this tragic event, what is so wrong in that? My husband has always put work before anything else and being in private service it has been difficult to take any time off. Now that he is older and nearing retiring age, he realises what an error this has been. Family should always come first before making money, customers will understand this.





The butlers wife



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HI The butlers wife, i agree with you. Everyone has the right to grieve, customers exp[ect it. I know the show has to go on but family must always come first



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5. Freedom of Speech



We respect every member's right to post his/her opinions, on all issues except ones questioning the legality of TRNC.



If you do not accept this rule, do not join to the board.



Any violations of this rule will result in immediate banning of your account.



How does constantly questioning members' rights to post on ALL issues not fall foul of this rule?



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Well Said Lilli xx



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"He flew to France to be at his mothers side during this tragic event, what is so wrong in that?"

He flew by private jet to Nice and then was picked up by helicopter, supplied by Sarkozy, to be taken to the Army Hospital where is father was to say "goodbye".

Will Mr Sarkozy do this for every foreign visitor who is taken ill in France? I think not!

Why should Cameron get special treatment just because he is the Prime Minister? He is only human and one day he will be dead too. All humans should be treated equally. Isn't this why we have Equality Regulations to make it so?

Some are, apparently, more equal than others.



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Timothy we would expect nothing less for heads of states to show respect to each other. If it had been Mr Sarkozys father then I am sure they same courtesy would have been extended. They respect family and grief. Yes you and I would have to find our own waybut im sure we would have called favours in if we could. Today is my birthday and 5 years ago I celebrated a big one after being here a few months. My little sister decided to die on that day. Could I get a flight back for love or money NO. It was only the generousity of a customer who exchanged his flight to me, and Im ex cabin crew. x



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I bet your Restaurant is a bundle of fun.(message 25)



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Lilli,



Happy Birthday to you,

Happy Birthday to you,

Happy Birthday dear Lilli,

Happy Birthday to you.



21 today 21 today, now shes got the key to the door only been 21 once before!!



Have a good Birthday, and all my love to you........and the big fella. I raise my glass to your good health!



I KNOW its off thread..........sue me!



wyn



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About sums it up when work takes over from being with your family. Owning a two bit cafe seems more important than grieving for a love one. When not at the till then on 44 all the time. tch tch tch.....





appy burfday Lilli

XXXX



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Mr Cadman



Your way of dealing with the death of a loved one is probably slightly different to that of many others. Cameron's ability to use a private jet and a helicopter provided by Sarkozy was precisely because he is the Prime Minister. In your posts you complain that he spends too much time away from his 'post' and then complain when he uses the most expeditious means to deal with a family tragedy and then return to his 'post'. I suppose he could have gone by Eurostar or driven but then you would have probably complained at the cost of all the additional security that would be required for him to travel in this way.



Cut the guy some slack, just because you can seemingly go to the funeral of a parent and be over and done with it in a couple of hours doesn't mean that others can or need to do likewise - Cameron has a deputy, don't you have someone at your restaurant who can stand in for you for a day ??



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We should not grieve for the death of a loved but should celebrate what they brought into this world. To grieve means that you punish yourself, always looking to what you could have done better. Live your life to the best of your abilities everyday then you'll never have to contemplate your own misgivings.



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msg. You run a Restaurant and in a previouos posting you say you get verbally attacked in your work, any wonder with your attitude to life.



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Timothy



Noble words indeed, and I agree that a life should be celebrated. However different people react in different ways.



When my younger brother died in a motorcycle accident the family was understandably devastated. Because I lived at the other end of the country, I took 2 weeks off work (with my employers blessing) to support his widow, 3 children and my mother and to make all the necessary arrangements. I would not have been able to live with myself if I couldn't have been with them during their time of need.



Can I ask, if I had been an employee of yours, would you have given me just a few days off to sort things out and provide much needed support to my family or would you have expected me to just take a couple of hours off to attend the funeral before returning to the restaurant and cracking on with peeling the potatoes ? If the latter, what would have been your response if I had insisted on a few days off ?



Regards



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Timothy,

I am often accused of being insensitive & a hard bastard.



You are in a different league .... glad to here you value your customers, but wakey wakey .... if eating out is more important than supporting family & friends during sad times you live in a very worrying world.



Dan



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If David Cameron took the same attitude as Timothy Cadman,( as in get on with it despite losing a parent, then I would be seriously worried for the vulnerable people in society being governed by someone with such a hard heart.



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Life is simple, you are either alive or dead. If you are alive then you should all enjoy your lives to the fullest. If you are dead then you will (hopefully) not be reading this so it it does not matter. But the dead are simply that 'Dead'. Grieving for the departed only 'satisfies' those that are grieving. The departed do not care one iota about who is crying and who is not. TimothyCadman is correct and there should be a celebration of the departed's life not mourning.

And before anyone ask's I have had more than my fair share of deaths in my immediate family.



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AJ



I agree that a life should be celebrated not mourned but grief/sadness call it what you will, is not something that can just be bottled up and forgotten about. It manifests itself in a number of guises and whilst traditionally recognised as an emotional response, it can also have physical, behavioral, social, and philosophical dimensions. Peoples response to loss will differ for a number of reasons, for some who have watched a loved one die a long and painful death it may be seen as a blessing, for those who have a person taken away suddenly they may feel sorrow for a life that may not have been fulfilled, or sadness that a parent will never see their children grow up.



I agree, celebrate don't mourn but it is worth remembering that mourning is a collective act whereas grieving is intensely personal.



Hmmm...methinks this is a bit of a heavy subject for what is such a beautiful day.



Paul



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Grieving is a natrual process. It takes time. Most experts suggest 18 months to 2 years,



To disregard it is foolhardy, and it can return to cause you deep issues in later life.



To tell people that it is of little to no consequence is both foolish and callous.



David Cameron has lost his beloved father within months of loosing a loving son. He is now loosing sleep with his utterly delightful new daughter. He needs time to get his life back and mourn his losses. I am sure that most right minded people will agree.



I hope that Timothy's views are in a minority. The love shown by the Cameron family to each other, reinforces my faith in the family unit. I hope Timothy can generate such feelings within his family unit. He seems to have some issues to resolve.



Just my views, thats all,



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He probably would have walked to france if they let him, would you have been happier then TC !



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This offering condolences on C44 to someone who you don't know nor possibly will ever meet - and who doesn't give a tosh about us (you!, Brits) in Northern Cyprus is a bit pathetic. Just my views, that's all (borrowed from Wynyardman).

P.S. Isn't there something that may interest you in Northern Cyprus?



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I forgot to write this: I'm with the realists TimothyCadman and AlsancakJack. Sugarsweet posts about Mr Cameron's loss are good for next week's women and ladies magazines.



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You would know of course...



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Fiendishpaul,

We don't pay several thousand pound to an undertaker so that we make arrangements. For both my parents funerals I gave them the instructions of:-

1) Cheapest coffin

2) Name of the crematorium

3) 1 Hurse and 1 following car

4) Contact me when you have dates and times organised.

5) No church. No hymns. No vicar. No family flowers.

That's their job. That's what we pay them for.

As for their affairs we instructed a solicitor. They did the work to tidy up their estates.



As for my employees. Well, as their is no statute in law requiring me to give time off for bereavements then I give them nothing. The rota will reflect that the day of the funeral will be one of their normal days off, being that their contracts state that they work any 5 from 7 days. Any further time they wish to have off will be classed as holiday time and that they must have accured enough time for it to be paid (2.75 hours for every 37 hours worked). Unpaid leave may be substituted with written pe



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DC,



Its called Empathy. `clearly something lacking in your character.



wyn



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TC,



I would talk it over with a close friend, IF you have one!



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David Cameron reached his dying father within an hour or so of his passing - thanks to Pres.Sarkozy lending him the use of his helicopter to whisk him off to the hospital after landing in France. He was able to say his goodbyes and be there to support his elderly mother, along with his siblings. It was an intensely private and personal family occasion. He has demonstrated the meaning of family values and shown love and respect to his parents. At that time he wasn't the British Prime Minister but a dutiful and caring son. There is just too much neglect in our broken society these days, too little in the way of caring. But what goes around....comes around.



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RE msg 44, Wynyardman: Thank you for your unsolicited consult, Lord Shrink.You really should join a chat box with people who have nothing to say either. But bring your moral hobbyhorse to a vet first.



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swanee7.



Spot on! Pity that more do not have the same values.



wyn



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DC,



Your bitterness is noted.



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Who gives a S..... mine died 4 years ago and as far as I'm concerned the world is poo without him ! i wanted to try and be a "bit" like him in my life but NO Chance he will always be MY hero bless you Dad x



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Timothy



On first reading I assumed that your message 43 was tongue in cheek, but having read it again, maybe not.



Whatever, we all deal with things in our own different ways.



Regards



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Agree Barry, Msg 50.

Regards Toots



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I lost both my parents when I was quite young, I grieved for them then and I miss them still. When my time comes I can only hope that my own children will feel that my life was worth celebrating and though I wish them no prolonged grief I hope they can spare an hour or so to send me off properly at a dignified pace and with some respect.



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message 43 you realy sound like a cold and sad individual, anyway it takes all sorts and you realy live up to your name and put the CAD into cadman.



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We all deal with the loss of someone dear to us in different ways.



Can I just ask you Timothy Cadman, who comforted your Mum during the hours before your Fathers Funeral given that you weren't there? What about your children who had lost their Grandfather, who comforted them?



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When you see your statue of power, strength, and uttmost respect, disabled by disease and terrible body shattering invalidities you soon realise nature can be a terrible controlling factor. Most will say "our fathers" were/are the best yet I know mine actually was/is. long will his memory go on and on ! he was a great pianist entertaining the troops through the most horrific war zones ( the squadronaires) and even played at the same venue as the great Glenn Miller in a hanger or 2 ! god bless you Percy ! no one really knows what these people went through !!!! x PS thanks Toots !!



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Snakes I know how you feel.



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My father died 17 years ago and i still miss him every day he will always be in my heart.



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how re assuring I'm not alone thanks !!! dont miss him telling me i hit a "bum note" though ha ha !



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Barry and that's when you were playing the One Note Samba.....



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Snakes - message 56.



A lovely tribute to your Dad. Mine died many years ago and, to me (maybe not to everyone else) he was the nicest bloke God ever put breath into. I never heard him say a bad word about anyone. He was conscripted during the war - 1939 - came home about 1946. He never spoke of his experiences - he was of the 'old school'. I still miss him and (I must be getting soft in my old age - I'm 'filling up' ) I must admit it was a blessed relief when he died, but it doesn't stop me, very often, thinking about him. My Dad was a Gentleman (pity there aren't a few more of them around these days).



Warm regards



Jean



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I miss my Mum & my Dad, Mum taught me everything I know about cooking and baking, my Dad taught my Husband everything he knows about gardening. I have passed on to my 2 children my kitchen skills and my Son does all the cooking for his family. My grandchildren love to join me in my kitchen when I am baking (I may be old fashioned but nothing beats home baking). My Husband sums up my Dad by saying "he was a gentleman and I will always be graeteful for what he taught me". I pass the house where they lived and where I was born most days and I think of them everytime I had a wonderful childhood with them.



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Everyone on this Posting seems to have lost the plot. What was an original statement of fact seems to have turned into a giant slanging match between warring factions on this site. Personally, I find this extremely sad and wonder why it is necessary to continue this constant bantering when there must be so many other ways to occupy ones time on this island.



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Does that include yourself as in message 17, if you don't like the post then don't read it, simple really.



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MSG63 , As the saying goes if you dont like the subject you dont havta read it .



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"Can I just ask you Timothy Cadman, who comforted your Mum during the hours before your Fathers Funeral given that you weren't there? What about your children who had lost their Grandfather, who comforted them?"

My mother was with me, working and keeping the family business running so that I, and my children, could have a future. As for the kids, they were to young to really appreciate what was going on and were at school as normal. They were told that grandad had died and that he was in heaven looking down us and helping us in our daily lives to be the best that we can be. They took the news and went out to play with their friends. They've never made a meal out of death. Just accepted that it is what it is and it will come to all of us one day.

When my mother died the children were a little older, but again, went to school as normal. They were told that their Nan had died and she too would now be watching and helping us to be the best that we can be.



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They still have their Mother's parents and see a lot of them. But they are in poor health and confined to a residential home. I have no doubt that when that set of grandparents die then they shall take it in their stried and move on with their lives to the be the best they can be.



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You Know most families talk about death now. I remember when my son was 3 his grandma passed. I wascabin crew at the time. We spoke to him and tried to explain where she would go. At the funeral he asked mummy what time will the plane come to take her to heaven, and will you be on it. God I have filled up telling you xxxxxxxxxxxxx



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Bet he regrets not increasing inheritance tax threshold now!



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some of the comments on here are callous in the extreme



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blimey cadman your heart must have been removed at birth, I am glad I am not related or know you !! I have family members grieving for someone right now! - you are nothing but a hard hearted person and I guess none the better for it. I would pity you but obvioulsy you are so callous you are not worthy of it , what goes around comes around cadman!



As usual a thread brought down by a couple of self centred individuals - agreed callous in the extreme



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Message 72 of 76 in Discussion

sienna,

There's no heart in business, but there is an art to business. Those who put heart into a business fail for emotion will make you do things that don't make you money. It is the head that rules. It is calm and collected and pays no heed to emotion thus making a calculated decision and your business goes forward.

I had a butcher that I dealt with for 10 years. Everything about his meat was right. We even went on holidays and had drinks together. The day he became 20% more than the market average for the price of his meat he was dropped. Had I let the situation continue with his prices then I would have surely gone bankrupt. Instead he did as one by one his customers dried up.

I do have a heart. I love my wife and kids, but emotion has its place and I believe that it's not in business. Cameron's business is this country and getting it back on its feet. A job he's not doing at the moment and hasn't done since entering office. If he can't do the job then he shouldn't be doing it.



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I would hardly compare the emotional impact of losing a parent with dispensing of the services of a butcher who put his prices up but, what do I know.



We all make our own choices, for our own reasons and live with them.



Paul



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Message 73: "I would hardly compare the emotional impact of losing a parent with dispensing of the services of a butcher who put his prices up but, what do I know."



I didn't think Timothy Cadman was either, fiendishpaul. I thought he was simply making a point about emotion in business...



But I believe you're correct about us all making our own choices for our own reasons, as long as we can also accept responsibility for the consequences.



But just how on earth someone like sienna in message 71 can make such judgements about another person like that is beyond me. I think comments like hers would bring a thread down more rapidly than comments like those of Timothy Cadman.



Just my thoughts, that's all...



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RE msg 74, Rottolover: (...) just how on earth someone like sienna in message 71 can make such judgements about another person (...)

=> Don't bother with "someone like sienna" - she's only maliciously commenting. Her one and only and last original idea was to become a member of this board. Proof: check her posts via her profile. Alas, everyone has the right to make a mistake.



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Rottolover



You are correct.



I completely misinterpreted Timothy's comments for which I duly apologise.



Paul



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