tory cuts in uk hitting hard?

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:22

40,000 front line police officers may loose their jobs according to bbc news , they are calling it xmas for criminals ?

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:25

Rowlo. The relevance to the TRNC is? Or don't you have a clue about this place and have to refer back to the motherland?

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:29

Whats your other name Glynn, Dutch Crusader or something??????

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:29

rowlo. dont think its a bad thing to reduce the police officers possibly there are 40,000 bent ones.

millzer


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Posts: 978

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:33

There are 'bent' people in all walks of life but to suggest 40,000 coppers are bent...... come on measey!!!!

YFred


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Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:36

Will it really make any difference, they never catch anybody anyway. Bloody useless. Look at how Nadir was able to run? I rest my case.

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:38

millzer. point taken was a bit harsh.

Quarmby


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Posts: 975

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:42

Cut backs all round, thousands to loose their jobs but we are supposed to pay for that character to come to the UK from the Vatican, if the catholics want him in the UK let them pay for him.

essexdan


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 20:48

Get those on long term sick back to work and we will have more police on the streets than we do now even after the cuts !!!!



Public sector had it coming, milked the system for years .... now they can feel the cuts



Police & NHS have shocking sick leave stats .... stress!!!!!!! .... bullshit



Their blind greed over the years has been their undoing and they will lose colleagues ....



Rant Over ...

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 21:01

and we will also be paying for the 40,000 police pensions and redundancies . glynn msg 2 , some people like to know whats happening in the uk also ? remember you dont have to contribute to the thread if it does not interest you .

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 21:09

rowlo Mgs 2. I second that.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 21:14

1 million pound to police the pope for 4 days.



now thats criminal!

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 21:21

zerochlor. Bloody Hell whats the point of that Cancel it.

davedee



Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 22:03

Should it not be coalition cuts hitting hard.

girne 29


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Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 02:22

Measey

message 4



Its only 39,999 now ,The moron that assaulted that woman was jailed for 6 months yesterday.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 02:46

What I find very interesting is the fact that "40,000 coppers are, apparently, bent".



Where on earth do these figures come from? And, surely, if there are that many who must, I assume, be known, why don't they sack, say, at least 50% of them.



Mind you, these figures come from a man who has, apparently, seen a witch flying about over Suffolk???

The same person who also apologises to people that have insulted him?



I rest my case (again).

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 11:21

Which police force is to be used to head the investigation into determining which ones are "bent" and should be sacked ? Give them a clue, look for the ones which look like bananas ie "yellow, bent, and come in bunches" !

measey


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Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 11:46

Jeannie. Once again thanks for those kind words its very kind of you.

rigsby


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Posts: 912

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 12:04

Off topic a little.When the last pope came to the u/k i helped to cover some fields near the NEC in Birmingham for the thousands of cars to park.Fleets of buses were laid on to transport people to Coventry.Guess how many cars parked on the fields? NONE. The bus drivers also had a very lazy day.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 13:46

I agree about getting the long term sick back to work,but first of all you have to have the jobs for them.Also there are at least 2 million other people looking for jobs apart from the new wave of cuts take effect.Its all very well having these cuts but all you do is make the vicious circle more vicious.If you make thousands redundant ,that is more people claiming benefits,more people loosing their homes, so even bigger problems for the benefit system.Employers shy away from people who have been off work a long time,some of them due to no fault of theirs,And the places where they used to retrain people are being axed.Like I said one big vicious circle.The one thing I would like to see is the Winter fuel allowance MEANS TESTED,and restrict the payments to people who actually reside in this country.I thought this lot were all for LAW AND ORDER.Reduce the police and see what happens to your crime rate. I bet their are a few million out their now who regret Browns removal......

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 14:26

Another benefit that should be looked into is the mobility allowance, on holiday in Turkey in June a couple there saying they had a new car waiting for them when they got back, a new one every three years, I asked how come? the answer was, the wife has a mobility car, she applied when she was in hospital having her first hip operation and was given the allowance so we gave that up to have a car, after she had her second op no one bothered so we still claim it. This Woman walked miles around Cesme during the day and evening, no way was she disabled. Plenty more like them too, hobble into the GP on a stick they have it made.

briggus


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 161

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 14:27

Well rounded post with sense spoken there coachie.



For many everything is black or white - did deeper there are alwaya lot of grey areas to unravel. The govt in stead of there tunnel vision politics will and are now having to try and look at the bigger picture on policy matters as they seem to lack a rounded strategy. As you say any changes can have negative outcomes - higher unemployment, less tax revenue and how can you put people into jobs that are not or will not be there!!

scruffdog


Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 742

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 14:42

If everyone did a good days work for their pay, you would generate more work, because companies would have more money to invest in expansion. Too much management in NHS and far too many local government staff. You want to own your own business, be at the sharp end, then you would know what hard work is about. We had a transport business, if a driver did not turn in at 7am in morning, you had to get in a van and do it yourself, no job description, no if buts or maybes, just get on with the job, loke it used to be before all these benefits and spongers. Back in the late 60,s you could almost choose your job.

susanstrud



Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 15:51

Mess.20.Why should the winter fuel be restricted to only those in the U.K and be means tested.!If you have paid your contributions and receive retirement benefit,you still have to keep warm where-ever you live.I still pay U.K. tax and don't receive any of the concessions-ie free health care,free precriptions,bus pass .I still prefer to pay and live here.Isn't it everyones right to live where they choose and not be penalized!

If the TRNC was recognised,we would be part of the E.U.and there would be reciprical agreements but saying that we'd probably be worse off cos we'd have the dreaded euro!We can't win!!

regards Sue.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 17:29

Er, the Euro is back to 83p / 1 GBP...

girne 29


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Message Posted:
11/09/2010 18:36

Scruffdog.



'You want to own your own business, be at the sharp end, then you would know what hard work is about.'



The sharp end !!!

I worked in inhospitable climates ,physically hard and long hours.

Who are you to tell us and others that we dont know what hard work is,because we havent driven a truck at 7am, I have come offshift before you even got out of bed and have worked round the clock when when needed. Ever work down a mine, a foundry smelter ,fishing boat,oil rig,in Iraq.

How do you know what people did before they were laid off, to presume they dont know what hard work is.

I know a guy who has a retail business ,admittedly from Dad ,who thinks he is hard done by if he does more than 15 hours a week. All business owners lazy?



Benifit cheats £4bn.

Tax evasion/avoidance cheats £35 bn.

Go for the easy target.eh

Before you say I am soft. I think ALL cheats should be jailed , not just the ones that cost taxpayer £4bn but also the £35bn ones.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 23:42

susanstrud...the winter fuel allowance idea was brought in for the benefit of the really hard up old people who could not pay their gas or electricity during the winter months here in England where the temperature is a lot lower than in Cyprus.The reason that you do not recieve any of the items you mention is because you do not have permanent residence here in the UK.You paid your dues all your life and you duly got back what you were entitled to ...your pension,which I get as well.The difference is I support the UK economy with not only Income Tax on MY pension as you do also,but I pay VAT to the UK government where as you pay to the TRNC government.

I do not know what sort of transport company you had,but I was in transport for 38 yrs till I retired and for you to say back in the 60,s you could choose your own job,how would you know ,you were only 10 at the time.Starting work at 7AM,what were doing working part time.I had done 4hrs work by then,and still had another 10 to do....

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
11/09/2010 23:51

MSG 20



Coachie, Dont you dare suggest means testing The Winter Fuel Allowance. Its bloody cold up here in Winter.



Looking at your photograph they should put up the tax on alcohol. Bloody Champagne socialists.



wyn

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 13:24

Wynn..In all honesty, tell me would it affect your financial situation,I dont think so.It would not affect me either,hence the means testing to qualify for it.Its the same with the bus pass.I have one and very rarely use it,but there are others who have to rely on it,especially if they do not have any other means of transport. You seem to forget you old Tory,that I was raised up where you live so I know all about "the cold",put an extra jumper on like we used to do in the old days.....That is blackcurrent juice in the glass so if they start taxing that I will be in a bad way...Nice to hear from you.Do you think Batman and Robin will see their full term out???? byr for now...

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 13:50

Hi Coachie,



Thanks for your tips on how to keep warm, though I hardly think it will be appreciated by MOST members, at the present time.



Batman and Robin are having a very taxing time, leave them alone!.



I don't have a bus pass (don't want to be dissapointed when its taken way)



Good to see Tony new book is doing well £25 a pop. Thats more than 1/4th of the weekly state pension.



Has anybody here seen Gordon (make a good song that) Laying low as the truth comes out!



Must go, expecting an insulting E mail from DC. Keep the red flag flying (TRNC flag I mean)



wyn

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 14:26

Keep the red flag flying (TRNC flag I mean)

Wyn .. Think the TRNC flag is white .. Turkish flag is red

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 14:59

Coachie .. You keep harping on about the winter fuel allowance ..

We get it because we are ENTITLED to it .. When we are not entitled to get it .. We won't ..

Appears to me that if you took the plunge to live here, you would make sure you kept a UK address to get all the "freebies" on offer ..

We didn't & accept that we can't have NHS treatment .. Get better treatment here ..

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 16:38

harita..I know you get it because you are entitled it. My point is it should be means tested.I bet 80% of the people who receive it do not really need it. I am to old to start moving to Cyprus or any where else for that matter,quite happy where I am thank you. Nice to come out for a couple of weeks holiday but thats about as far as I would go. Glad to see you are an uprite solid citizen who is not trying to defraud the UK economy by NOT keeping a ficticious address back here so you can grab all the "freebies" that are on offer. Mind you I do not think my bus pass is acceptable in Cyprus and I do not qualify for a free tv licence yet.You enjoy your retirement in sunny Cyprus but keep an eye on the press for all of the changes that are coming our way,becase some of them might affect you....



Wynn..Have you had your letter from the revenue people about your tax refund yet????

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 17:50

Coachie.



New Labour......Jam Tomorrow. Coachie the story of my life..

Dont try and means test my heating allowance. I will turn black.



Socialist GIT.



wyn

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 23:15

Maybe we will be told we don't need to pay UK tax anymore .. LOL

alanka


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Posts: 154

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 01:31

Some jobs are going to be cut - good - they are jobs that actually don't have any point - they don't serve any purpose and they don't produce anything either.



So, some services will be cut - erm, some of those services are the hospitals and (wait for it) police stations not getting the gardens tended to - anything wrong with asking those on the dole (can't do it/don't want to/ops disabled due to smoking too much pot etc) being made to do these jobs while they are collecting benefits??



Benefits were meant for those that were having a hard time - it was never meant to be a career option - not that his younger genreation were informed of that...



I hate the benefit that gives alcoholics a free car (free tyres forever) because they are not mobile, and their partners use the cars to drive them to the pub and back - I know 3 families that have this benefit - where is the sense in that?? What about the pensioners who fought in the war - they deserve better do they not?

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 01:50

to get back to the heading of the thread. Everyone knew before the election that there would be very harsh cuts in public spending.



You lefties lost the democratically held election so stop whinging. Instead of criticising the tories look at the faults in your own party that caused the huge deficit in the first place.

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 01:51

http://europenews.dk/en/node/13710

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 13:06

lapta mike..we may have lost the election,but the tories did not win it either..Well as has been said before,it was tory run banks with their greed policy and huge bonuses for negligent work that caused the problems in the first place. It is not the policy of Labour government to see people suffer through no fault of theirs.I agree there are scroungers on the benefit system and should be sorted,but they are not all scroungers who are on benefits,and not all are labour supporters either.You will never eliminate totally that sort of culture,does not matter how you try.For example,within 2hrs,of the news being released about tax rebates,people were getting fake emails claiming to be from the inland revenue.There will always be people who want to make money without having to work for it. If the labour government had not pump millions into the banks we would be in a helluva lot bigger mess now.if the government were to sell there shares in the banks now it would clear the debt.....

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 13:11

alanka a free car for alcholics, never heard of that one, i going back if thats the case, only joking. I do think the whole system needs a good shake up/I heard from a friend last night who works for the DWP and their jobs are also been axed.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 13:22

Lilli..on thee news this morning,with these cuts that are coming they expect another 500,000 scroungers to be drawing benefits.If you are going to make thousands redundant that means millions more be paid out in benefits so it seems to me you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.The private sector are suffering because of this action.Furniture makers,car,kitchen,brickworks,you name it are loosing business because nobody will spend any money in case they end up on the dole.How any mp can say that a s limmer public sector will improve the private sector is rather pie in the sky to me....

bachelibelly


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 275

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 15:15

Forgive me for pointing out the obvious but how can a country provide for the influx of 1,000s and 1,000s of annual legal immigrants attaining jobs or benefits (not counting the illegal ones) when there wasnt sufficient job vacancies to provide work for the home based applicants in the first place .Market forces have dictated a gradual reduction of the need for manual labour with technology and free trade, offset against this you have a steady increase in availlable labour resourses....end result over supply to a diminishing demand ...conclusion ...financial collapse of the system and cap in hand to the IMF...again...looking to the future... total implosion .....

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 15:36

Coachie. Don't think you should be calling people who have lost a job a scrounger, it's the ones who don't & won't work who are scroungers. And who's money did the labour government pump into the banks. It's the disability allowance that should be looked into for one ok for genuine disabled but I know a few pretend disabled around me in better health than me getting the allowance or a car.

Stonehousepub


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 755

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 21:54

msg 6



Asil Nadir fled the UK because he was allowed to and also had plenty of help from the goverment, it was not due to the incompetance of the police.



In my opinion the UK has one of the best police forces in the world

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 22:19

Just had to make a comment !



LaptaMike msg 37......not a truer word written.



I now hear at the TUC gathering of the red fraternity that the bone head Bob Crow intends to bring the country to a standstill unless he gets his own way,.... what an absolute clown this man is and he is paid £120k as well.



Coachie I can remember myself, Wyn, Dizzycows and many more warning the likes of you that this was on its way but typical labour voters bury your heads and it may go away,...well guess what my friend its here for the forseeable future.

I read you have had new knees recently.....good job mate cos your going to be on them for a good few years to come so hope they did a good job on you.



You all need to take a look at this and try to understand the sh*t this last govenment left us in.....not good reading

http://www.debtbombshell.com/

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 22:44

Turtle Message 45.



Totally agree.



Coachie,



I cannot believe this whole thread. We have had no cuts yet, they are still JUST talking about it.



No one has mentioned the PFI debt. They owe so much money on these spanking new state of the art hospitals that they cannot afford the repayments and the staffing and running costs. Half the wards are closed.



When this one comes home to roost God only knows what we will do.



What with "weapons of mass destruction. An unelected Prime Minister who impoverished the country

(not even his own colleagues wanted him) Inherited wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. they have yet again

driven Great Britain.to the brink.



NEW LABOUR my ----------.All we have left is Tony Blairs life story.£25 a time THAT Mr Blair is in excess

of 25% of the weekly state pension.



You guys and your union mates keep the red flag flying still.



While those folk left, can pay the bill.



Cheers !



wynyardman

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 13:22

Wynn..so we owe millions on these new hospitals ,so what.Its the people who are going to need them or do peoples health not bother you.Most of the money that is owed is probably owed to Tory run businesses who scammed the NHS out it by over charging in the first place.As for the un-elected prime minister,what about your unelected government,and as for the 2 wars you inherited,your lot voted in favour of both and I do not see t hem rushing to pull out of either.Well if they are ONLY talking about it then there are a whole lot of important tories stating this.



Turtle ..Demonstrations are different to strikes.Its everybodies right to take part in demonstrations whether organised by the unions or not.



Woodspeckie..I used that term because some people on here seem to think that anybody who gets benefit is a scrounger,which as you say is not the case,agreed. I doubt if any gov.will ever get rid of the scroungers,it costs to much to investigate so they leave them alone....

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 13:47

coachie,



Watch my blue lips (and no its not TORY blue)





The new " state of the art " hospitals arn't being used (in some circumstances) because there is not enough

in the kitty to staff, and operate them. A monument to Gordon and Tony they may be, but they aint treating the working classes.



I note that you have just had your knees done, but our new hospital at Wynyard was one of the first projects

that was cancelled by Batman and Robin. When we got there, the cupboard was bare!.



And now we have to watch the spectacle of Bill( I never had sex with that woman) Clinton giving his old mate

Tony (weapons of mass destruction) Blair a gong for his contribution towards killing 100,000 Iraqis.and

destabilising Afghanistan.



Coachie, Put your hands up (if you can stand to put that glass down). It was The Motley Bunch, New

Labour, your buddies, that you are seeking to defend.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 13:54

This country has been left with over £1Trillion pounds worth of debt, and its going to take 10 years of austerity to put right.



NOW WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? SPEND to stop us going into depression. You and your mates leave me breathless! (hence the blue lips).



I bet Turtle fell off his perch when he saw the audacity of your response.



All together now



The working class, can kiss my a---e. Ive got the foremans job at last. Tony and you seem to have done OK! Enjoy!



wynyardman

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 17:10

Well Wynn..if your lot were so good 12yrs ago how come my lot got in and lasted as long as they did.Dont remember any mass demos or uprisings to get them out,and you had three attempts and did not succeed and still you did not win outright the last time simply because a lot of people just do not trust them... there was nothing audacious about my response to Turtle,the trouble is Wyn you and your co horts seem to think the unions are the big bad ogres in this country,but without them a few million people would still be living in the Victorian era.If bosses in the past had been fair minded there probably would not be any unions,but thats history now.Maggies little escapade in the Falklands cost us more than Blairs episode,and if he had not gone along with Bush what state do you think we and the rest of europe would be in.The price of oil would have sky rocketed and hundreds of firms collapsing because they could not afford the energy bills,so the benefit bill is through the roof...

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:49

Coachie,



I think its time for your afternoon nap. Dream on, mon ami, but keep your socialist mits off my winter heating allowance.



Paradise lost! Tony and Gordon stole it, with their New Labour scam. WHO are going to pay the bills



One TRILLION POUNDS plus. Shameful.



wyn

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:51

Coachie, I note today that 3 out of every 4 pounds being cut today were going to be cut by your lot any way?



I suppose your way of thinking would be 3 pound is ok but 4 is too much...!





As for the unions and demonstrations ...what a joke the unions have never demonstrated anything only how to bankrupt the UK in 1 easy move

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:52

How much did it cost to bail out the banks?

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:58

never mind the police force,get rid of most of the bad apples then lets re address them and see how they fairing.



More important for me is the fire brigade,they do a far more important job i feel,and with out any corruption involved.

These guys are fighting for us,not just there self.



http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=22431

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:06

Coachie. Have to say that Unions have decided to fight David Camerons Goverment lets hope Cameron is as Strong as Maggie Thatcher.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:08

Zero,



Could this be a new era, when coppers have to fight crime, and arrest criminals. Bloody hell, motorists will think they have died, and gone to heaven.



What was the average overtime figure for our hard worked police.



My neighbour called the police because I wanted to trim his 35 foot Cypressus Leylandi, and they threatened to arrest me.



Lets get the country back to common sense.



wynyardman

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:18

Msg 53....I can assure you the banks will pay back 10 fold what it took to bail them out in tax over the next few years.



Zerochlor...My neighbour is a fireman and I think they work 4 days on and 4 off or something like that on his 4 days off (which should be rest days) he out moonlighting painting houses and mowing lawns ?

He tells me he prays that there is no fires when he goes back to work not because of anybody,s saftey but so he can get som kip as he is knackered and by the way he drives an XK Jag and his missus drives an Audi TT and she dosen't work !!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:29

turtle.



alot of firemen have to also take a second job,as they get paid for the amount of fires they fight,im sure this is correct,but of course they get a basic salary,not sure what that is,they get no over time i believe,so its pretty sad that they need to seek a second job to make ends meet!



XK jag is not so expensive,audi TT also not so expensive,both nice cars,but i try to see it from both sides of the fench,he may of copped for a few quid from other sources,i used to have 4 cars on my drive when i squatted in england,my neighbours hated it,dont know why,they only had to ask and they could of used them aswell,i could only drive 1 at a time.

When you say she does not work,she may work from home,ever thought she might be a webcam girl livejasmin.com who knows

you never know whats going on next door

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:29

Turtle,



Does the taxman know?



wyn

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 22:01

Zero...

There could be some truth in that she's an absolute darlin !







Wyn

Dont think so

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 22:20

some boffin on radio2,today has this idea , take the 10% richest people in the country , make them pay 20% of theyre total worth , national debt would cleared right away ?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 22:25

rowlo,



speaking as a poverty stricken pensioner, I would vote for that!



wynyardman

rowlo



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 22:31

ok wyn , thats cool , but if you were in the 10% would your vote be the same ?

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 22:57

Rowlo.



No But I am not!



wyn

rowlo



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:01

i knew that , but its hypothetical ,wyn ?

Coachie



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:10

Wyn...YOU a poverty stricken pensioner.then the Pope must be Protestant!!!! It has been stated on tv that if the gov.was to sell the public stake in the banks now it would virtually clear off th e public debt.



where has this 1trillion pounds come from Wynn? The last figure I saw was £164billion,bit of a difference!!!

Wynn..if his tree protrudes into your property you can trim the bit that does,and when you make a mess of it he cannot say a thing....

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:19

I have never agreed to tax people more of their income if they have a higher salary. By earning more in the first place they are paying more tax. I think it is unjust.



What if you get a pay rise that takes you into a higher tax rate, only just. You end up losing out. How is that fair?



My view. I respect other peoples points of views even if I don't agree with them. Each to their own.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:38

Coachie,



Did you have to bring religion into this? Listen......The Catholics might have the best miracles, but us



Methodists have the best hymns.



The 900 Billion (so far acknowledged) plus the undeclared off balance sheet, PFI debacle,



Where were you Coachie, when us Christians were warning you of the almighty mess, that you were getting us in to ?



Bragging what you were doing for the working classes. Now we cannot afford to staff and finance them.



Shame on you. Its no wonder that The Trade Unions do not know what to hold first. Their a---ses or their elbows. Why no threatened industrial (so called) action until next year. They have learnt that you cant get blood out of a stone!.



Have the good grace to hide Coachie like The Bold Gordon .New Labour are yesterdays men!



Make a few after dinner speeches or write your autobiography. SOD the working man



Wynyardman (true blue, and proud of it!)

Coachie



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Message Posted:
15/09/2010 12:22

wynn...Gordon at the this moment in time is doing the honorable thing by quote"keeping his head below the parapet" and not cat calling any of his former workmates. Its a pity a lot more mp,s could not do the same.....

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
15/09/2010 12:49

Coachie,



Hiding his face with shame, more to the point. MY TEAM ARE HAVING TO CUT,TO BALANCE THE BOOKS.



Military.

Arms Procurement.

Hospital Budgets.

Police

Firemen.........................to name but a few, No more CCTV cameras on their helmets to play with.



What a state to leave a Country. Teetering on the brink, thanks to Union threats! Civil disorder?



Remember Dennis (the eyebrows) Healey. Cap in hand to hid Lords and Masters The IMF.



and here we are again except for Batman and Robins good names in International circles



Thats Old Labour........and .... New Labour.....whats next....Future Labour....or...millibandbros.gov.org.



Yesterdays Men...Coachie... Yesterdays men!!!



Just my honest opinion,



wynyardman

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:39

Brown is "keeping his head below the parapet" ???? Pity he did not keep it below the surface of Loch Ness standing on the shoulders of Blair, Mendleson (Meddlesome ?), two Jags and the rest of their government who did more damage to the UK in 10 years than that incurred in two world wars.

Coachie



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Message Posted:
15/09/2010 21:54

Some people are really bitter.!!!!!

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
15/09/2010 22:00

Coachie,



Looks more like Chateauneuf De Pape !

honestie


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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 11:24

As ive said on many posts before was a police officer 30years proud to have done it hard work and was front line officer working at times such long hours I didnt have time to have a life.



Yep corrupt ones as there is in all departments as I think we all know and a closed shop at times believe me it was to me many times it was easier dealing with the criminals.



but the home office are responsible for the the performance and tax cutting of the police forces and believe me if you knew the wastage and the inept management you would really wonder how we did police ! Of course I will always defend the job the police do and would love to know what other alternatives there is as whatever you come up with there will be corruption and at times it takes a criminal to catch and think like one.



There could be more effective ways of cutting expenditure in the police force and as zerochlor says my admiration is also for the firebrigade but its a job that doesnt lend itself to corruption

Coachie



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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 18:41

Wynn..Labour have drawn level in the opinion pols with the Tories as the popularity for the coalition wains..end quote on the news today..so they aint got it made yet old boy.Would not be surprised to see a lot of back tracking and more unbroken promises....

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 20:55

Coachie,



Its really sad that you do not appreciate the depth of the UKs debt problem, and who caused it..



I will give you a clue. They are hiding!



Cheers,



Wynyardman

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 21:51

Coachie. Is that a poll that includes canvasing the deadbeats in receipt of benefits which they have never paid a penny towards and fear this government may deny it to them in future ?

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 21:58

big difference between an opinion poll and a general election. Coachie, you're clutching at straws my friend.