Freemasons: The silent destroyers

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:12

http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm



it does make for great reading

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:16

you make your mind up!



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/57463.stm

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:17

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/true_blue.html

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:19

you want to keep talking about freemasonary not being corrupt scootex!



http://www.justresponse.net/DougalWatt3Sep02.html

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:21

Zero,



I hope you dont get made an offer, you cant refuse!



wyn

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:25

Hey Wyn.



My cage has been rattled. read this !



http://masonfitup.blogspot.com/

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:27

amazing .haa,and he says no corruption, pull the other 1 matey !



http://eutruth.org.uk/barryhunt.html

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:30

Caution Zero,



You dont want to end up face down. in that beautiful crystal clear pool.



wyn

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:30

scootex,this will give you some thing to read while your not selling your scooters and have some free time. i think you have been brainwashed



http://www.scribd.com/doc/3594311/How-to-stop-the-masons-NWO-by-the-Anti-Corruption-Party-USA-2008

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:32

What a load of tosh -can't believe people actually believe this sort of rubbish !!!

helper


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:32

New World Order, nothing more to say

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:34

They do because they are brainwashed

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:35

Quote from the late Lord Denning: "MASONS NOT ONLY KILL. THEY ALSO KILL MASONS"

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:36

http://www.cephas-library.com/freemasonry_injustice.html

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:37

give us a shout scootex when you find time to defend all i have posted, as im sure you will have some wonderful fairy tales to go against all i have posted

BeeKeeper


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:38

The best expose on the Masons was done in an episode of the Simpons.



They wouldn't let Homer join until the very end of the episode - much to his chagrin.



But eventually they relented. And even Homer could see it was a load of poppycock, once he was inside.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:40

secret society



ive S-it umm

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:42

I personally know quite a few masons and all of them are gentle, funny, kind and generous.They spend most of their time fundraising for charities, organising quiz nights in sea cadet huts, and down the lodge where the most exciting activity is managing to 'remember your words' without prompting, and looking forward to the steak and kidney pudding dinner !!!

To read some of the stuff that people write makes me laugh as its so ludicrous and simplistic to say that 'masons' are responsible for such corrupt practices. They are just in an old boys club !!! Just because they have 'secrtets' doesn't mean they have anything to hide.

Paranoia !!!

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:43

Message 10 Essexgirl,



I accept everything Zero has posted, but there again I used to believe what they said about Essex girls!



wyn

eddietheell


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:44

Heres the info on how to join



http://www.ugle.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/download.php?f=UGLE-Booklet_R1_148x210_LR_150.pdf



Remember its not always the handshake

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:45

You should never judge a book by its cover Wyn !

How many Essex girls do you know, and how many Masons do you know personally?

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:47

essexgirl.



i know a few also,and i do know some funky stories,but not all the same of course.



do you happen to be a member of the lodge in essex?

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:49

ooopps, Lord Denning was a liar



yeah yeah yeah

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:54

No, I'm not a member although I know that there are many Ladies Lodges around. Actually it doesn't interest me at all -seems rather boring to have to learn all those speeches -and without the glory of an audience appreciation when you get it right too !!!

But many friends seem to enjoy it -the social aspect and to be doing something for a good cause.

Honestly, if there was anything sinister in it , I don't see how I wouldn't have noticed by now !!!

Susie

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:55

I knew a man in london,he did so much for charity you could see no wrong in him,it was a smoke screen,as you was so caught up in all his doing good with his charity and benifits that no 1 saw his real work and real businesses.

i wont go into what his real businesses where.



Same goes for all ive posted above.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:59

susie.



you make me smile.



But i do not belive 1 word you have written.



Enjoy your day

" Lady"



i hope you have no forget me not earings!

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:00

All I can say is that of the Masons I know which is many, can't see how any of them would be capable of such deception and obscenity-I think we are all capable of judging the character of people by the time we get into our forties and until you actually meet a Mason and are in a position to make a personal judgement, maybe it would be wise to refrain from commenting or stirring up anti-masonic sentiment unnecessarily !

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:02

You don't have to believe me -but I ope not everyone is as blinkered as you.

I have no personal involvement, just thought I'd try to balance your argument based on my own very real, honest and personal experience.

Have a nice day yourself.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:04

Essexgirl.



I am bound by the rules of OMERTA on both questions.



wyn

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:05

Care to elaborate?

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:08

As like in a court of law, scootex denied that corruption was rife within freemasonary.



so as he denied it,i thought it was pertinent of me to show otherwise,that is why this post was started.



Why would it be wise susie.?



i live in a free world of free speech,i fear nothing.



As i said,i also know several so called masons who you say in your opinion all are do gooders,well our opinions differ,so i shall carry on.

like it or not,such is life!

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:09

You could always ask the family of Calvi Banco Ambrosia and P11 member.



He hung around with the wrong people!



wyn

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:13

Ok, whatever rocks your boat. You go ahaead and theorise till the cows come home. We are all entitled to our opinions.

By the way, its a pretty grey day here in Essex -roll on my next trip to Cyprus ! Ye ha !!!



PS -are you still in the pool, Zerochlor?

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:28

How the freemasons control our courts and goverment.



http://eutruth.org.uk/freemasoncontrol.html



looby lou



no im in the office



But i am reading a whole pool of deceit about freemasonary

essexgirl


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:30

Have you not got anything more useful to do............ ?!!!!

I'd definately get back in that swimming pool if I were you, LOL !

Washerman


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:32

Zerochlor, it goes without saying that there are good and bad in all walks of life, but I know what you mean.



Many posters on here are Freemasons and some of them know no bounds when it comes to ganging up and spreading lies and rumours.



A member of this forum was very quick to copy a post that she saw one day, it only appeared for a few minutes before being deleted by an Admin'. I can't remember whether it was posted on here or, on another North Cyprus forum, but it concerned me and was part of a circular that had been sent by email to Freemasons in Northern Cyprus.



The sender asked them to post an excerpt from the email, but foolishly, someone posted the whole email. When they realised the mistake, they asked for the post to be removed and it was.



She sent it to me. I have a copy somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it out.



Your right, there is something sinister in this, but they also do a lot of good work for charity so, I suppose one cancels the other one out.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:40

washerman.



im not saying they dont do charity work or good in the community, so do many other people or foundations.



scootex as good as challenged me in saying there is no corruption in freemasonry,or to do with freemasonary.



As like in a court of law,i ask you, your a lier,you say no.so then that gives me the right to bring up your past convictions in that court,because you denied you was a lier.

well in this case scootex verbally batterd me into trying to believe his version of freemasonary,when i know he and many like him are brainwashed,as i know diffrent.



That is the only reason this post got started,as a point to scootex,but as ive started,i shall finish!!

i personally do not care how many masons are on the island,to me its of no interest who or what they are or even who they think they may be!



Right is right



Thats what i believe in

spider


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:43

Hi I have met quite a lot of them and all were a bad lot..They say to each other ' Your not a mason till your a man and your not a man till your a mason' seems that they are a confused lot, they may do charity work also but I also know that they put themselves FIRST..and the Yorkshire one I met here was nothing but a crafty dirty mined old sod and a right crook.Oh yes and I have seen inside the bag and book of tricks... )





Spider,X

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:47

spider,



your not a man until you get on the cobbles



Thats what i say .



And your 100% correct about looking after number 1

Washerman


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:52

Zerochlor, there is corruption in all walks of life, but your right, Scootex' post was ill-conceived. He's probably had his wings clipped already.



I wonder if any others will contribute to this thread?

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:56

scootex







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Message Posted:

14/09/2010 13:05

Reply Message 11 of 17 in Discussion



Zerochlor you are obviously as prejustice as the GC are towards the TC. What are you talking about .I am a free mason and proud of it .I have never had, nor seeked an advantage for being in that fine organisation , on the contary I have, as many freemasons will tell put their hands very deep in their pockets to support good causes and charity . I have known many policemen in lodges and none of them would ever attempt to to get you off anything unlawful. What I do know is that the police ,the solicitors , and any one in public office is required to disclose the membership to their employers which in itself is a traversty . Just because Grand lodge in london will not defend its self from stupid alegations from bigoted people like you ,I will, as I am proud to stand up and be counted .As for this police officer who committed this assault I can guarrantee you that

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:57

scootex







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Message Posted:

14/09/2010 13:23

Reply Message 12 of 17 in Discussion



cont/ serious crime like assault . So what you are saying zerochlor is that anyone in the pool chemical business who commits a crime, then we should shun all people associated with the same business as these must obviously be all bad people .I suggest you get your facts right before shooting off your mouth as a lot of your customers are probably freemasons who would take offence at your remarks . This one freemason who was about to buy your product for 2 pools but as you think we are all rogues you probably would not want to deal with me



I should point out that the above are my own personel veiws of the posting by Zerochlor who has obviously been watching to many BBC series like Morse and Frost.



They are not necarsarily the veiws of the Grand lodge of England or Provincial Grand Lodge of Monmouthshire



Philip Chappell



P.Gr.supt.Wks



member of

spider


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:59

Perhaps I should add that its just my experience of the ones that I have met so far met along my path in life ) But from what I have read on here today I an not in the least surprised, also they go South for their Lodge.







Spider,X

Washerman


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:02

"Zerochlor you are obviously as prejustice [sic] as the GC are towards the TC."



Very Defensively aggressive!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:03

washerman.

you know i know all about corruption,and it being in all walks of life.



But if people wish to spout of there huge mouths defending something,then make sure the facts are correct,and do not try to brainwash others into there corrupt beliefes about what is something they believe.



maybe freemasons have a diffrent word for corruption!

Groucho



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:07

Where does the 'brainwashing' come in? Last time I checked expressing an opinion was not likened to brainwashing....

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:08

NOW THIS YOU MUST READ. 1 LITTLE HAPPY FAMILY WERNT THEY ALL!



WAIT FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD. but at least these went to jail,thank god.



http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/lawlor_evilsexbeast.html

Washerman


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:08

Zerochlor - I think that it will be left to you and me to keep this going. I doubt that anyone else is going to join in.



At the moment, I am writing a story that involves a few local Freemasons, I doubt that it will win me many friends, but then, like you say Zerochlor - Right is right!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:09

washerman



please post or send in email to me regarding what you said before about the letter that was posted

Washerman


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:12

I will, but I have to find it first and I think it is on one of my old laptops, but I will find it and send it to you. You will find it very interesting

mahdel


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:43

i'm not a freemason nor do I know any, that I know of, but this is standard conspiracy theory BS. You could replace "freemasons" with "illuminati" "new world order" "obama" any other secret society or religious groups you please and find just about the same accusations leveled at them. Most of these websites are conspiracy sites that are perhaps not unbiased observers, shall we say. I'm sure there are a few pedophiles and the like in the masons, basic statistics says there must be. But all of what you've posted are largely anecdotes with little proof of a larger conspiracy. But the genius is that you can just say that's another part of the conspiracy. If I went and found sites of similar quality I could "prove" that Blair is actually part of a larger invasion of the planet by a reptilian alien species bent on galactic domination and the Jews were behind 9/11. Also, how do the authors know every important politician is a 33rd lev Mason if they are also masters at hiding their identities

Jachin



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 17:13

I have been a Freemason for many years. Take a look at this site.

Jachin



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 17:17

I have been a Freemason for many years. Take a look at this site



http://www.province.org.uk

yrret


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 17:49

0chlor,

Worry ye not of the Brotherhood, there are far higher forces at work.

matula


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 17:54

Zerochlor, I had a browse through the link you posted and what a load of scurrilious garbage (yes I am a mason and proud of it!) I dare say if one was to delve deep enough on the internet one could find similar sites taking down the catholic church, Islam, The Oddfellows etc,etc.

Masonry is not a secret society---it is a society with secrets.



The only reason that brethren have to go south to attend lodge here is that the TRNC is not recognised as a bona fide country by any of the Grand Lodges in the world.

spider


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 18:05

matula nothing is a secret all is out...even when you meet one they like to let you know and that just makes one wonder why ? Once it was never to be told, but now its all told even by themselves TRNC may not be recognised but just by a masons terrible attitude of I am a mason gives anyone enough to shake their hands just the ONCE..We recognise you so why cant the lodge recognise the TRNC ? as a place to worship the likes of the works..



Just my thoughts on the few I have met thats all.





Spider,X

matula


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 18:13

Quite a garbled message spider. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 18:15

matula.



another mans medicine is another mans poison.



yes i am a mason and proud of it. and so you should be.its your choice to be .



its like my friend saying he is a bank robber and proud of it .There would be no diffrence!



Horses for courses.



As was pointed out earlier in the post, theres corruption in all walks of life, but some still try to deny it.



This post is not having a stab at masons,its saying there is corruption within freemasonary,but some like to try and say there is not.



Well i know there is.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 18:31

jachin.



nice website.



very informative of the charitable donations from the welsh lodges.



The village i lived in wales was full of your brotherhood,alot drank in my pub,9 miles the other side of aberystwyth towards aberaeron.



scootex,if your reading,i bought my pub of 1 of your brotherhood from monmouthshire.



In wales i feel the masons should take more of a back seat in some of the rural villages and let some of the younger people take control of the villages,and let them progress and move forward instead of keeping them in the dark ages.

Or that is what some of the youngsters who came into the pub used to say in wales.Not that this has anything to do with corruption.

Aberporth,tresaith,cilcennin,aberarth,the list is endless.



message 57

why try to antagonise,if you take your head out of the sand youll understand the post!

matula


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 18:42

zerochlor. there is corruption in all forms of life, we all acknowlege that. However as far as I am aware no one has ever gone to war over freemasonry which is more than can be said for religion.



I was educated in Scotland and the phrasing and grammar in spider's message leaves a lot to be desired. She (if indeed she is a she) as claimed in her profile can't even spell where she lives correctly---Kersiyaka- I ask you!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 18:46

so now you can understand why im a athiest.



I also have spelling problems some times,but i excel in other daily activities.



Lets get back on topic.



whats got a hazelnut in every bite?



squirrel shyte, not a topic

matula


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 18:52

Stick to what you know zero---pools!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:06

Well i thought it was a good joke!!

spider


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:17

matula I am very happy to meet up with you I for one do not hide myself in any way shape or form on this forum as even Cyprus today posted two photos of me for anyone to see..I is wat i is and tat is me..I was just posting what I know from when I have met with freemasons and how i found those few to be..Maybe you could just be an odd one out but something tells me perhaps NOT..It seems to me that perhaps you are a little offended by the whole thread..wats tat all abot mate..Its not a digg at you are I do not know youuuu..i fink you mite understand now..Have a good evening and I do so hope that you are able to read thisss. betya kan. )





Spyder.XX

spider


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:22

While I am at it do you know a place called Abalady although it may be spelt wrong..







Spider,X

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:46

I wanted to be a Mason, but every time I shook hands, tripped myself up!



wyn

honestie


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:47

zerochlor



great youve done it again another good thread and a matter I have great interest in!I darent give my views Ill get banned.



speak when I see you



honestie

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:49

Wyn. ) ) )



Hope you didn't hurt yourself!

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:57

No1Doyen.



I went a---se over elbow, and I was three degrees under for days!



wyn

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:02

Jackie.



Come on,spit it out.



it might be months ive got to wait to see my ex inspector friend of the manchester police force.



Now we could speak some home truths jackie ,right from the horses mouth.



I would never have started this post only for scootex giving me a verbal battering and denying that corruption was also within freemasonary.



But jackie,i know you will have first hand experience about all ive been talking about.

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:14

Re : Msg 24,



"No, I'm not a member although I know that there are many Ladies Lodges around- (???????????)-. Actually it doesn't interest me at all -seems rather boring to have to learn all those speeches - ..."



essexgirl, you can not possibly be a member, this club for boys only...

Stick to Essex girls lunch group...

honestie


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:16

sorry Dave have to disappoint you not on this forum but yep very interesting!! dont forget women cant be in the club although theres is a womens group its not the same despite what is said.



you should read Martina coles books think she has some good contacts!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:19

message 71



clarissa



before essexgirl comes back.



have a little read of this.



alot do not know,but its true!



http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2010/02/cameron-takes-the-lady-freemasons-to-tea/

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:29

PS clarissa



But well put

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:40

message 72



im sure your version of things will be worth waiting to hear,so ill wait.



I am going to buy some of her books,ive only recently become aware of her.



Reading some of the extracts from her books on her website she really does like to keep it real.



Its the best way in life.

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:43

Dave - you've missed out mate. I seem to remember she was in NC earlier in the summer signing copies of her books. I believe it was at Neil Anthony's salon?



J

honestie


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:49

well worth reading reminds you of the old times. In fact think we may have both been in them opposite sides of course!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 20:54

Jeannie.



that is when i became aware of her as a writer,ive only ever liked true crime novels before,but after reading some of her extracts,i think she is maybe as near to true crime as youll get other than true crime novels.



Jackie.



quite possible.

scootex



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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:50

Zerochlor 34 postings by you from a total of 78 must be some sort of record .

So you believe everything you read by the look of it most as has already been said is total garbage and written by left wing journalist with an axe to grind but as I said what if everybody started beleiving what the GC say about the TC and the TRNC do you beleive their tainted press and properganda machine I think it is you that is brainwashed . But then I feel that if you are in business and can't put you proper name and age on a forum like this one has to ask oneself what are you hiding .

I suggest you do your own research to find the true freemason over the centuries you would be amazed of the people who have supported it for the good of their fellow man what you don't know is that when ever their is a world disaster it is always the fremasons who give the first cheques but unlike other organizations it is usually made though orgaisation like the red cross as we do not seek publicity for the good we do

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:56

you still evade the question scootex.



is there corruption from within freemasonary, simple yes or no will do ?



As for me not putting my real age and name,oh and heres the same old shyte,im in business so i shouldnt do this and shouldnt do that,poppy cock.



Every 1 knows my real name and phone numbers,and so do you,look on the bottom of the emails that you got off me in reply to yours.



Again just a answer yes or no will do to my question.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 22:00

36 now



thought id beat the last record!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:18

message 79.



you do not seek publicity for the good we do ,you say.



All you have harped on about is the good that freemasons supposedly do in all your posts,i thought you where not publicity seekers?



Now answer my question.



Do you still deny that there is corruption from within freemasonary, YES OR NO?

Krypton


Joined: 02/09/2010
Posts: 179

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:23

Why are there 2 threads going on about the same subject???

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:44

Fred



read the heading of each thread



They are so very diffrent



If you dont mind,lets get back on thread

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:49

zerochlor you do yourself no favours

Krypton


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Posts: 179

Message Posted:
15/09/2010

Surely this thread should be closed

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 00:10

message 85



im not looking for favours, just a yes or no from the man who verbally batterd me .



Mr Mullin said that they had presented the United Grand Lodge with a list of 161 names over the summer with a request to say who were Freemasons.



Ninety-six were former members of the West Midlands Serious Crimes Squad, which was disbanded in 1989 for corruption.



About 60 - including some journalists as well as police officers - were involved with the investigation into the IRA Birmingham pub bombings which led to the wrongful conviction of the Birmingham Six.



krypton,. why should it be closed?

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 00:14

No response on my post then? I guess I've proven you're part of an anti-Mason "conspiracy". Probably run by the New World Order to distract from the fact that the Illuminati are taking control of Western governments in an effort to ensure both the Zionists and Radical Islamists are able to take control of Wall Street with the help of the Scientologists.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 00:24

mahdel



I said before and i say again,ive nothing against free masons or the police,as for you thinking im anti mason,so wrong.

The Illuminati are not taking control of nothing,they are again a secret society dating back to the 1700s that to be honest i do not know much about.

I hope that partly answers your question.

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 05:17

i thought the Illuminati, was people that changed bulbs in street lamps in italy lol

honestie


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Posts: 468

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 10:06

Dave



you know theres corrruption in the freemasons just as there is in the church the police bla bla bla.



sometimes as we know the freemason connection in some of the organisations lends itself to the corruption and before anyone says I dont know what Im talking about believe me I do . Its a male secret society with very deep roots and has many offshoots of the organisation some of them being extremely sadonistic etc. and not that many of the public would know about.



But as in anything like the catholic church and the child abuse scandals and basically many organised crime there will be an element of corruption simply by the nature of the activities and Im sorry the freemason are in a position to influence many things not saying that is what they do but there is has and always will be an influence at times .



I know many good and bad members of freemasonry but the very fact it is as secretive as it is makes it appear sinister.

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 10:09

They do an awful lot of charity work and a lot of it goes unnoticed .The church does a lot of charitable work but both sects have a side that we often do not hear about.



I wish the illuminati would change the light bulbs here !!

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 10:20

I take it Zero's not a mason....................



but if they are that cunning and insidious.............



who knows, the long term effects of Zerochlor could be zero breath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

essexgirl


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 87

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 11:51

Honestie -Very interesting comments -thank you.



Msg 90 Very funny –that made me smile !



Msg 71 Clarissa –why don’t you stick to something you know something about? What is it about people that they have to have a jibe and try to make things personal. I re-iterate, there is nothing wrong with living in Essex –it is a very nice place to live. ‘Essexgirl’ is just a ‘handle’ –not a definition !!!



Msg 74– Zerochlor, you are just a wind-up merchant, although you do make some interesting points. Seriously, if I was you enjoying my life in NC, I certainly wouldn’t be wasting my time stagnating in front of the computer. Get back in that pool matey, all this stressing will give you a headache !!!

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 14:09

Re : Msg 94,



"Clarissa –why don’t you stick to something you know something about".



Entirely my sentiment, essexgirl, re: your writing about "Ladies Lodges"(Sic)!



"... I re-iterate, there is nothing wrong with living in Essex –it is a very nice place to live..."



I've never said anything to the contrary.



Clarissa

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 15:08

message 93



frontalman



i do not understand you comment



zerobreath ??



please explaine?

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 15:19

message 94



essexgirl



susie.



your 100% correct,i am a wind up merchant,glad you noticed that,but of course,i do not take life to serious as some,but i always stand by my words and actions,its not that im glued to the computer,im in my office and the computer is in front of me on the desk,so what better way to spend my time when i have free time than to write on the forum and add my 2 penneth worth,some find my threads funny and amusing,some find it hard to swallow,and some may find it offensive,,offensive i dont know why,as i only speak the truth ,but i do go against the graine,and as ive said in the past,i am anti authority and been called subversive,the latter i think not,as it have a few meaning.

The moral of this post is this.

elax,chill,dont take all you read so serious,lets all have the right to say what we wish,but dont get so excited and burst a blood vessel,because here the heat can get to most people and send them quakkers,and id hate to think some folk reading

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 15:20

my post are getting hot under the collar

scootex



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Posts: 908

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 16:47

go on zerochlor put one more posting after this so you can reach the 100 I think 45 of which are your postings

In answer to you question all societies have good and bad members but when found out they are asked to resign and if not they are expelled .what I can tell you is that in 24 years in freemasonary I have not come across the sort of wrong doing that you or the newspaper articles are going on a bout it strikes me from the way it is written, fiction posing as non fiction and the authors are just trying to sell their books .If you want secret societies I suggest you research the illuminati now that is scary !!!!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 17:01

Illuminati joined up with the masons in 1760s,but not for long,as the masons saw them for what they are,what ever that was!

Scootex,all ive asked for is a yes or a no to if there is any corruption from within freemasonary.



if you had of answerd it 40 posts ago this might not of reached 100.



But the way its going,it will be like a game of darts.



180!



i know full well of corruption in lots of societies,when you spat your dummy out when i said



the wonders of freemasons huh



corrupt to the core.



you could of just asked me why i thought it was corrupt to the core.



But instead you decided to give me a verbal beating,and denied any corruption came from within freemasonary.



Any way,you can answer the question still if you wish. but only yes or no !

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 17:10

scootex





30years in the policeforce and I can assure you there were some seroius masoin wrongdoers but was that because they were in the police or were masons.



I will never know as I was and hopefully still am a woman and as such not privvy to the secret society which it is and which you cant deny.



Of course there is corruption in it just as I said earlier there is in the church, governments bla bla bla and just because they are excellent with charity work doesnt mean to say theres no corruption just as I repeat it is in all other organisations and you are very naive if you think it isnt.



As for the illuminati I thinh Dan Browns books were nearer the truth than we think.!



As far as this thread goes there will be many defend and there will be many who attack depends which side youre looking at it from.



Cant believe Im writing about masons in north cyprus I must get out more often!

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 17:16

my mate pikey could tell you a lot about the freeloaders



Cant believe Im writing about masons in north cyprus I must get out more often!



DID you know not 1 Freemason was killed on the murder mile in lefkosia despite t/cs having to cross each week too the lodge in the south !

flawww


Joined: 12/09/2010
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 17:24

Quite an interesting thread i say. ;)

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 17:31

doppegganger



no I didnt enlighten me please do as I dont get out often!

DeaconB


Joined: 13/07/2010
Posts: 120

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 17:49

I am a mason and proud of it. Essexgirl is mostly right zero hasn't got a clue. Gary Robb claimed to be a mason but he isn't and never was, nuf said.

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:02

deaconB



I was a police officer and proud of it but still doesnt mean there werent and arent coorupt ones just the same for masons surely or are you saying that there couldnt possibly be.



nuf said too.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:10

DeaconB



what have i not got a clue about old buy?



There are many crooks who are masons and many masons who are crooks But that does not matter.



Of course you should be proud of it Deacon,if you was not,what would be the point?



But i hope you take off your blinkers before you go to sleep in the evening!

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:17

One thing you haven't a clue about zero is English grammar and spelling! I rest my case.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:29

matula



is that it



is that your best?



pathetic



you got no case to rest. Anything else you wish to pick up on,careful you dont fall over your zimmer!

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:34

Dave I remember you once telling me.... You dont need to spell, only count

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:37

Thats correct tootie. you got a good memory.



matula ,it was a typo in message 107,i type so fast and with not looking at the keyboard i make many mistakes.



But make no mistakes about this thread,its ongoing,so lets get back to the topic shall we,if thats ok with you matula?

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:37

Did I touch a nerve zero?

DeaconB


Joined: 13/07/2010
Posts: 120

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:37

Anything is possible honestie but criminals are not accepted as masons. There are criminals in all walks of society and always will be but the conspiracy theory, apart for being utter crap spouted by people with no idea, is an insult to many masons who do so much work for charity. For anyone with any doubts popular route for police promotion is now with the Rotary or the Lions, not the masons.



Zero can you keep a secret?

cyprusjoker


Joined: 29/08/2009
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:43

Message 108 Matula. Cheap shot.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:44

matula.



No nerves touched .



I do not bite very easy.



Its the likes of you and your oppos who bite,cast out the line and wait to reel you in.



I think you need to read this thread to see who hit a nerve matey boy



Now dont forget your tablets!

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 18:44

Msg 113 "Anything is possible honestie but criminals are not accepted as masons."



Anything is not possible then.

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 19:03

messg 113



how would you know they are a criminal theres lots of criminals about who havent been to court or found out.



bit like the church. its called the real world

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 19:11

And how do the masons know if you have a criminal record or not?

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 19:15

They can always ask a policeman.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 19:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqwOFuHGnW4&feature=related

matula


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Posts: 647

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 19:56

Message 114 cyprusjoker---not as cheap as "zimmer frames and tablets"

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 19:58

matula. take note.



zimmer was said,,,and tablets was said......that was all after your cheap shot.



as your english bible says,,,,,,a eye for a eye matey

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 20:23

Actually it says "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth"



If a word starts with a vowel it is preceded by AN and if it doesn't begin with a vowel then it is preceded by A.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 20:43

you could of been my school teacher matula, but i never went to school.all i wanted to do was learn to count,which i can.

JohnW


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Posts: 601

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 20:48

What about "an hour"

JohnW


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Posts: 601

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 20:51

or "a unicorn"

matula


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Posts: 647

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 20:51

The H is silent.

JohnW


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Posts: 601

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 20:55

So "a humble pie" and "an honerable man."

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 20:57

maybe the americans where the true masons. And the english followed!



http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/awards-organizations/freemason3.htm

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 21:00

"a university", "a one-eyed man."

cyprusjoker


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Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 21:02

"An Illeagal" - a sick bird.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 21:05

i was just looking at the amount of sex offenders there are in england and wales. shocking really. if the statitisics are correct.



now its got me wondering.



hmmmm.



i feel a new post comming on!



But lets get this back on topic please.

clifhanger


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 09:06

gary robb is said to be a mason

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 12:27

clifhanger.



nothing would surprise me of who is or is not or who says they are.

clifhanger


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 12:58

lost me there dave

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 13:01

it was a reply to your post.



nothing would surprise me who could or is or wants to be a mason

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 18:56

Okay, okay as a freemason I've got to come clean. Jack the Ripper was of course a mason, so I think it right and proper that we take the rap for the 1888 Whitechapel Murders.......

clifhanger


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 19:23

masons will of course deny any involvement in the murder mile killings here in cyprus .





none of them were killed denktash . papadopolous samson wereand are masons

crimper


Joined: 08/05/2010
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
20/09/2010 17:02

Freemasons on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLaoUtcmonk&feature=related

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
20/09/2010 18:42

crimper.



id like to feel her funny handshake !!