making a will please advise

wagon


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:31

Please advise how do I make a will here.

Been told solicitors charge over 130 sterling

Can I do my own, and how do I go about it

Thanks

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:34

Download your blank ("do it yourself and save 100 Sterling") will here: http://www.cyprusdownload.nl

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:38

Sorry, I forgot to mention the password to expand the file with the will: normal (case sensitive).

wagon


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:38

I have tried to do what you say

but it will not open

wattys


Joined: 07/10/2008
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:49

My Advice use a solicitor Nahomi Mehmet £125.00 you know the jobs done right.

wagon


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:55

managed to do it

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:25

Don't forget you need to lodge your will at the court. passport and 36Tl stamps each needed.

mamachina


Joined: 22/11/2008
Posts: 730

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 16:47

If you are doing a simple (or a back to back will) then do it yourself/partner its cheaper than going to an advocate however good. (about 40 lira each) If you have a lot of stuff out here and lots of people to leave it to, then go to Naomi or other. We have made the simplest we could - everything to the partner left. Then it will be up to that one to sort it out further for themselves once Probate is through. Remember you still need another one for anything you have in UK.

onestop


Joined: 31/10/2009
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 17:12

Wagon

Can you send it to us please, when I download it is saying "decompression failed"

Thanks

info@surecyprus.com

PompeySmiths


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 19:28

Ok so got the template. Whoevers name is entered onto the will also needs his or her passport number. Does this mean you have to amend the will each time a passport number changes?

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 23:15

No I wouldn't think so as your passport number will be on the computer.

I have a 10 year driving licence and when my passport was changed I asked the police that same question and they said no.

If you discover differently could you post on the forum please.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 08:44

I got several emails from people who downloaded the free, blank "will" from my site (read messages 2 and 3 in this thread) but couldn't decompress the zip.file. The simple reason is that you don't have the (standard) software on your computer to decompress zipped files. You can donload the necessary unzip-software here: [ http://is.gd/fblio ]

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 08:46

Typo: donload = download of course.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 11:02

Best NOT to 'play the end game' in Cyprus - North or South - especially for the husband, or male partner!

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 11:32

I agree with Tenakoutou... "DON'T DIE HERE"!!!!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 12:04

Thanks, martinD41!



But, then again, I've only lived in Cyprus for 30 years - North & South - but could relate umpteen circumstances where sole beneficiary widows have been cheated out of their rightful and intended inheritance.



To appoint a Cypriot 'lawyer' as an 'Executor' is tantamount to giving him/her 'carte blanche' re. 'testimentary expenses'!



Anybody remember this little song?



'My *father died the other day and left me all his riches,

A wooden bed, his wooden leg, and that was all his riches!'



*For the purposes of relating the above little ditty to Cyprus, one should substitute 'husband' for 'father'!

Swany



Joined: 01/12/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 17:52

Not wanting to be a damp squib on saving money or adding to the superfluity of negativity on this Cyprus 44 I still thought it would be advisable to point out the following: -



“It seems that in the United Kingdom the biggest reason for wills failing, i.e. being rejected for Probate, is down to defective attestation (this is the witnessing; both who and when). This failing is most frequently found when DIY wills are presented for Probate. The proper procedure is surely mentioned in the instructions of the DIY will package but the potential for missing this one vital point is very high.”



I assume I missed the instructions in download of the simple TRNC will explaining the who and when of witnessing or is this not important in the TRNC like it is in the UK.



The other advantage of using a professional is because they can be sued for any mistakes made giving peace of mind that a DIY will does not afford ones loved ones.

pupaden


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 00:36

i have asked for the password for the reservoir maps by e-mail but had no reply please DutchCrusader reply by e-mail best regards

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 08:43

Swany/Msg 17: 'The other advantage of using a professional is because they can be sued for any mistakes made...'



Try and sue a 'professional' in TRNC and find out what your result is!



Actually, I'll tell you: with the very same 'superfluity of negativity' you are accusing decent, honest and innocent victims of the 'legal' system of complaining about on this forum!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 09:11

RE msg 18, pupaden: (...) i have asked for the password for the reservoir maps by e-mail but had no reply please DutchCrusader reply by e-mail best regards (...)

=> I'm sorry for this - I missed your email, but you'll receive the passwords for the maps that are ready this morning.

Swany



Joined: 01/12/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 09:19

Tenakoutou / Msg 19:

Sorry point noted and that was NOT my intention. I should have made myself clearer. I believe there is a distinction between complaining about a grievance and being negative about a post. It was the latter that I was fearful of doing especially when it comes to a money saving idea.



So if I have offended or folk feel wrong accused I am sorry that was not my intention.



For the record I have thankfully not had to sue in the TRNC and as such my post 17 should be viewed in that light and thank you for the insight others have brought see post 19.



The point I wanted to make and still stand by is great care should be taken with DIY wills. (I guess like anything DIY fine as long as you completely know what you are doing).

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 10:06

Swany could you expand on the witness rules please are there rules governing who can witness the will? If so who and where as you mention in post 17?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 10:08

Swany/Msg 21: 'The point I wanted to make...'



The point I wanted to make is that you won't find a TRNC 'lawyer' willing to sue another 'lawyer'.



I tried, and was told that in TRNC legal practice that: 'This is unethical.'



So, whether it be 'No duty of care', or gross negligence [as in my case, both of which cost us half our life savings], any TRNC 'lawyer' can act without a scrap of accountability, and with total immunity and impunity.



[Latin] CAVEAT VIDUA! = BEWARE WIDOW!

Swany



Joined: 01/12/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 11:20

Panchocat / 22

In the England and Wales the main rules for witness of a will are: -



You need two witness and they must be over the age of 18

The witness can NOT be a beneficiary

An Executor can be a witness but they must not be a beneficiary

A professional advisor cannot be a witness if they are to be an executor and intend to charge for their services.

The witnesses must see the signature being signed and sign at the same time with the date reflecting this. A lawyer’s file note should carefully reflect that this has been the case.

The witness does not have to see the content of the will they only have to witness the signature being signed.



I do not know what the rules are in the TRNC.



Tenakoutou / 23

Very sorry about your experience sounds awful thanks for the warning.

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 11:30

Thank you Swany for that information.

dixie45


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 42

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 12:46

I was a IFA for 25 years, and looking at the TRNC will form, 2 things give cause for concern firstly no provision for having separate Trustees and Executors,and secondly Paragraph 5, which gives catre blanche to the lawyer for "charges & expenses",with this in mind I am now going to be offering a Will writing service with English worded wills, and also Private Medical Insurance, look for forthcoming adverts or hearing from you personally.

R.C.T.Man.



Joined: 27/03/2009
Posts: 746

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 12:56

What is catre blanche?

dixie45


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 42

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 16:38

sorry, it should read Carte,but I think you knew that already