The leader of the biggest PAEDOPHILE RING in the WORLD

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 14:51

The leader of the biggest paedophile ring in the world is revered and honoured upon his arrival in our country, he is fetted by our Queen....I find this totally abhorrant and truly disgusting..suffer the little children to come unto me so I can bugger, rape and abuse them ...in the name of Jesus...how sick are we as a nation!!!!!!!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 14:52

must be the pope!

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 14:55

apparently more lawyers are paedophiles than priests.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 14:55

Rid the world of all Faiths - think how many millions of lives would be saved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 14:59

MsGarnet hear hear.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:02

message 3, but you do not hear about the lawyers so much do you??



i wonder why that is,if its true what you say?

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:14

Couldn't agree more Dee, Its disgusting !

Been watching it on Sky news and its unreal.

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:17

Very strong statement, but difficult to argue with.



wynyardman

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:19

zerochlor, just heard about lawyers on BBC Radio 2!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:30

Does any one know if any of these so called 'priests' otherwide known as Paedo's have been brought to trial?

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:35

message 9.



The world is going crazy,makes me sick to think the future of tomorrow is not safe in our world.



Dee, im sure if any had been brought to trial,you would know,it makes the news then gets swept under the carpet.

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:44

how could they of paid out millions in compo but none nicked eh

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 15:59

Closed circle and swept under the carpet as you say zero...it brings a whole new meaning to kissing the ring of the pope!

barnaclebill


Joined: 12/12/2008
Posts: 303

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 16:05

Msg 10

On the news last night of 21 priests brought to trial who received a custodial sentence 13 are still officially listed as priests.This means they are still housed and looked after by the Church.It was recommended by, I think Lord Nolan,that any priest receiving a sentence of more than 12 months should no longer be allowed to practice,but this is not agreed with by the Catholic Church.I think the German Cardinal summed up what is thought of the UK by the Catholic Church when he said we were a 3rd World Country.

Goonerboy


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 723

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 16:13

Was watching Sky News and they had a gay priest on who had been told he could no longer run a church since he'd come clean. Whilst being interviewed he claimed MORE THEN HALF of all Catholic PRIESTS were gay...makes you wonder how large scale the Peado ring actually is

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 16:19

send in thye protestants to wipe them all out

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 16:21

going larley unrepirted in the uk press chid abuse by imams is on the increase



http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/04/child-pimping-imam-hundreds-of-under-age-islamic-marriages-preformed-in-finland.html



http://christianchildabuse.blogspot.com/2010/02/imam-remanded-on-child-rape-charges.html



http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/02/11/imam-accused-of-child-sex-offences/



http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_25044.shtml



http://www.nowpublic.com/strange/teacher-accused-child-abuse-maldives



http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/16605/



http://incognito73.instablogs.com/entry/imam-in-sweden-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-11-year-old-student/

racoonchic



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Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 16:22

they should have been more suspicios when the pope bought his own ice cream van and started sellin 69ers with a poke

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 16:34

I was brought up to be Roman Catholic. I HATED IT. I went to a catholic junior school, was made to sit through an hour and half latin mass as a child.



My dad had to convert, so he could marry my mom, he hated the religion and evrything it stood for, I remember when they used to collect forDr Barnado,s he told me what was going on,



He was later proved right



My Mother his a devout R. C. and has put the church before her whole family, she is a hypocrite, and had affairs with her friends husband from church. but she can go to confession and cleanse herself.



I used to try to ask my mom, how can a priest who has no proper knowledge of real life, IE. having a wife and a family, etc how can he be looked upon.



Did you ever watch the TV series the Lakes. It is in the DVD shop at Alsancak.



On a lighter note . I remember my mom telling me it was an honour to kiss the bishops ring. But I decided to pass on that one.

Goonerboy


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 723

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:04

Doppelganger,



Are you using those links to justify the behaviour of Catholic priests?



Get a life mate

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:12

He should have been arrested soon as he set foot in the UK. But no, he's off to dine with the queen, says a lot of the morals of our so called establishment.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:13

No-one can justify the actions of paedophile priests, but isnt it getting a bit wall to wall. If the German head of state visited UK would all the media be full of German activities in the period 1933 to 1945?

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:30

And Goonerboy, msg 15, you make the common mistake of assuming that gay means paedo.

WRONG!!!

I think something like 96% of paedophile attacks on children occur within the close family by so-called HETEROSEXUAL members of that family!

clifhanger


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:32

Goonerboy



i am using the links to say relgios people of some faiths abuse childern .



can i have compensation please I WAS brought up catholic and an alter boy and not abused.



io have a life and am very happy with it thank you Goonerboy also very sorry for the victims of abuse by whatever faith leader

clifhanger


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:41

get a flippin edit button on here

doppelganger


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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:46

Clifhanger, I think Goonerboy was referring to my post. Are you on the right thread?

clifhanger


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:55

oops posted before i put the links on



http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/



http://100777.com/node/463



http://www.iamthewitness.com/listeners/Jewish.child.molesters.that.are.never.on.the.NEWS-WHY.htm



http://www.hagalil.com/bet-debora/jewish-women/golandsky.htm

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:55

Dusterbruce Msg 22



You must realise that the present pope was given the responsibility by the previous pope to sort out and get rid of the child abusing priests. He did very little to clear up the problem and in fact just sat on the reports and did very little. This is hardly a comparison to what happened 50 years ago, considering the present leader of Germany was not responsible for the actions of the Nazis party.

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 18:43

there has been cover up of the child abuse investigation within the church and many other religions for many years. there was a cover up in care homes too which only came to light about 16 years ago or should I say was only taken seriously then.



It is not just the catholic church but many organisations that hide behind love care bla bla bla as these institutions are the very ones that abusers use as the most common feature of an abuser is to first get trust and then uses other means like fear.



A complicated subject which will never never go away and we are only just at the tip of an iceberg look at the recent case in Portugal.



These people in power ie the pope etc have a way to deal with them . They should never be in the priesthood ever .



as I think has already been pointed out being gay is in no way connected to being a paedophile.



Paedophiles range from family to all professions and one of the hardest offences to prove in a criminal court

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 21:35

There's no doubt that the World has it's far share of neanderthals. The originator of this thread fits the bill nicely. A lot of people in the entertainments business are gay (care to comment Johnny). Quarmby your in a category of your own. Bigot should fit well! To the member that linked homosexually with pedophilia just exactly how thick are you?

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 21:37

I find it dispicable that one single penny of our money is being spent on protecting the Pope on his visit........the Catholic church is rich as croesus, they have a HUGE property portfolio; the Vatican being a town in its own right, with its own Bank - can WELL afford to provide for itself. For Catholicism to encourage the spread of aids by banning birth control, and positing marriage is for procreation.......(what about couples who have no parental instinct whatsoever) - oh - can't be bothered to go on - I LOATHE all Religion.......

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 21:43

..................MsGarnet I couldn't have put it better myself.............

newscoop


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Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:17

johnnylee;



Dr Barnardo's?



what has that institution got to do with catholicism?



Also were you abused at your RC school or church?



Paedophilia seems to be rife among our ruling classes and people who espouse alternative sexual practices (Peter Tatchell condemns the Pope but a few years ago said sex with young boys was natural) where's the condemnation? It's disgusting but it isn't the sole preserve of the catholic church.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:37

If someone throws eggs at the Pope will the next days newspaper heading be: 'EGGS BENEDICT'.    

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:40

Only yolking....

Blackbird



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Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:48

eggsactually!

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:56

I called my first son Benedict, apparently its a pope-ular name.    

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:58

I think the pope fancies a pizza, he keeps mentioning dominos. )    

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 23:25

he sat next to our queen , then went on to bless everything christian , hypocritical ,child abusing ,bxxxaxxds ,he was in scotland today , not one unionjack ,nor scottish saltires in the crowd , oh no , the green white and gold of ireland , the same creed that left the lights on for german u boat commanders in the 2nd world war , brainwashed ,ignorant and interbred , not to mention stupid , hitler hated papish , they were next on the list to be exterminated,

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 23:35

It seems totally appropiate [at this present point in time - sh1t, I hate that expression!] to re-post this link!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpuYoK6wv_Y



Had of been me, I'd have raced down the church and castrated that 'Holy Joe'!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 23:39

its a shame the only thing they know as holy , is young boys axxxs ?

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 23:45

message 33.



leon brittain used to like barnardos in ireland in the 80s, so lord lucan,s cousin told me !

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 00:35

Message 39 - Rowlo, plenty of St Andrews crosses and the white and gold was the Vatican flag.

Message 1 - Deecyprus, looks like the small minded propaganda campaign has worked with you.

Message 4 - Msgarnet, Why do you hate all religions, you must have studied them for years. Please explain further I dont really understand how ridding the world of faith would save many millions of lives.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 00:40

there you go ,the ignorant and the stupid sum it up in one message ? i never said white and gold , i said green white and gold , to keepit simple for you irish tricolours ?

madturk


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 217

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 00:54

typical bored expats in a muslim country, with nothing better to do than slag off a man of principles, sadly as you all forget peados are not exclusive to the catholic faith , they are in your street on the inter net. every where you go ,any one you see could be a pedeo.

give credit to the older generation who belive in the pope and god , this is how their faith carries them through the long dark days of their lives, when they have deaths ,illnesses in their lives , a belief in something helps them through the day. not pratts like you who think they no better.



Posting edited due to inappropriate language.

AJ

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 01:48

rowlo i really like you but i take great exception st your comment. As you know I'm Irish and as such a catholic. I never saw abuse in the church but saw a lot in the family,as i have read many books regarding this subject in uk usa etc. I believe more goes on in the family. Especially as the mum will have several lovers and the poor kids several step dads. look at the statistics. Yes the catholic church is guilty as is the other denominations, Go to any childrens home and See it. it goes on and on. The order of god should be that not suffer little children to come to me. I am an Irish catholic and hate what i se and read. Two of my cousins are nuns in the Congo and 5 are missionaries. I would hate to think that the great work they do is subjected to child abuse. more goes on in the home. I agree that our present pope should address the issues, but to this day it goes on in childrens homes all over. i could write books on it x

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 02:04

Lilli - you are absolutely (and sadly) correct. This has always gone on and, sadly, always will do, although hopefully less now than in the past. You will probably also remember the Magdalen Girls - those poor kids who were made pregnant before they were married, or perhaps a little bit slow, who were incarcerated in Ireland in the 50's. You've probably read books on them, like I have. The Catholic church is held in far less esteem in traditional Catholic countries, e.g. Ireland and Italy, than it used to be, mainly because younger generations can see the hypocrisy that has surrounded it for so many years. My great grandmother lived in mortal fear of the priest. However, no-one should denounce the fact that many people draw a lot of comfort from their faith - I am not one of them, being an atheist - but each to their own. As has been said on here, what's with the sweeping generalisation that all priests are paedophiles? Paedophilia unfortunately goes on in all walks of life.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 02:16

personally it is not the abuse (not excusing it ) but the bare faced denial and even convicted priest/clergy are not struck off , but it is hidden , same theroy as bent coppers ( sorry bent wrong word) , dishonest politicians or dodgy developers...........



again one rule for one ......................



btw personally think all religion is up to the individual , but most free thinking people have thier own opinions ..

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 07:39

We should not be surprised that the priesthood attracts a disproportionately high number of abusers... There are obvious opportunities provided by the mystery and contact with vulnerable people to see how this would be so.



It's the same with all institutions where vulnerable children are in contact with adults... The home, the orphanage, the boarding school, the scout troop.... all unfortunately act as a magnet for those unable to resist their urges.



What is shocking is that the Church of all institutions on discovering this, sought to hide it and protect the perpetrators... that is a betrayal of trust which outweighs all other crimes against these children. If the Church can't be trusted, the Church should not exist.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 08:07

I didn't say it, but it has been said that: 'Religion is the root of all evil!'



Many would say: 'History has proved it!'

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 08:23

Two Catholic Priests using ajoining urinals, one looks down and notices the other has a nicotine patch on his penis and says ' you are supposed to wear the nicotine patch on your arm! the other one says

--





Wait for it







Wait for it!









' It's working a treat as I have only had two butts today!!!!!

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 10:10

mad turk





if the man of principles had principles then there would not be such an outcry.



i agree religion gives hope and faith to many yet at the same time that same thing destroys many.



I do not think it is expats having nothing better to do than slag him off it is because yet again it is so topical and even more abhorent as it is the church.



As I said of course it goes on in all walks of life i know I dealt with them and nothing sadly surprises me or shocks me anymore but there is even worse I can assure you and in most peoples minds its abuse in the home that always comes to mind. The abuse that goes on in places of religion or care etc etc seem to shock the most



given the nature of what has taken place and will continue then I think expats or anyone has a right to voice an opinion surely of something that is of such importance

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 10:12

Rowlo you muppet, what i was saying was there wasnt any Irish flags in the crowd they were the vaticans colours. "Ignorrant and stupid" add biggoted and maybe try looking closer to home matey.



Much love,



JB

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 10:16

Tar and feather them!



Because sadly here torture is not allowed

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 11:33

Paedophilia is blatantly wrong but can those who blame the Roman Catholics for the worlds ills explain away their indifference to the orthodox church in the ROC and Serbia, and those extremely pious and peaceful Imams in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Finsbury Park, Dewsbury, Bradford, etc?

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 11:48

This thread is very offensive

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 14:15

So is the buggering and rape of innocent children, the wicked abuse of little ones..this thread is the truth!!

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 14:23

It is also true Muslims Kill far many more people than have ever been abused by catholic clergy but I will not start a thread on that as some one would deem it offensive.



This thread should be closed without delay it is insulting and offensive.there are child abuse victims in most religions and denominations.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 14:36

Amerillo



many more people are killed on the roads than in planes, so? what is the relevenvce of that to the topic of catholics abusing children? Stick to the thread.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 15:39

msg 58 ????? "There are child abuse victims in most religions and denominations " , Oh thats alright then is it ?

child abuse is never never acceptable in any circumstance at all .

Simbas

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 15:51

Simbas well said.

DesiH


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Posts: 152

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 16:13

Extract from message 39 - " brainwashed ,ignorant and interbred , not to mention stupid , hitler hated papish , they were next on the list to be exterminated" .



Offensive, at best. How hateful are some of the "messages" on this topic going to be allowed to go?

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 16:58

Msg 43 - It isn’t obvious? DEPENDING ON THE FAITH, extremist followers deem that apostates are to be killed by their erstwhile peers, for having a mind of their own and choosing the faith they want to follow, women are subjugated, forced by male relatives to cover themselves totally, however hot the weather, not allowed to be educated, drive cars, endure female and male circumcision, carry out heinous acts, yet every Sunday, say sorry – are told to say ten Hail Mary’s to gain forgiveness, then start all over again the next week. Women are made to shave their heads, wear wigs, then scarves over the wig (you just couldn’t make half this rubbish up) otherwise intelligent educated people live their lives NOT by using their own minds, but according to what a book written aeons ago, tells them to – women are forced into arranged marriage, buried up to their necks and stoned to death (males buried only up to their waists :o(), prevented from declaring their sexuality if Gay (cont):

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 17:01

undergo divisive education via Faith schools, can’t marry outside of their Faith, if they do, are disowned, bombings, deaths, misery, carnage, rapes, families torn asunder, bodies ripped apart, children marginalised and disenfranchised by their parents faith, babies die because their brainwashed parents won’t allow blood transfusion – one could write fifty books on the lunacy of Faith – whatever is wrong with thinking for yourself, that you have to let someone you will NEVER meet, think for you, tell you how to live your life - leaders of these Faiths have hedonistic avaricious lifestyles with unlimited amounts of money available to them, whilst their followers often live in straitened circumstances yet still give to their Faiths, what little cash they have - the millions the world over who have been killed maimed or destroyed in the name of Religion, beggars belief.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 17:21

Being a good Christian, and a good person begins at home. I know several living saints. people who have done and are doing so much.



With out any religous influence. Many of them are close friends here in TRNC, They go that extra mile and put other people and animals before there selves.

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 17:23

MsGarnet, i think your confusing religion and people who live in faith with cults and extremists.

I just cannot believe the hatred in some peoples posts.



JB

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 17:47

just a bit of bias sowing from the resident mod

birdy



Joined: 21/07/2009
Posts: 154

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 17:53

I agree with Msgarnet totally. god is in your heart if you got a good heart you will know when what you do is wrong you don't need to go to church or any places of worship. people go to thailand and have sex with little boys is this OK why don't the MPs stop this cos it would ruin there holiday.

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 17:54

Simbas has closed less offensive threads ad think this thread is ok as a new member recommended to this forum I



CAN NOT BELIEVE THE BIGOTED HATRED EXPRESSED



Simbas resign with immediate effect



the thread is in breach of rule 3



3. Be Polite

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so>>> respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack.<<<< Any member who is >>>>intentionally unpleasant <<


it is my contention the thread is intentionally unpleasant as any practicing roman catholic would agree .

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 18:05

JamesB-I don't hate people (if your remark is directed towards me) who label themselves as adhering to a Faith. I DO hate the misery that millions endure in the name of, or because of, Faith. We are all born Faithless; it is our families or peer group or society that suck huge tranches of society in to letting Religion direct, inform, contaminate, decide, instruct et cetera, how to live our lives, instead of raising us to think for ourselves, take responsibility for our own actions and not (like Bush and Blair for instance) displace it onto our particular God. Islam, Catholocism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Budhism, Rastafari and so forth. Religious people do belong to cults, and of course I DID make mention of extremists as being the most dangerous form of follower of any Faith, that said, anyone declaring themselves as a follower of any Faith, is saying, they don't think entirely for themselves, to a greater or lesser degree, an unknown decides their life path 4 them

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 18:09

Amerillo - one has a blind Faith, if one has a Faith that doesn't brook any questioning of its tenets or mores. A blind Faith is the most dangerous faith of all, because it won't entertain questioning or others needs for clarification or justification of what it stands for. If one believes that how one thinks and what one does, is morally and socially acceptable, one puts that argument forward, and explains why, just as those of us that think Faith is heinous, have given our reasons why we think the way we do.

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 18:15

i have faith when i die i am dead worms will eat my bone dogs will pee on my grave council workers will topple my grave stone because of elf and safety the they will dig me up and put me in a mass grave.

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 18:29

"anyone declaring themselves as a follower of any Faith, is saying, they don't think entirely for themselves, to a greater or lesser degree, an unknown decides their life path 4 them"



Correct.



and some are happy to live there lives in this way,



JB

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 18:51

Amerillo, I take it you want the BBC off the air too?



This thread is not anti Roman Catholicism it's anti covering up wrong-doing or perverted priests and teachers.... The very people one is meant to be able to turn to in a moment of need who have betrayed that trust and now it seems with impunity provided by the very church they have betrayed.



Sorry but these things are grist to our mill and if you don't like us discussing the topic I suggest you either don't read the thread or go elsewhere. At lowest you should ask yourself if your faith is not misplaced.



Oh and read Rule 5 about freedom of speech... we take that very seriously here too.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 19:00

This thread is true life,nothing here is offensive,other than some of the replies,the actual thread is big news and very real.

Quite strange actually Amerillo,that you choose the pope to comment first on, not,hello im new to the forum,blaa blaa.



I think you are already a member with another name.



If im wrong,oh well,but only you know.



Personally,any child abuser needs a pan of boiling water with 1kg of sugar in it pouring over there head,just for starters!



Knocks me sick the thought of it.

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 19:05

Hey ho no more on thr glitter girls or pedo imams from me if te peodos victims had Mohameds pic on there arse action may be taken

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 19:18

Now you are just being childish...

DesiH


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 152

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 19:22

You call one of the largest religious denominations in the World - "the biggest PAEDOPHILE RING in the WORLD" and its not meant to be offensive??

Who are we trying to kid here?

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 19:32

I agree DesiH (as an Agnostic) but it is the sort of ignorant rubbish you get on here at times.

Married men abuse their own children, and it happens all over the world unfortunately.

There were thousands of welcoming people in Edinburgh, Glasgow, and now in England with

thousands of saltires (St. Andrew's flags)

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 19:46

As a percentage of the Church as a whole though it is for its size the highest in the world... i.e. maybe one in a hundred thousand in the general population and more than a thousand in the Church... it's a horrific concentration of evil doing.... and it still goes back to the cover up... OK the abuse happens in the big bad world but when someone in authority is told about it.... they usually do something about it... this has not been the experience in the RC Church... has it?



As head of that Church and ex-Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith: 1981–2005 responsible directly for the disciplining of Priests caught carrying out acts of paedophilia I think it's fair to ask, given the church's record on this subject, whether he is fit to hold such a position.



In politics we'd expect a Minister to resign if he'd failed his subjects so miserably...



Blind faith is not the answer.

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 20:33

as I have said before it makes no differance if its religion or care homes or schools or in the family whatever and wherever it is a crime that is committed by the very people who are under the guise of caring that is what these offenders use for their prey



I have dealt with many paedophiles and they are from all walks of life from lower social classes to the people in power.



it is a sick crime and even sicker when its happening and not being dealt with by the powers that should and have the power to at least rid their organisation of them.



this thread could be discussed for ever and the crimes will continue for ever it is not about religion its about the corruption within that allows these people to continue but organised paedophile rings have very prominent connections and power!

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 21:09

Abstence is an UN-NATURAL act



No wonder Priests {pope included} start looking at anything with a pulse and wanting to bugger it !!!!







The Catholic church is still in the dark ages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 21:11

I thororoughly concur with MsGarnet's and Groucho's eloquent expose [sorry, no ecute symbol!] of this sickening paedophilia subject.



Of course it occurs, and continues to do so, and globally - but this thread is topical, and rightly so.



During the Pope's speech to the assembled children, I was highly amused to see that when BBC's camera focused on them, they were yawning, giggling and not taking the slightest bit of notice of all the euphemistic claptrap he was mouthing. Maybe there IS hope for this generation of children if they are raised as free-thinkers, and not as a 'mob of sheep', blindly following some cranky religion's leader, or that religion's outmoded doctrine!

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 23:33

If this thread was about murdering Mullahs it would be closed pretty sharpish!

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 00:06

newscoop



yes it probably would, but it isn't. Its about the hypocrisy of a man who is head of a religion and he was put in a position by the previous pope to sort out the abusive catholic priests and he just sat back and let it continue and now we have to listen to him preaching how morallity has deterioated in the world and he thinks we should look towards the church as a saviour to all of this. He is a hypocrite.

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 00:19

Quarmby;



you may think this thread is topical but it is virulently anti catholic and allows cavemen like Karakum5c to vent his bigoted spleen.



For that reason alone it should be closed.



By the way; I take it you're a closet fan of Stephen Fry and read the Gruniard?

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 00:21

Hiya news you took the words right out of my mouth. I do think our pope should address the situation. It can never be right when some one you trust uses this power but as I said look at the ones brought to justice, from Mps to low life, social worker , children's homes , your own homes etc it goes on the world over sadly, Its not right no child should live with that fear or that memory. Religion is going away from us all as kids today have a choice in the western world. Why should pope benedict sort it out when its been going on for years and no other pope addressed it. I do hope he takes the time to address it though as its hampering the visit. Quarmby he wasn't put in a position by the previous pope, they are voted in by the cardinals, as i recall it was quite a drawn out affair

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 00:35

Lilli

you have misunderstood me. the previous pope gave the present pope , when he was a cardinal, to look into the cases of catholic priests abusing children and unfortunately he did little to sort them out.



newscoop



I do not condone some of the of language used by a particular forum member.



I am not a closet fan of Stephen Fry or read the Gruniard, but you have now got me curious.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 00:53

Stephen Fry is a polymath who I greatly admire - he is a flawed individual (aren't we all)? that aside, what is the Gruniard?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 03:00

Let him/her that is without sin, cast the first stone.



Same old few with little to do in life......



May your god be with you, whoever he or she may be.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 03:48

my girlfriend called me a peodophile ....



i said that is a long word for a 6 year old (yfred daughter )

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 04:24

apc2010



your a sick puppy.



although i did laugh.



many a true word is said in jest.



Personally i think all kiddie ticklers or potential kiddie ticklers should be punished.



Punished how.



Any how the status quo think fit



Take it away from the courts.



Dont waste good tax payers money.



Let the public deal with it

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 06:18

"Why should pope benedict sort it out when its been going on for years and no other pope addressed it."



Lilli, I can't believe you said this... it beggars belief.



The point being made is not anti Catholic... it's anti perverted priests getting away with it. There is nothing wrong with being Catholic. There is a lot wrong with paedophilia.



"Let him/her that is without sin, cast the first stone."



Tiggy, yes we all commit sins and should not be thinking of stoning anybody to death - but does that excuse a filthy priest his base urges and actions? I don't think so - I think they need to be bought to justice otherwise, what price the good name of the Church?



Next you'll (all those who think this is best not discussed) will thinking about excusing bent cops, crooked lawyers, unqualified doctors, embezzling accountants, drug dealers, pimps and bank robbers.....



If priests don't re-establish a position of trust... would you want your child to come under their influence?

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 08:36

I saw with disbelief on sky father handing their children to the pope to be blessed...I wouldn't let a child of mine anywhere near a member of the church.

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 11:00

Having read all this I was tempted to post "Why tar them all with the same brush" and yes I do acknolwedge that everything was made worse by the church burying its' heas in the sand and then coving things up in many cases.



Then I though maybe I should learn more before I posted:



WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PRIESTS ABUSE: http://www.religioustolerance.org/clergy_sex8.htm

Child and youth sexual abuse by clergy. An overview: http://www.religioustolerance.org/clergy_sex6.htm

Wilkopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

Rate of abuse compared: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/07/mean-men.html

The Nature and Scope of the Problem of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Catholic Priests and Deacons in the United States: http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/PriestAbuseScandal.htm



Catholic Priests Aren’t the Only Ones Abusing Children ~ Wicked Cliffy: http://cliffy.typepad.com/cliffy/2010/03/catholic-priests-arent-the-only-ones-abusing-children-wicked-cliffy.html

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 11:12

The conclusion to the last report is particularly interesting:



http://cliffy.typepad.com/cliffy/2010/03/catholic-priests-arent-the-only-ones-abusing-children-wicked-cliffy.html



I don't mean to suggest that it excuses anything but it does put it into perspective and suggests that if the sort of abuse levelled at the catholic church by some on here is justified then it should also be levelled at other groups such as teachers.



The reality seems to be that maybe a couple of percent of catholic priests have abused, rather less than in some other groups. I would have thought that statistically speaking this level of abuse, rather lower than the general population, should have been predictable given what the church heirarchy would have known about these things and procedures should have been in place to look for and prevent it. It obviously wasn't in any meaningful way and there is the real fault in my view.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 12:30

I have read this thread with interest and feel that as often happens in any debate (not just on 44) it has the problem of being reduced to the lowest common denominator. We have had on here promulgated the idea that all homosexuals are paedophiles, all priests are paedophiles, the Pope is himself dubious and sick jokes. On the other side the idea that an any attack on the institution that is the Catholic Church is an attack on Catholics themselves.



None of the above are true, and the real problems and hopefully solutions are lost in such vapid rhetoric. The very title of the thread is wrong. The Catholic Church as an institution has generally failed to act responsibly in the light of some sickening crimes carried out by, for want of a better word, some of its officers, people who get a special degree of respect through being officers of the Church. As an institution therefore it has let its own members and the rest of the world down. The institution is culpable, not all Catholics.

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 21:27

Blimey Harold;



That was a really inciteful piece, I'm impressed.



Now here's an idea; Shut the thread down and then the hysterical atheistic/Prods/Guardian readers, can find some other organisation to tear to pieces.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 22:25

Ahh Newscoop your last suggestion would I feel be a mistake, as I believe that on most occasions poor debate is better than none.





Harold

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 00:20

Sarah@Sky: One worhsipper outside the Pontiff's residence was asked by Sky News' Fraser Maude what it felt like to see the Pope in the UK. He replied: "It is like asking what is love? You can't explain it, it's fantastic."



Oh i see!!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 12:23

Yes, I can see how fantastic it must be to actually see the turd-denters' mentor.......mmm!

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 16:47

Muhammad was a paedophile



http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=95798128854&topic=12751



does anyone want to admit that they too would have sex with a nine year old? NO?



Aisha was nine when e first penetrated her....

who here would let their 52 year old neighbor have sex with their child?



Muhammad didn't mind being a pervert did he?

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 16:59

its all dreadful. just found this,is it old or up too date?



AVERT stated that the Japanese people can practice sex

legally in the age of thirteen year. In Argentine, it is allowed

to practice sex in the age of thirteen. In Canada, until 1890,

the allowed age of consent was twelve years (6). Similarly,

the age of consent in Mexico is twelve years. In Panama and

Philippine, the age of consent is twelve years. In Spain (7),

Cyprus (8), South Korea, the age of consent is thirteen, while

in Bolivia, the sexual age of consent is the maturity age (9)

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 17:00

message 102



also this



http://www.scribd.com/doc/24732126/Why-Did-Prophet-Muhammad-Marry-Aisha-The-Young-Girl

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 17:09

Armadildo



Two wrongs never make a right... if the social morays of those times accepted such things then it should come as no surprise that such things did indeed happen - and just go with me here - I'm hoping that we have moved on and evolved from those times and now regard the raping and buggering of children as not an act commensurate with being a man of God whose job it is to protect the moral and physical well-being of and in particular the young people who most need society's protection...



Quoting one man's error never excused another... or did it? You tell me....

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 17:15

it never did and never does .



There is no excuse for child abuse incest forced marriage female circumcision or indeed buggery of boys by scout leaders.



look at what is going on in north yorks blind disabled children in huge proportions being born .



WHY ??



PAKISTANI MUSLIM Traditions..............incest is WRONG

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 17:25

Yet again you betray your inability to see that quoting one man's wrong doing can not excuse another's...



Religious institutions in particular have a special responsibility to their flock. If they betray that trust, then what price their good name.



I have no problem with religions and every problem with those who use a religion to cloak their and/or others nefarious activities and possibly even more problems with those who seek to deny the victims justice.



You tell me... a young boy comes to you and says 'that priest tried to stick his willy in me'... do you say 'don't worry boy that other man over there - he buggers boys too'



I think not but you tell me what the response should be....

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 17:47

We do not need this







There is no point this thread continuing



http://123proxy.co.uk/browse.php?u=Oi8vd3d3LmN5cHJ1czQ0LmNvbS9mb3J1bXMvNDU0NTAuYXNw&b=13



hypocrisy on 44 ????????????????

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 17:59

Amerillo/Msg 108: 'We do not need this'



Fortunately, for other forum members, you are not the one to decide!

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 18:18

Why has this insulting thread not been closed like the one about the Prophet?

Amerillo


Joined: 17/09/2010
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 18:25

hypocrisy on 44 ????????????????



again

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 18:42

Dusterbruce



Because the admins on here are neither objective nor professional. They allow their own personal views to overide their responsibility. They also favour certain posters over others.



They can also let the "Pope" thread run because there is no possibility of a serious response from anyone. On they other hand they are frightened of the possibilities when the Prophet is abused.



There very actions show that they are not fit to be admins. If a thread attacked one of their "friends" it would be closed in minutes.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 18:59

Amerillo, you obviously don't understand what hypocrisy is... But here's an example just to help you...



It would be hypocritical to admonish the Pope if your were in favour of his actions in hiding the paedophilia within the church... or to support his position if you are against hiding the paedophilia within the church.



I don't think anybody has been supporting transgressing Imams or anybody else for that matter whilst decrying the same behaviour in members of the Roman Catholic Church... as that would be hypocrisy.



The thread has been closed because it was not aimed at what is to many members difficult and important subject matter.. namely the wrong doing of people within their own communities who have betrayed their trust and worse still had it covered up... yes worse still. It was a deflection... again two wrongs don't make a right.



Or are you saying that some members are hypocrites because they are paedophiles themselves?

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:03

Groucho



He didn't say that and you must know it.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:14

The difference is quite simple. One thread was posted to discuss or raise the questions that many have over the position of the Pope's State visit to the United Kingdom and the problems in the recent living existence of the victims, of child abuse carried out by some members of the Catholic Church. The other thread was a deliberate and provocative posting with no other purpose than to cause controversy.



The thread was closed and because the poster could not take the warning they have had their posting privileges temporarily withdrawn.



John W I am happy to admit the the admins on here are not professional, that would surely entail being paid. However, the reasons for my actions are given above, you may not like them but I assure you that they are not driven by favouritism or bias.



Harold

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:17

Groucho mess 105 "the raping and buggering of children"



That's why your parliament lowered the age of homosexual consent.



Obviously as it wasn't involving the church you approve.

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:21

harold2555



Rule 3 is quite clear. It does not only apply to members. The insults to the pope, the catholic church and its' members has gone far beyond rudeness. Deecyprus4 has been unpleasant in the extreme. There is no way this thread is permitted under rule 3.



3. Be Polite

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:30

i'm lucky i'm a dyslexic athiest so don't believe in dog.............

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:36

JohnW...Frankly I don't care what you think of me, I will however voice my concerns when it comes to the welfare of children and a Pope that doesn't act and a church that harbours paedophiles...end of mate!

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:47

Deecyprus



I am sure that we have identical views on the actions of some priests (estimated to be from 1% to 3%) and the incompetent and self serving way the church seems to have dealt with them. The important thing seems to me to be the way that the victims are dealt with in future and systems and attitudes changed to ensure it does not happen again. Merely abusing the entire church and its' members is unlikely to help. The vast majority of priests and members are simply not involved in the scandal.



Think of you? I didn't say anything of what I think of you, merely commented on the things you said.



As I said much of what has been said on this thread is not within rule 3.

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:49

Alsanjackjack, apaqrt from being in contravention of rule 3 what purpose is this thread serving?

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:51

John W



I disagree with your interpretation of rule 3



Harold

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:54

msg121 john w , its still at the top , so people must be interested?

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:58

harold2555



So your interpretation is that we only need to be polite to members of this forum and that we can say anything we like about non members. Do you really believe that? Have you thought about the legal implications? You are flat wrong.

Goonerboy


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 723

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 19:59

I think all of this needs to be put into perspective.



Their is a major difference between the Pope and a Prophet. You can't compare the two.



If a thread was opened on an Imam, I'm sure it would remain open.



Long after the current pope has passed away, the institution of the Catholic Church will remain.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 20:14

I suggest all those who don't want to read discussion of this topic... don't.



Don't read it...



If your religion can't be questioned when it does something wrong it's not as strong as it ought to be.



As the Archbishop of Belgium has declared that not a single diocese in the whole of Belgium has a clean bill of health as far as Paedophilia is concerned I think the estimates of how rife and widespread this problem is are subject to review.



How much has yet to be reported by stigmatised children?

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 20:22

the problem as i see it is, that the pope in his previous job was supposed to attempt to clean this problem up, not sweep it under the table, he should have identified the priest and handed them over to the legal system, instead of moving them around to commit the same atrocities which has happened in other country's,what has happened as people have said, has happened in all walks of life but the cover up is disgraceful

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 20:26

Groucho

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PRIESTS ABUSE: http://www.religioustolerance.org/clergy_sex8.htm

Child and youth sexual abuse by clergy. An overview: http://www.religioustolerance.org/clergy_sex6.htm

Wilkopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

Rate of abuse compared: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/07/mean-men.html

The Nature and Scope of the Problem of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Catholic Priests and Deacons in the United States: http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/PriestAbuseScandal.htm

Catholic Priests Aren’t the Only Ones Abusing Children ~ Wicked Cliffy: http://cliffy.typepad.com/cliffy/2010/03/catholic-priests-arent-the-only-ones-abusing-children-wicked-cliffy.html

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 20:27

Goonerboy;



If you think that if this thread was about an Imam it would remain open



then you don't believe Arsene Wenger is sponsored by specsavers.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 20:57

faith in god.

nothing says 'i trust you god' like 3 inches of bullet-proof glass

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:04

JohnW..I do not accept the percentages you quote and I do not care where they came from, they only represent those that have been found out and I am sure it goes much deeper.

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:16

They are not my percentages - look to post 128. Good grief, if it is "only" say 3% of priests it is huge. The system was obviously rotten.



Nevertheless I was at Catholic Boarding schools for ten years and only ever met one instance. One of my fags (yes we had fags) came to me one day to tell me he was concerned about an interest a master was showing in another boy. I went to the headmaster and said nothing more than "Father, I think there may be a problem with Mr.**** ( a master not a priest) showing an interest in *****. Please will you deal with it." The matter was resolved within the day.



My point is that not everybody is bad and it helps nobody to damn everybody.

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:22

Why is this thread remaining open ? you closed the post about the prophet so why not this, I in no way condone these crimes against young people of either sex, and the perpetrators should be prosecuted whether they are a Catholic priest, a C of E minister or any other religion.

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:24

Fair point go for it Jimmy Lad!!



Over to you Harold

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:27

Absolutely this thread is serving no purpose.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:29

Well Sal my old dutch and JohnW, 135 posts says otherwise

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:30

This thread is also off topic. The original question was "How sick are we as a nation?" So, should be closed on that basis alone. No one have ever even tried to answer the original question.



Come on Harold, do your duty.



Incidently I will be taking up with Ezet your proposition that rule 3 does no cover non memebers and it is OK to abuse and insult no memebers to our hearts content. I presume that includes the TRNC president and Ataturk and any stray Imam we decide to pick on.

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:39

Wasting your time with the izzie chap. He has an automated reply. "I am to busy to deal with Cyprus 44 please refer to the forum admins". Now you've got to either put up with the unfair bias with the clique or stand alone. Don't let the buggers get you down. You could always join me Pikey Jeennie and daisy wats er name, We have a right good giggle teasing and pulling legs.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:39

Who is Ezet, is he a new member?

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:43

Deecyprus



ROFL, the typo game is not one you should start playing.

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:45

Anyway deecyprus, if you want we can turn this into the typo/spelling/stupid mistakes thread and get it closed for going off topic. Is that what you want?

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:51

Deecyprus



Do you think rule 3 applies only to members or does it apply to being rude about non members as well?



What does anybody think?

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:51

john owning cyprus solutions you probably need 1 lol

Sal1262



Joined: 03/05/2010
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 21:52

John please I get banned when I play that game. Harold have a word! Probably dog hairs anyway with all the care she takes of animals. It's not easy keeping tidy at that age. Now stop!

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 22:49

This thread is now closed.



I have closed this thread because it has become the latest cause celebre of certain trolls who have an agenda nothing to do with the thread itself but about causing disruption on Cyprus44.



It would have been refreshing to have an adult debate on a serious matter but that it appears was not possible.