internet club ( tic) must change antenna

Bernies


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 17:47

any one remember or got a link to paul advising that isps in trnc would need to change the antenna and the costs in involved??





DO you know an any isps that have had to or done as Paul Aldred aka washerman advised ??

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 17:50

This will be interesting. LOL

proger1



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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 17:56

Washerman, I would just be interested to know what an isps is ????

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 17:58

Well spotted proger1 - I suppose Bernies was excited as he typed

dogeared


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:00

paul



isps = more than 1 internet service provider/ isp- isp = 1 nternet service provider/ isp-

but you knew that i am sure

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:01

Dogeared - Why are you answering for Bernies - couldn't be bothered to login and logout again?

Teresa


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:03

I just had that deja vue feeling thought i had lost a couple of years!!!!

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:05

Well said Teresa - sorry I haven't emailed you, I've been out working all day. I will complete over the weekend!

Teresa


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:06

No problem Paul still got some more stuff to send you will try to get it done tonight.

dogeared


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:07

not at all it does not take a great deal of common sense to work it out Message 6

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:13

Dogeared - as long as everyone knows that you are posting on the same thread under two different ID's

Bernies


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:18

sorry paul



i was in the garden, some of us are not glued to the pc ,



so what you saying in mess 6 ??

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Bernies


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:19

continued ...



CarlinLapta, Marisa, dippersgirl, DutchCrusader, Alicat, spanna, quackers,>>>Bernies<<< thetruth, ronnie1940, ant33,

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:19

So, why you answering for Bernies? Husband and wife team is it?

Bernies


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:20

,>>>Bernies<<< thetruth, ronnie1940, ant33,

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:29

RE msg 1, Bernies: (...) DO you know an any isps that have had to or done as Paul Aldred aka washerman advised ?? (...)

=> For one reason or another technicians from Nethouse Networks ARE changing their (square) antennas at the moment (free and it only takes 30-45 minutes). They are now smaller (brand: Motorola) and rectangle shaped. Nethouse is doing this, I'm told for about 4000 customers. For what it's worth and I have NOT done any speedtests, but I have the "impression" that my Internet software reacts faster.

Bernies


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Posts: 95

Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:39

This affects EVERY Internet service provider and not, just the Internet Club.



Members that paid £280 for a recent installation needn't worry about this but Members who paid £80 for installation of equipment or, were installed before mid last year need to consider whether they want to purchase the new equipment and stay with the Internet Club.



Anyone that wants to stay with the Internet Club should now contact us to arrange for installation of the new 5.8 Ghz equipment and for the others that don't, I recommend that you contact another supplier who is prepared to leave this matter to the very last minute or, one day, risk losing your connection because we are asked to switch off our 2.4 Ghz equipment.



JANUARY 2008



Message 16 shows pauls scam to be just a scam ???

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:41

Bernies - what?

Bernies


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:44

I have already negotiated a discount on a single order of 100 pieces that will reduce this cost to £200 for existing club Members that join in on the order. Please contact us to let us know whether or not you would like to be included in this initial order.





Kind Regards



Paul



memory playing up Paul ??



or ashamed you have been caught out ??

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:44

Wait a minute, Bernies! I didn't write my message to prove or show a (Paul Aldred) scam - I only replied with details as far as I know them to the question in your message number 1: (...) DO you know an any isps that have had to or done as Paul Aldred aka washerman advised ?? (...)

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:46

Everyone that paid to go on the 5.8 Ghz network (£147) had a new antenna installed AND had the same amount knocked off their next year's bandwidth payments. It cost everyone nothing!



I know that people don't like to get involved in this type of thing and I know that it's going back a bit but please, there must be some ex-internet club members that can remember?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:48

a Paul Aldred (sic - Alldred) scam?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:49

Bernies - I notice that you only joined recently, but I do remember the two question marks ??

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:52

RE msg 16, Washerman: Slightly off topic, but is the new antenna meant to serve a 5.8 Ghz network instead of 2.4 Ghz? (My Turkish was not good enough to understand the explanation of the Nethouse Networks technician ).

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 18:56

Washerman: (...) a Paul Aldred (sic - Alldred) scam? (...)

=> Mr Alldred I replied to msg 17, where a scam was suggested although a question mark was used. And of course I apologise for misspelling your name.

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:01

Actually Hans, no it isn't, but it is a better system than the old 5.8Ghz. Bernies is going back to when TIC's network was 2.4Ghz and the Govt. passed a law that said all ISP's had to move to 5.8Ghz. eXtend upgraded all TIC's customers

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:08

RE msg 26, Washerman: Thanks. I remember the "Government news about 5.8 Ghz" from publications in Cyprus Today.

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:10

Hans - yes, it was well reported at the time. Bernies may not have been able to afford a newspaper (I bet he blames that on me too)

harita


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:17

£143 .. Paul .. Memory not that good

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:20

Actually Harita maybe - did you get the same amount knocked off your next year's bandwidth payment so, it actually cost you zero?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:30

Harita, memory not that good?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:39

What this thread (and others like it) prove is just how few Northern Cyprus residents read this nonsense

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:45

RE msg 32, Washerman: If you expected more readers the thread should have been called "Washerman now sells Karaoke dishes - for free".

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:56

Hans - very funny!

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 19:57

Harita, memory not that good?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 20:23

Harita, memory not that good?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 20:46

Harita, memory not that good?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 21:06

Bernies........you didn't get much response to your thread. Can we assume that it was another red herring?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 21:15

"any one remember or, got a link to" Bernies true identity, otherwise his assertions mean nothing!

harita


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Message Posted:
23/09/2010 23:31

Washerman .. Oh deary me .. Mine is still good ..

Lilli



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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 00:27

you know who he is, had an email from him yesterday telling me nige had another stroke. i will try to post it, signed bernie the bolt

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 00:29

Liz! Remember what you promised.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 00:31

Flag this messageThat manWednesday, 22 September, 2010 7:27From: This sender is DomainKeys verified"Bernie theBolt" Add sender to Contacts

Hello Lillie,



I was told lyesterdayt he had another stroke and is in hospital again. It must be all the stress getting to him.





jimbo

Lilli



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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 00:39

sorry hans saw your post after. i promised not to reply to kyptron and i wont again xxxxxxxx

Washerman


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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 04:10

Harita - Harry Margerison, as your member's name is a mixture of your own and your good ladie's, I feel justified in asking whether she condones your comments on here.

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 06:13

Hi Lilli, so, are you saying that 'I' know who he is, because I am a little confused.



Is "Bernies" Nigel or, have I read it incorrectly?

Washerman


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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 06:30

Hans has confirmed that he remembers reading the report in the newspapers about ISP's having to use the 5.8Ghz radio frequency instead of the 2.4Ghz radio frequency. As far as the Internet Club was concerned, this meant that the equipment had to be upgraded. SO, Bernie's assertion is WRONG!



This claim has been made many times on this board so, I have dug out the list of people who paid for the upgrade and WHO, WERE REIMBURSED BY A REDUCTION IN THE COST OF THEIR NEXT YEAR'S BANDWIDTH PAYMENT (SO, IT COST THEM NOTHING) together with some other documentary evidence.



Now, obviously, I am not going to post it here! BUT, if Dave Gurr (Alsancakjack) or, Lilli or, someone else, agrees to be an impartial adjudicator, I am prepared to take this documentary evidence to show them. The evidence is irrefutable and proves that the upgrade didn't cost anyone anything. This libel can then, be refuted once and for all.



Personally, I doubt that they will want to get involved.

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 06:44

Harry, I know that we have had words about an unrelated matter and that you are upset with me, but does this justify your apparent lack of willingness to confirm a simple truth. You leave me no option:-



1. In February 2008, you made an advance payment of £140 (your memory is not that good) against 2009 bandwidth charges, to cover the cost of the equipment upgrade



2. You received the equipment upgrade.



3. You were re-imbursed from your next year's bandwidth payment - so, the upgrade didn't cost you anything (you paid a further £217 on 17th December 2008 - £140 + £217 = £357 (should have been £360) - you owe me £3. This gave you internet access to the end of December 2009

Groucho



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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 07:12

I can confirm that we got an upgrade from 2.4 to 5.8 ghz, paid for it up front and the full cost was deducted from the subsequent bandwidth payment in full.

nicka


Joined: 06/11/2008
Posts: 76

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 08:48

Morning all,



We also made these payments to Paul and then recieved the discount on the following years renewal.The service we have recieved from Paul has allways been good



I think an apology may be in order Bernies, or prove your unsubstantiated claim.



Regards

nicka

Bernies


Joined: 21/09/2010
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 09:05

Message 50



That is not a problem .



I apologise for any and all unsubstantiated claims or any thing else posted on here that is not true.

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 09:13

The question really is motive, Bernies, what prompted your posting of this thread, the implication of which is quite clear?



Someone trying to stir the shit and hoping something will stick is very very poor internet etiquette...



I know you have sort of apologised now (seems hardly unconditional to me) but why start it in the first place?



Hoping to sow seeds of mistrust?

Bernies


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Posts: 95

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 09:17

Message 52



line 3 ???



I apologise unreservedly for any and all unsubstantiated claims or any thing else posted on here that is not true.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 09:20

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.

dogeared


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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 09:22

internet etiquette...



have you seen some of the posts on here that are posted between 0030and 0200 ??