for the woman who stopped me leaving the auditorium tonight with my ow

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 01:38

with my own children!!!! I had to let them go homewith a complete stranger (as far as the do gooder was concerned) because someone thought I wasnt capable of makin it home with my own children, they had the police involved althought my kids were cryin there eyes out and wanted to come home with me.. explain this to me when you sober up you medling old cow !!! 05338853414

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 01:40

05338853414

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 01:44

would that be a woman with white hair.?



i got asked if i knew a taxi number from a woman,she wanted a taxi she said for a very very drunken woman..



I did not have a taxi number.



Was it for you?



You seem quite sober now!!



maybe she was wrong !!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 02:15

well thank god you are home safe with them now, what a shame to spoil your night. who was she x

scruffdog


Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 742

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 03:21

I did not stop this lady leaving with her children, she would not leave, even though the children were distraut and her friend wanted to leave. I was not abusive, both these ladies had car keys on them. An employee of Cheshire Homes ordered a taxi and insisted the lady went home, backed up by the paramedics. At no time were the police involved or called. If this had been the UK social services would have dealt with this is an entirely different way. The children were upset with their Mother, this they told to the lady and gentleman, friends of theirs, who saw them home.

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 04:07

I had to let them go homewith a complete stranger





SHAME ON YOU THEN !!!!!

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 06:34

didn't have all this grief in peanuts lol

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 06:47

piston broke ???

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 06:52

nick you must have something left lol

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 07:10

msg. 1

Ozankoymum,

You got many people concerned and they did their best for your children and yet you are complaining. It is very easy to be a parent but being a responsible parent not so easy. Shame on you.

ismet

juliamoons



Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 849

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 07:19

i agree Ismet and am glad the children got home in one piece. She was absolutely plastered and in no fit state to drive or be in control of children. Just my opinion of course.

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 09:19

RIGHT! I did not let my children go home with complete strangers, I said as far as the meddling woman was concerned.... She would have prefered that.



I NEVER DRIVE WHEN IM DRINKING... NEVER!!!!!!! ask anyone who knows me and they will always vouch for this!!!!!!!!!



I would not leave because I was so ANGRY because whoever you are approached me and said both my children and my friends little girl (who had been having a ball all night) should not be allowed to go home with me. I wanted you to explain to me why and you buggered off, leaving me seething!!!!!!!!!!!



CAN YOU ONLY IMAGINE!!!!!!! how would this make any parent feel???????



I went home with my friend and her daughter NOT A GENTLEMAN FRIEND!!!!!!



If we were in England my children would never have been out with me so late, because they would have been at their nannas... but this is Cyprus, and parents take their children out with them!!



Im Fuming that I was judged by a total stranger and by you lot on here!!!!

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 09:24

I had spent the ENTIRE evening dancing with the children down at the front.



If anyone thought I was incapable... dont you think my childrens teachers and headmistress who were there would have shown concern!!!!!?????????



If I had been stumbling over to my car, or not been able to stand upright I would appreciate your concern!!!!



But I was totally coherant, not considering driving, so what was it that made my parenting so bad that a total stranger approached me about my childrens welfare????



I wasnt PLASTERED!!

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 09:30

Ozankoymum - Sounds like you and the kids had a good time - at least all thing turned out well in the end!



AND we've all had our moments. You will always get do-gooders sticking their noses in.



I'd give it up on here though, because the snipers and wind-up merchants will target you and upset you more -evil lot!

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 09:44

Just furious thats all, had I been putting my children into a car, or totally blathered I would undersatnd, but I wasnt doing either!



I was dancing down at the front all evening with the kids and their teachers and all our friends.



Dont understand why someone would think my behaviour so shamefull or dangerous or unfit!

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 09:52

Ozmum I presume you were the blonde lady to the left of the stage

If so there is no way you were drunk

Drunks do not have that control and energy to last that long dancing IMHO

Sorry your night was spoiled you and the kids seemed to be having a ball

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 09:52

Ozankoymum, some folk will just stick their nose in where it's not wanted - a bit of power and responsibility in the wrong hands is dangerous.



I can understand you being upset, but as I say, it all turned out OK in the end.



Ask yourself this - hanging around this bulletin board is about as sad as it gets. I banned myself for a year because I spent too much time here.



BUT I have never disguised myself like an old witch and posted a photo of myself - JM, it is a disguise isn't it?



Take no notice!

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 09:56

Wanderer... that will be me!!



Wanderer and washerman.. thank you so much x



I have never been so upset by someone!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:02

Ozankoy mum we were at the opposite side from you and could see you all having a great time. The little girl was a joy to watch.

I think it is lovely to see kids at events like this with their parents and friends. As to you drinking I can't comment as I was nowhere near you, but in all fairness I didn't see you sit down all night.



Chris

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:15

I watched you also you seemed to be enjoying every minute of it. I dont know where you got your energy, but i didnt sit you sit down , you danced the night away. That little girl should have been on the stage, she was a little star, as were all the children enjoying the night.

juliamoons



Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 849

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:16

Ozankoy mum apologies from me. The woman that was plastered with lots of kids was sitting close to us at the back. Certainly not the blonde lady dancing down at the front (you). As said by wanderer there was no way you were plastered. Apologies again.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:27

ozankoymum.



you didnt look drunk from where we was,im curious why i got asked if i had a taxi number,okay,in england i got asked if i was a taxi driver !! maybe i look like a cyp taxi driver here or a fone book



And youll see from a few videos,also you did not look drunk.

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:41

Finally established what the hell had gone on last night...



The blond lady who stopped me leaving with my kids had been talking to a distressed little girl who was worried about her drunken mother and she was scarred to go home with her.



THAT WAS NOT MY CHILD!!



You stopped the wrong woman and accussed me of being unfit to take care of my children assuming the distressed child was mine.



Can you see why I was understandably FURIOUS!



I had an amazing evening, and so had my HAPPY children, who then became distressed at the fact that I was being told I wasnt able to take them home with me for being unfit!!



Thank you for your appology Juliamoons..



Zerochlor I will view videos and have a giggle now I have calmed down x

juliamoons



Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 849

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:45

I think the little girl that was distressed belonged to the lady sitting close to us at the back. She was a nice looking woman but totally plastered. She nearly fell on me and hubby a few times whilst scrambling up and down the steps (frightening). A case of mistaken identity Ozankoy mum again apologies.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:48

And an apology from Elko2 - too?



You were all quick to jump in and criticise this poor girl - some of you ought to be ashamed!



But then, don't let the truth or, facts stand in your way!

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 11:54

ozankoymum



becks take no notice you are a great mum any one who knows you will say so we know you will always put ypur kids and their safety first.

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 12:10

That reminds me, are there any children left there this morning as I was having such a good time with the music drinks flowing etc.. you just get forgetfull. Im going back to bed now but can pick them up about four. Thanks.

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 12:28

Got to Elko's message and couldn't believe it. How could you judge this lady Elko without all the facts? You're the one who has a mission to stand up for justice - you really should apologise now.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 12:34

Cypgab - there's justice, rough justice, TRNC justice and Cyprus44 justice - in that order!

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:15

I made my comment (msg. 10) after I read the original message from Ozankoymum herself. So I did not jump to any conclusions based on the statement of others. After I read all the following messages nothing has changed. This lady with her children caused concern for their safety and that is a fact. Whether she was under the influence of alcohol or drugs or non is irrelevant. There is nothing to apologise for because my opinion has not changed.

ismet

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 14:18

Like I said in message 17, "a bit of power and responsibility in the wrong hands is dangerous."



Elko, couldn't you sense the stress that this was causing for the lady concerned? Everyone has apologised except you.

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:14

Elko



I was stopped by a woman stating that she was not allowing me to leave with my children as my daughter was extremely distressed and concerned because she was scarred of leaving with me, and I was unfit to take care of my children.



My daughter had said no such thing to her.. she had been talking to the child of another woman.. I did not know this at the time therefore I became extremely unhappy at this suggestion because I had no idea why my child would say such a thing and why my behaviour appeared dangerous to my chidren..



My children were perfectly happy the entire evening up to this point and became distressed at what occurred at the exit as we were about to leave.



We had had one of the best nights out we have ever had in the time we have been here and me and my children danced for the whole evening.



Neither myself nor my children gave anyone any reason to be concerned.



I WAS WITH MY CHILDRENS TEACHERS FOR CHRIST SAKE!!



Do you not think they would

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:16

ozankoymum - don't worry, everyone realise now. Elko's post reflects more on his personality than yours. Don't worry!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:25

message 30



And what is a FACT? What lady are you refering to Elko? which lady with the children??

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:26

have show a little concern if I was in an unfit state??????



WERE YOU THERE?????



well the people who posted on here were and saw with their own eyes I was far from being a danger to my children! This woman was way out of line in what she said to me..

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:28

ozankoymum - I don't know what to say to make you feel better. Please......don't worry! Elko is th only one that hasn't retracted his blabber.



BTW, my wife and I live in Ozankoy, pop round for a glass sometime and bring the kids, we have two grandchildren, how old are your children?

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 15:42

I did not see any of this, as most of you know I was on Stage several times.



But I feel so sorry for this Lady to have been put in this situation, Thank God most of you have had the decency to apologise to her.



But unforutunatley over the years I have met so many people who will not apologise ( they seem to think it will belittle them), when in fact it does the opposite.



You know what they say it takes a big man to apologise, ..

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:25

Washerman, my little girl is 10 and my boy is 8, thats a very nice offer, I will, thank you.



Thank you so much everyone that has been kind, there are some genuinely lovely and supportive people on here.



Maybe I shouldnt have vented my anger on a public forum but I was bubbling last night I was so upset.



On a good note... What a fantastic evening it was, I really hope we have more of the same and I will certainly be looking to see more of those acts that were on last night. They were absoloutely outstanding.



Thank you people



Becky x

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:32

Becky....good on you. Put it all behind you and don't waste your time waiting for an apology off the big 'E'



'They' don't do apologies!

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 17:40

elko2



shame on you .

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:07

here here !

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:38

You have your views and I have mine. Of course I would apologise if I think I was wrong but I don't think so. I don't always go with the masses and I have enough self confidence not to worry about being alone. No wonder people are afraid to express an opinion on this board. Nobody has to go with the majority.

ismet

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:41

Seems to me this is a clear case of "mistaken identity" enough witnesses, yet the "most helpful member" has become the "most intransigent and I am always right member"



Easy just say sorry.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 18:41

message 30







And what is a FACT? What lady are you refering to Elko? which lady with the children??



Elko



you know better than most that hearsay is not a point to be taken.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:00

msg 44

Zerochlor wrote: "you know better than most that hearsay is not a point to be taken."

My comment was based on the original message of ozankoymum herself, nobody else. So there is no hearsay here and no mistaken witnesses.

I wish we could have the details from the lady who arranged for the safe return home of the children. Bear in mind that according message one the police were involved as well. Actually this board is not the place to discuss such private matters but since it appeared on this board I thought it my responsibility to express my frank opinion.



It is so easy to say its non of my business but it takes real courage and responsibility to act under such circumstances as the lady did and arranged for private transport. Well done to the lady who faced up to her responsibilities.

Now look at some of you. You may disagree with me but why the insults? Grow up please.

ismet

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:03

Elko, tut, tut!

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:04

I dont seek an appology from Elko



Elko, you are entitled to your opinion.. but to have an opinion, you have to be in possession of the facts.



Maybe you were right there and witnessed what happened and I was so drunk I could not be trusted by a stranger to leave with my own children.



Maybe all the other people who were there, who did witness me thoughout the entire evening, are wrong including my childrens teachers, headmistress and other school staff, who were dancing with me and my children throughout the entire evening.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:07

Ozankoymum.........forget it. I for one will not be buying his voltage regulators and other products from Ali Tektan anymore. I know where and when Brit' business is appreciated! He only had to say sorry!

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:40

my original message said 'as far as the meddler was concerned'



I would not let my children go with anyone else but me including the man who offered to take them.



I repeat... the distressed little girl who gave concern to this woman was not my child.



My children started crying there eyes out at the prospect of being taken home by a total stranger and at how upset I became after being stopped from leaving and being told Im unfit and my children are scarred of me!



A right mess.. and an upsetting one for both me and my children

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:42

enoughs enough Elko.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:48

message 48.



Because of opinions on here or attitude,i think its wrong to say youll boycott some 1s business or not buy there products.

Business and cyp44 are miles apart,enjoy cyp44 and keep giving a good service if in business.



Dont let cyp44 distract you from real life.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 19:52

Dave, your right, but it's said to me everday on here!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 20:17

well the ones who say should grow up and look at the real picture.



Everything is service and price lead,or the other way around.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 21:33

Merhaba Ismet.



If the alleged other woman who was drunk in charge of her child came onto the forum and openly admitted that she was the person that had caused the concern about the safety of her vchild and apologized, would you reconsider your decision to condemn a wronged party based on her understandably angry and distraught statement made in Message 1?



If you were to reconsider your comments, would you apologize for making them in respect of that person in view of that reconsideration

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 21:50

Lemtich,

The important thing here is not the presence of any (other) drunk woman at the place at the time. By the accounts of the wittnesses there was such a lady present and simply being drunk may not lead people to intervene. However there is absolutely no evidence that the lady who intervened mixed up the two ladies. Furthermore by the account of the original messge, the police was involved too. We had no account of how much the police were involved but I imagine they formed the same opinion, otherwise they should not allow anybody to interfere with the children. I expect that the police were also able to observe the behaviour of ozankoymum and gave the go ahead. Anyway, if the lady who intervened comes here and says sorry, I was mistaken, then of course it would change the whole situation. I believe that under the circumstances my comment was fair and reasonable.



Washerman,

My views are not for sale and commercial considerations do not affect my way of thinking on political and social matters.

ismet

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:10

What makes me laugh about the first post on this thread is why on earth did you post..The other woman may not have even been a member in the first instance ! When we left at appox 1am there was a young girl crying with her mother outside, and my thoughts were for the little girl the woman with her was asking her why she was crying and to stop.This child and mother could well have been you and your daughter or maybe the other mothers daughter...whatever way it is or was..yes there was children upset because their mother could not take them home, Maybe next time parents are going out to have a good time with their children find a driver or just do not drink drive in charge of either the car or children.My thoughts were of the child and I did near on stop and ask if they were all ok.my guess is someone who left just behind me did..you or the other mother lets hope someone has at least learnt a lesson here.!



Spider,X

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 22:20

Final word from me on the subject:

I have just had a private e.mail from the lady who sent the children home by taxi. There was no mistaken idendity. They were accompanied by a couple who knew the children and therefore they were not strangers to them. I am not going to reveal any more details on this private matter because I do not wish to hurt anybody but I hope this is taken as a good lesson.

ismet

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 23:03

Ismet



Thank you for your well reasoned and courteous response to my questions in my message 54.



Lemtich

branwell



Joined: 09/08/2010
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 00:04

We are often asked, are we not, why so many of us in 'this-day-and-age' pass by incidents without being 'the Good Samaritan'. The general feeling is that we don't want to get involved and allow assaults, injuries, illnesses and distress to continue without out saying a word ...it's not our business! There is an example here of why people DON'T do the right thing ....if you do, and you misinterpret the situation you are vilified for interfering or being a 'do-gooder'. And so, rather than having 'a scene' we abdicate our role as a citizen, don't we?

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 02:39

The lady did not send the children home by taxi.. 'this is what she wanted to do believing that I was in no fit state to take care of my chikdren based on the a conversation she had previously had with someone elses child'



My friend Linda took me and my children home.



At no time was I driving or atempting to drive home, we always take taxis when out on an evening or have a driver.



At no time had either of my children stated that they were worried or concerned, I got very upset at the suggestion of this and asked my child why they would say such a thing to which my daughter replied, I havent said that, and started crying.



The woman insisted that my children didnt want to go home with me, which they refuted and were crying.



I at the time could make no sense of what all this was about as i was not drunk, I had had no more to drink than any other parent there on the evening with their children, I think I may have struggled to write a ledgible message without spelling

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 02:47

mistakes at 1.30 in the morning had I been very drunk.



My friends and school staff who we had danced with all evening were not concerned for the welfare of my children because there was nothing to worry about.



I understand the need to step in when you feel children are at some kind of risk, and Im sure the school staff are very well trained in spotting these dangers, this one must have escaped them.

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 07:55

And my final word on this..



What this woman did was stop me at the door from leaving..

Told me that she would not allow me to leave with my chidren..

Said she would call the police if needed..

Told me I was unfit to be in charge of them..

Tried to arrange them to be taken with someone else..



And after total refusal of letting my children be taken by someone else and disgrace at what was happening, yes I did get upset and my children also became upset..



But she did not follow through with any of this after my steadfast refusal she only dissapeared leaving me to make my own arrangements in the end anyway.. and leaving me seething!!



This isnt taking control of a situation and following through for the welfare of a child, this was a 5 minute meddle, that caused me great insult and my children great upset after what was a perfect evening.



I wont continue to upset myself, my friends and family and all the people who know me day in day out all know what a good parent I am.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 08:03

Clear case of mistaken identity... will the real drunk mum please stand-up! Oh you can't... still too pissed!



Ozankoy mum, it seems you are owed profuse apologies that are not forthcoming. You and your kids at least know the truth.. just hope they aren't too traumatised to go to another concert... this sort of thing might make them fearful.



Those who still can't bring themselves to apologise for their mistake and remain mealy-mouthed... Çok ayıp.

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 08:22

Trial via the internet is not a good thing.



Ismet, until this thread I had thought you to be a reasonable and fair man. However seeing as you are happy to be part of this trial (as Judge and Jury) I (and many others) am forced to modify my opinion.



I know the "accused" opened the thread, but I thought you were better than this.



Sad!

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 10:05

Looks like nobody knows the full details of exactly what happened that night so not willing to comment.



Washerman,

A tad unproffessional to resort to not buying someones product for giving there opinion.



This thread is now closed



Reason: Herd mentality is developing.

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 10:06

I dont post very often on here , only occassionally to sell or buy or ask for advice etc, and the site has proved invaluable thus far. But when I see a " forum admin trusted member" respond in a manner I consider at best ill informed, at worst judgemental , I am most dissapointed. I have read all of the posts and it is reasonably clear that a case of mistaken identity has taken place, but yet still the "trusted member" refuses to acknowledge such a possibility...I will echo the views of others to say SHAME ON YOU!

I would like to think, that should I ever wrongly jump to a conclusion, such as the one demonstrated above, once the "facts" of the matter been shared I would be generous enough to admit a possibility of being wrong and apologise.



This episode has obviously caused a great deal of distress to the mother in question, and as a parent myself, can think of nothing worse than to be wrongly accused and demonised as an irresponsible parent. Again SHAME ON YOU "Trusted Member"

Pa-trick


Joined: 23/09/2010
Posts: 37

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 10:51

An administrator now needs to show a bit of common sense and curtail this thread before it descends into the usual debacle. There seems to be a number of 'final words' on the matter and considering the general subject matter (children welfare) maybe you can see that we have reached that point.



My final point on this matter is, Ismet, you need to show a little dignity and self respect for the board and it's members. You have taken a very arrogant, aloof and personally dreadful attitude for a' Most helpful member'.

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 11:03

I agree that people should always be on the look out for young children..



But somebody who intervenes to that extent should have at least the smallest idea on how to recognise the difference between a tired child and one who is genuinely distressed and in some kind of danger from its care giver, and also establish wether that scarred child was either mine or going to be in my care once leaving the auditorium.



That child was neither mine, nor was she ever going to be in my care once leaving the auditorium, so I was really gobsmaked by what was said and what followed.



Thank you for the people who saw me and know me and know that I always put my childrens safety first and I am not a bad or unfit parent.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 11:09

Pa-trick,



Then no further apology could be recorded...



I think somebody might want the opportunity to right a wrong... maybe, maybe not...

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 11:14

Unfortunately, that is what this board has become. How many times am I threatened with my business, my reputation, my livelihood on this board? How many times as this board been used to try to blacken my reputation?



The people concerned (and they know who they are) are a dispicable group of people.



With me though, they met their match.



Elko should have apologised, I recognised immediately that this girl was under extreme stress. Not everyone is as thick skinned as me!

Isabella


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 14:19

Reread message one and message 62 - there seems to be some inconsistency

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 14:34

Isabella, I think you are misreading post one... I think she was trying to say, as far as the meddler was concerned she (the mum) must let her kids go home with a stranger... she didn't.



You are falling into the same trap. It's not well worded I grant you.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 16:25

Groucho, she must be misreading post 1.



To those who have apologised to an innocent mother for being concerned that some stranger is determining how well she is looking after her own children, well done although I think some might have been a bit quick to jump to conclusions.

To those who have slandered the mother for having been confused with someone else in a crowd of people and then defending herself and her family from a busy body, I am appalled.

To those of you who are doing your usual and climbing on high horses when you know nothing of the situation, please remember the air up there is thin and you might just be suffering from lack of oxygen, wait till you have climbed back down to earth with the rest of us before making statements.

To whomever it was that decided to stop a parent and scare there children because you thought you were doing a good deed, I really hope you learned your lesson, stay away from alcohol, you are a danger.



To Becky, I hope you and the kids are

ozankoymum


Joined: 10/01/2009
Posts: 359

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 17:32

I think the main point is that intervention was unneccessary as I was totally capable of taking care of my children and at no point considering driving.



What followed was unneccessary upset and confusion to me and the kids.



There is no harm done, It just made me extremely upset at the time.



Sorry for calling her a medling old cow, Im not normally so rude, maybe she had the best of intentions, just her manner toward me incited my upset behaviour and initial post.



I dont ever normally have my children out with me so late, but I didnt want them to miss out on this event.



The kids and I had had a most wonderful evening and Im just sorry that all this occurred at the end.

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 17:56

OOps. Another post where a lot of interest, lot of money to those concerned - not in the topic - so it cannot be closed.

as stated on other headings - downhill - rapid - abusive - North cyprus information??????????????????????????

Somebody in charge needs to get a grip on reality. life is for living - not abusing!!!!!!!

You never know - yours may unfortunately end tomorrow. God forbid.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 19:10

It seems that some of you are hell bent to discourage people from helping people in distress. I said above that it is my final post but I am forced to publish this e.mail with no name of course:

Quote:

Dear Ismet



I am the lady that arranged a taxi for Ozankoymum, her 2 children and her friend (and daughter), who she admits was drunk, but does not mention she is a friend. No where have I said Ozankoymum was drunk, nor that I wanted her children to go off with strangers, the couple knew the families and spoke to the children, they were concerned enough to take them home. Originally when I followed the first lady, who was drunk and picked up her car keys, I found all the children were sitting on the ground near the exit and crying, I went over to see what I could do. Ozankoymums little boy, probably 5 -6 years old was sobbing his heart out, his sister, her daughter later kept apologising for her mother, an 8 - 9 year old apologising? Eventually they all got into a taxi, helped by the paramedics, except the friends daughter, she refused, because she was frightened of Ozankoymum, (her own words) they all got out, and this is when I was verbally attacked. I have had experience with difficult adults in theUK and hopefully know not to antagonise them, but to no avail. They all went home with these friends,after the taxi drove off, and then this tirade in Cyprus44.



I just want to say thank you for your comments, I feel have been wrongfully victamised, but your comment has restored my faith in human nature, thank you again.

end of quote.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 19:14

So Elko, without me reading through all the text here. Are we saying that your comments/opinion was/were true, but you were talking about someone else? If so, just say sorry to the lady concerned!

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 19:27

Ismet, I do find it unusual for you to involve yourself in something like this without having more details about what happened. I can understand from the mail why you might have felt justified to a point by your previous comments however it is as usual only one side of a story and ironically addressed to you in private originally which I find strange although not unusual for the person to write her side of the story to the one person who appears to be sympathetic to her decision to get involved.



In your message 10 you accused the lady of being an irresponsible parent and then wished shame on her, you also stated that they did their best for her children, as a parent yourself I am sure you would be distraught if a stranger was telling you how to look after your own children when not knowing the full situation.



I understand why the UK has problems now as all of the experts for everything are here, ref- I worked with difficult parents comment, so typical of some C44 members

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 19:28

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.

berilela


Joined: 17/07/2010
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 19:46

ozankoy mum you should know by now your not allowed to have a drink or enjoy yourself with your kids as people dont like it they seem to think you have to stay at home well good for you having a great night with your kids as i do with my little girl .dont worry hun just take it with a pinch of salt xxxxxxxxx deb an leyla