∆ Plagiarism on this board

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/08/2008 20:57

Find out more here: http://tinyurl.com/5gwqw7

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 01:22

Could you repeat that?



wyn

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 08:58

OK, Wyn, no problem: Find out more here: http://tinyurl.com/5gwqw7



And probably for Wyn only: just click with your mouse on the link.

aslan


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 10:17

Once a article is published on the web it will be open to plariarism, copying e.t.c and I would imagine that most authors except this as part of the worldwideweb evolution.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 10:30

Are there not breach of copyright rules?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 11:22

No1Doyen : (...) Are there not breach of copyright rules? (...)



Yes. And they apply for the WWWeb also. No exceptions. Although the rules vary in many countries and the local/national courts have the last word - until there is complete and adequate EU-legislation.

littlenige



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 11:36

common curtasey if you felt tae need ot use someone elses word at least gie a tributute to the author

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 11:53

Nigel,



The author (journalist, photographer, graphics journalist etc) have THE RIGHT to get a full credit with his work. Any author has the copyright on his work. And no such work may be used without the written permission by the author or the holder of the copyright (can be a paper, a publisher etc). Crystal clear ain't it?



Regards,

Hans Doeleman

Journalist

littlenige



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:01

common curtasey would also apply i maintain.



Please and thankyou cost nowt and manners maketh the man I was taught many years ago and it still stands me in good stead.

jock1



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:06

Has anyone on this forum ever repeated a joke that they have seen on these boards, or related a story.

Dont know what the fuss is about, if anything it's highlighted more info on pools.

ONLY MY OPINION

JOCK

simbas



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:22

for pity sake , it's a bit extreme is'nt it , does it matter so much if someone repeats a bit of knowledge he's read off another forum , it's just sharing , it's all a bit much , it would'nt bother me in the least , i've more important i could worry about , but it does say something about the person who is complaining , he's hardly a team player , wants all the glory for himself

have a good day , simbas

elko2



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:23

We all copy and paste jokes and we never know who he original author is but this is something different. Putting copyright matter to one side, it is common courtesy to mention the name of the original author and even give the source and the link where appropriate.



I have been quoted many times myself and indeed I like that but I do expect a mention as most people do.

ismet

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:24

jock1 : (...) ONLY MY OPINION (...)



You are entitled to have an opinion, although this does not mean that you know what you are talking about. Relating a story (giving the impression that you wrote it yourself) is called plagiarism, breaching the copyright or more commonly "theft".

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:29

RE Simbas : (...) for pity sake , it's a bit extreme is'nt it , does it matter so much if someone repeats a bit of knowledge he's read off another forum , it's just sharing , it's all a bit much , it would'nt bother me in the least , i've more important i could worry about , but it does say something about the person who is complaining , he's hardly a team player , wants all the glory for himself. (...)



Simbas, can we share your bank account? Just sharing, you know. As good team players.

jock1



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:34

My opinion and im sticking to it.



jock

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:34

1 : The point is that some people live from what they write - their works should not be stolen.



2 : Some people write and don't like it when their work is stolen - and they are right (the subject of this thread).



That, Simbas, is what it is all about.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:51

Hans, without being pedantic, we all copy and paste articles, jokes, quotes sayings etc, however you cannot expect us to acknowledge the author every time we post something - can you.





Art is either plagiarism or revolution.

Paul Gauguin (1848 - 1903

MarkVpiazza


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:51

Simbas and Jock

I'm all for sharing knowledge, hence the time I spent compiling the original guide and placing it on VillaOwners BB where everyone can read it -not just members.



When someone plagiarses a work, and then accepts thanks for spending all the time writing it, I think it shows that they are not of an honest nature and certainly not a "team player"



BTW I found another post of mine that Kevin & Dee had also copied and pasted word for word from VillaOwners, so it's not an isolated incident.



Mark







Mark

simbas



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:52

forgive me dutchcrusader , i know what it is all about , but surely a little information passed on does'nt have any financial loss attached to it , if thats the case , we will have to pack up forums like these { thats if someone 's job is in journalism or a craftsman who wants to hold on to his knowledge } as most everyone on this forum repeats what's already been said when a new poster asks a question .

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 12:54

RE Jock1 : (...) My opinion and im sticking to it. (...)



I didn't doubt you would, Jock1.

simbas



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 15:50

hi dutchcrusader , if i had gone public and posted my bank account details on the forum , then i could'nt really object to sharing it with others could i ? it would be there for all to see

regards , simbas

simbas



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 16:09

markvpiazza , i apologise to you , i only just read the thread for leaking pools , i had'nt done before , i thought that you were objecting to the passing on of information that you had posted on another forum , this person clearly says it was based on his personal experience { a blatent lie } i now know what you object to

once again i do apologise , i stand corrected

regards , simbas

PtePike



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 16:16

Passing off someone else's work as one's own is a pretty low thing to do. Even if the original author is a jumped up t*sser.









please note

as a literate person you could find an alterative description without having to resort tofoul language , youngsters use this forum

littlenige



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 16:17

now now cambel

PtePike



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 16:19

I have the defence of veritas, Nige. He gets no special favours here.

MarkVpiazza


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 16:57

For those members who may now be confused



I am a moderator on VillaOwners BB

Campbell/Pike/Eric Seans is currently moderated on this board, due to his foul mouth that he is often unable to control, as you can see from this post



Simbas, no problem. Thanks for taking the time to read the original post



Mark

Stubs


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 17:51

Mark you are a moderator on that board that is correct. Many of your posts have been directed at a certain member who's replies you also moderate, hardly a fair playing field is it?

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 19:28

Mark,



I have the greatest respect for you, and I admire you principles You have made your point!



Should we not leave it at that? We would like THIS board to be lighthearted, caring.



informative, and at times, downright stupid, if not funny!



Just my view (this statement is copywright) Jock1

rtddci


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 19:34

and free of advertising, PLEASE!

w26kay



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 22:01

Blimey Geoff, I didn't know you were a moderator on here?!

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 22:06

This is more like it. Just like the old times.

AJ

w26kay



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 22:13

Geoff



I have to disagree with most of your comments. Sorry.



I really cannot comprehend your view of Mark. I have never been "moderated" by Mark in any post on VillaOwners. It very much depends on the content of your post, and whether that would be acceptable to the majority on a family forum. So, if it is not, and you know it's not, I really don't understand your difficulties? You run the risk of being "moderated" and it's a matter of common sense really.



Have a great evening. Lovely to see you posting again. x

w26kay



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 22:14

Wow AJ long time no hear! How are you?

dalartokat


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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 22:16

Yeah, flies like a butterfly, stings like a bee.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 22:45

Hi Kay

Yep I am good, how is you and your other half? I have been busy,busy,busy.

This board is almost like the old days.

Take care

AJ

w26kay



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Message Posted:
15/08/2008 22:53

Lovely to hear from you, how's the music going? How are you in general? Are you enjoying life? Maybe out there soon for a hols, so would love to meet up for a jamming session. I can't sing and I can't play BTW lol x

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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 06:53

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DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 08:19

SAFFI : Your message has nothing to do with the subject of this Thread: "∆ Plagiarism on this board". Why didn't you start a new thread? What you do is called hijacking and it's damn annoying.

SAFFI


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 13:39

I am so sorry, message 39 was meant to go on the efendioliver thread,

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 13:58

We all quote information gained elsewhere: encyclopedia, internet, technical journals, workshop manuals etc., and generally there is no need to acknowledge such 3rd party sources, but when one simply regurgitates a fellow BB members posting as their own, with changes that suggest it originates from your own personal knowledge/experience, then that is unacceptable. Mark is quite right in being hacked-off.

aslan


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 14:15

We are quite lucky in the TRNC, all students here graduate without plagiarising any primary or secondary research from the web or journals!! pure genius !!



(c) 2008 Aslan. All rights reserved

ilovemydogs



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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 15:09

i know i am being thick again but i can't figure out who is supposed to have done this

graham


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 15:16

Read this thread.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/3065.asp



Graham

ilovemydogs



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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 15:31

ok thanks.. got it now

rtddci


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 15:52

Personally I think this plagarism is outrageous. It reminds me of some original thoughts I've had recently that I'd hate to find someone else nicking 'whether it is nobler to the eye' (choosing wallpaper) 'I'm just popping out I may be sometime' (off tt Tesco) 'peace in our time' (I got the tv remote control back) 'we'll fight them on the beaches...' (re terrible litter problem in NC).

Martin

jock1



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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 15:58

OK wyn.............

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 16:46

someone sent me a message with that information on that they had found obv from pizza man i passed it on the same way it was not and award winning piece or though i found it very helpfull when my pool was leaking and passed it on accordingly all the bad shit going on in the world and this had made headlines dutchcap you live in a fantisy world anyway and pizza man need i say anymore now

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 17:07

I love you too, deecyprus4.

cruggs


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 21:00

personally, i think plagiarism outrageous. i had an original idea the other day

but can`t remember what it was. a punch in the eye for being so sly

interior design. i"m off to( asda,s )won"t be long. make love not war, i took

the battery out of the remote control,we will paddle in the puddles in the pool

re bad literacy problem in n/c. just a few of my original thoughts recently.

please dont copy. lol

rtddci


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Message Posted:
16/08/2008 22:13

I was just thinking about the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune of plagarism but then again ........