What's happened to Freedom of Speech on Cyprus 44?

Goonerboy


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 723

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 10:56

Forums offer a premise of open and free discussion where members can hold conversations, ask questions, offer advice....etc



Recently I've found Cyprus 44 has begun to adopt a tone reminiscent to George Orwell's 1984 "How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time...every movement scrutinized."



The thought police here being some MODS.



Whilst members are free to offer good and bad comments on certain businesses, it has become apparent others CANNOT be touched.



This morning a member posted about Sunny Lane, yet one post was removed and the other closed. We have a lot of members on here who all have children and Such posts are very relevant for all members to gauge opinion on the school.



Earlier in the summer several posts were done congratulating the school, a few on exam results and a few on the football and they remained, yet it seems YOU CANT BE CRITICAL..

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:02

Good luck Goonerboy, we all enjoy this board in our various ways, but you have more chance of being pecked by a DODO than making sense of it.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:02

welcome to the world of cyp44!

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:04

Goonerboy



You can be critical if you want but the message that was deleted contained unsubstantiated personal comments about an individuals private life.



It was a rant, not a thought out critique.



Don't believe in conspiracy theories all the time





Harold

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:06

You are only paranoid if the Bas***** are NOT out to get you!

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:09

Does a post have to be well thought out to be allowed?

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:14

post deleted for " inferred'' comments



is the strangest one seen in recent times.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:18

Have to agree with Harold there, even on NCFP, with a much more lax attitude towards naming and shaming, we would expect any accusations to be substantiated. In the case of Talat Kurstat law firm's out-of-date ISO9001 certificate we only published when we had checked the evidence. Cyprus44 allowed the allegations to be published here and, for me, that's evidence enough that they do not censor unnecessarily.

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:21

There is quite often no reason given....Does that mean they are yet to decide why they do not like it?





At the end of the day....this is just the tinterweb...........so who cares?



The sun is still shining and I will be off for lunch at Salamis with my lovely wife soon.



44 will still be there for my amusement later.

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:37

So complaints about bars/restaurants should not be allowed if they are unsubstantiated?

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:42

"So complaints about bars/restaurants should not be allowed if they are unsubstantiated?"



You are slowly catching on. Though to be fair there are some places you are allowed to attack and some you dare not touch.

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:49

I read the post about the British Academy and have to agree that the post was more of a rant directed towards the owners rather than a constructive debate about the services provided (or not) by the school.



I don't suppose the fact that the school is a paying advertiser on the forum had anything to do with the decision to close the thread.



Cynical, me ??? Never !!!



Paul

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:50

Glyn



Don't you mean:



Some people many attack all places all of the time even if unsubstantiated



Some people may attack no places at all ever even if substantiated



Some people may attack some of the places some of the time if randomly substationated/unsubstantiated

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 11:52

I doubt Lincoln would appreciate you murdering his statement.

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 12:05

Can you substantiate that?

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 12:06

I am sure there will be copious amounts of forensic evidence. If not I will fabricate some!!

dougskud



Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 356

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 12:20

Hi all good morning



Although only spending about a third of the year in NC I probably visit C44 most days I am in the UK.



In general I think the management of the various postings is about right.



There are times when skirmishes between factions develop into pointless and childlike name calling, on these occasions I really do wish the administrators call a halt.



regards

Doug

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 12:32

substantiated, in effect, could simply mean able to support the accusations in a court of law.

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 12:54

Mal

Very well put, especially in a British one, the internet knows no borders

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 13:10

I closed the two threads and deleted one and banned the poster for one week. Of course we can write and complain and air our views but when you start three different threads all about the same thing and it is obvious that its a personal vendetta against somebody or institution well beyond well meaning comment, then the right thing to do is to close it and give the perpetrator a cooling time by banning him for a week C44 should not be the place for unchecked libels and slanders.



If we want to keep this board as it should be, then we all ahve to assume responsibility and not complain about moderation and lack of moderation quite too often. so we have to moderate in "moderation" and I believe this is what we have been doing.

ismet

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 13:22

Yes freedom of speech is restricted.

You have to take into account that the website owner is legally liable for his sites contents.

Read the rules, then its up to you if you join and post or not. But why join and then moan about it?

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 13:33

I totally agree with Elko's decision to close the threads this morning. This person has only posted nasty comments on the school since they joined, they have made no effort to join in other threads, comment, or offer advise.



Chris

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 13:45

trouble is a few on here just carry on holding grudges and they then come on here moaning and groaning about posters. Almost trying to start childish vendettas.



This forum is for every ones usage, some you like some you dont, thats life.. But some make it their business to stalk others on all forums, now that is a serious disposition...

Some come on here to just moan that nobody uses their cafe, taxi or whatever, and then dont like it if explained why nobody uses their premesis, thats this forum, some accuse others of multible posting names, why is that a problem, nobody is perfect, 44 has become a disjointed forum of those that cant and those that think they can, the latter to the detrement of 44,.....

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 14:11

In the time I have been posting on here I have come to know that if you make a point and the loudmouths agree with it you are fine, but if they do no agree the usual Essex-type slanging match ensues and you are vilified and made to feel the lowest of the low. The culprits know who they are!



Just my personal opinion.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 22:33

This thread is now closed.



Reason: Thread has run its course and will not be resurrected