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andre 514

Joined: 31/03/2008 Posts: 1163
Message Posted: 16/08/2008 04:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 5 in Discussion |
| Just read the Presidential Adviser's interview in today's "Star" online With reference to the current technical discussions, Mr Nami states that, "No agreement has been reached on three fundamental issues: Security, Guarantees and Property Issues" Ozdil observes that limited progress had been made over EU and timetable questions, the GC side appearing to accept that the talks could or should operate to a reasonably prompt schedule... and that the work of the technical committees was in no way taking over the role of the official negociations (or words to that effect) but... Well, it looks to me very much as if those close to the process do not feel there is the basis for an agreement at this time And therefore at any time Many subscribers to "44" have spoken out earnestly about the pitfalls of "peace at any price" even though TC and immigrant voters were willing in 2004 to chance a "yes" vote for the Annan Plan the South's rejection then, and their lack of real movement now suggests to me that their "no" willl remain "non" Annan has become the great Shibboleth in that everyone agrees that it must not be re-examined or it will detract from the present negociations, yet if a deal is ever voluntarily agreed between the two communities it is not likely to be hugely different from Annan Talat said things will be "very difficult" for Turkish Cypriots if an agreement could not be achieved And the TRNC would be in for a rough ride from the world slowdown, the tourism slump and continued isolations So let us list all the positive things instead: North Cyprus has great potential for tourism and property revenues once this "little local difficulty" is sorted The TRNC is relatively unspoiled by aggressive over-development and has unique resources of natural beauty and amazing people North Cyprus is well protected by a powerful friend who will stand by it Eventually the economic blockade is bound to ease allowing the country to export again and prosper and North Cyprus, having gone that extra mile, will be accepted on a de facto basis as restrictions begin to break down In three years' time, the water pipeline will turn much of the scrubland into a Garden of Eden and the South's tongues will hang out at the thought Well, they had their chance also with resolving land and property issues: and they blew it... LONG LIVE THE TRNC!!! LONG LIVE NORTH CYPRUS!!! Yours Optimistically, Andre |
Troodo

Joined: 12/06/2008 Posts: 1002
Message Posted: 16/08/2008 09:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 5 in Discussion |
| This is what the GC’s have been waiting for, a financial crisis in the TRNC. Instead of selling the country down the river the government needs to get its act together. Get rid of the nepotism, which is so rife in this country, and start collecting the taxes and implementing the laws that are needed instead of picking the pockets of their own citizens. There is a mountain of money out there to be legally collected, it just need a collective will and the brains to go with it. We desperately need an election here, and it is coming. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!! Troodo Happy to live in the safe area – still – I think. |
andre 514

Joined: 31/03/2008 Posts: 1163
Message Posted: 16/08/2008 11:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 5 in Discussion |
| troodo, the points you make are quite valid but I'm not sure exhortation will do the trick I cannot comment on internal trnc politics, but there is a need for modernisation and reform just look at what estonia has done in that regard (we will gloss over 1941-1944, and now a menacing eastern neighbour) I do think that if a "solution" cannot be arranged with the other side, then the pressure will be on to find an "answer" for water and energy supply and the country can benefit from technical guidance and to find expertise wherever it can... so as to unlock its full potential as far as the gc's are concerned I think the rank and file would accept various forms of compromise but the church seems not prepared to budge at all and there is ongoing resentment from (the gc's!) who "lost" property, that nothing will assuage even though things have now moved on considerably there are honest alternatives on offer to both communities... and the character of north cyprus as of now and where its practical and security interests lie is a whole new ball game: in comparison with the terror and attacks of the 60's and 70's andre andre |
millzer

Joined: 12/04/2007 Posts: 978
Message Posted: 17/08/2008 00:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 5 in Discussion |
| Just a minor point Andre, but the TRNC government is already accepted as the 'de-facto' (in fact) administration in the area of Cyprus under Turkish control. It's for it to be recognised as De-jure (in law) that we all crave. |
andre 514

Joined: 31/03/2008 Posts: 1163
Message Posted: 17/08/2008 02:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 5 in Discussion |
| yes that is quite true millzer outside organisations already deal at a practical level with the "authorities" in north cyprus to be recognised de-jure would be difficult on the other hand taiwan is still doing pretty well, having been chucked out of the un in favour of the prc and maintaining "interest offices" instead of embassies oh and er... china's parliament passed a law allowing the prc to take back the island by force if necessary: kinda re-unication without bizonal bicommunilism, as it were andre |
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