I don't think he got it wrong

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:23

Christofias has folk up in arms by saying Greece invaded Cyprus - just like Turkey ... *I* think they ( the desperate Greek Generals) *did* invade and gave Turkey the excuse they needed.. I'm also pretty sure that they were all stirred up by the US.. and that CYPRIOTS lost out..



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/christofias/christofias-returns-firestorm-over-invasions-comment/20100930

gooligan


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Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:30

Read those earlier,still cant believe that so many GC's dont know their own countries history.

loulou



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Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:32

because they have been brain washed for years

YFred


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Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:42

He has actually said something which is correct. The GC have been kidding themselves the coup was just a small matter with just a few hundred soldiers involved, but ignore the fact that the whole of the NG were under the Junta. The only people against them were a few thousand Police which were very lightly armed. They had no chance of beating the coupists. The GC children have been fed historical crap all their lives. May their God help them cause nobody else will.

gooligan


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Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:44

At least some of them know what went on,others still say that not 1 TC was harmed in any way,was obviously listening to the government broadcasts on the wireless in 1974

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:54

Re : Msg 1,



"...I'm also pretty sure that they were all stirred up by the US.. and that CYPRIOTS lost out.. "



mx6, stirred up by the US AND - you forgot to mention - Russia ( USSR at the time).



Otherwise I agree with the rest.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:57

Mark,



It's always in the interpretation.. I think he was making the point that the Greek Mainland-inspired Coup has served the Cypriot nation poorly... Not least because it led directly to the intervention.



There are those (seemingly in denial) who will not have a negative word spoken about the culpability of this action. Here at least is a man who knows that he can not paper over this period of history. Good for him. It's a start...

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 21:00

Really surprised he (Christofias) said it,what with the elections coming up.The Turkish intervention to a Greek cou de ta,is the way i read it.Such a shame this isnt taught in the Greek/Greek Cypriot schools,from a very early age,

Paul.

apc2010


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Message Posted:
01/10/2010 00:57

paul , i have always said a little knowledge is a dangerous thing ..........



btw can you provide the curriculum for us....????

Lemtich



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Message Posted:
01/10/2010 01:16

Its all very strange.



Whenever I read about Greece's Colonels involvement with Cyprus in 1974 and their attempt to overthrow Makarios and install Nicos Sampson as a puppet leader, I get this strange Deja Vu feeling about the Argentine Junta's invasion of the Falkland Islands in 1982 and General Menedez's installation as Govenor of the renamed Malvinas.



Each time it ended in military disaster, expulsion and the political demise of their respective military governments.



What is it about Military Dictatorships and their attempts at foreign island invasions to whip up Nationalist fervour to counter their domestic economic failure?



And yet how those who welcomed it are still in so much denial.



As I thought, very strange. I'm sure there's a message in there somewhere.

apc2010


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Message Posted:
01/10/2010 01:49

lem , people are sheep some times ,,, it is happening again ....when people watch e.g. x factor/ big brother is the same , brain washed .....

unfortunately in cyprus at the time the media were'nt so strong to by.pass the non -problem ...



both sides had there own welfare to protect...........

andre 514


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Message Posted:
01/10/2010 03:15

I wonder who is really interested in all this, in the world outside?



when you look through the british press there is no mention at all...of cyprus

apart from the occasional travel feature obviously, there are more relevant issues

the orams business got some coverage but that now looks like a red herring



don't misunderstand, I'm not trivialising the events of 1974 gosh no,

however each side interprets them...

but intercommunal fighting began in 1963, and that doomed "muti-ethnic" cyprus



it is almost embaressing to read about all the backbiting and recrimination

about who said "whatever"



I did predict all this in an earlier posting where I suggested that if 'tof fails

to be in kyrenia by xmas etc etc etc he will be in the doghouse for keeps,

only by blaming turkey can he wriggle out of his discomfort zone



not an impossible task, unlike regaining the north,

since the turks are proud and obstinate:

but no-one will risk their necks to placate the greek cypriots

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
01/10/2010 09:27

andre re 12



THIS topic WAS about Christofias ;)...



Groucho re 7



You have read my mind as to his thinking..it used to be an AKEL pro-rapprochement stance ...



Why I'm confused is WHY he is sayng this NOW - having torpedoed Annan and why a DISY MP - his party having been PRO-Annan would revert to the 'right ring' support of the Coupists..



Clariisa re msg 6



Yes- good point - The Soviets were making offers of support for the 'rump' RoC and would have been only too glad to see the UK lose access to the military bases