Ongoing dispute with Alpan Uz, his business partner and Unwin Estates

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 13:20

Hello people,

Yes i know I've been absent for months but I'm not lucky enough to have a 9-5 job so I have to go to places most people wouldn't consider. You can look at my recent trip to Sierra Leone on the same web site that I've added a page about being ripped off in Cyprus I've just bought a shirt with a slot in the back so the mug handle can stick out.



http://www.johnpattison.co.uk/index.php?id=28



No communication with Alpan uz or Mark Unwin in years but I do get updates Mustafa Baykan the partner in Uz Bay Investments. Mustafa would really like to make contact with all buyers with information but he has only a few names from the list of 21 that bought on the same development that I did.



it would be wrong to post his personal e-mail address here but if you are one of those people please contact me and I'll pass your details to Mustafa Baykan so he can contact you directly.

robinhood


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 71

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 14:22

sorry to hear about your bad experiance,,, I got your money now p**s off is why you havent heard from Alpan or Unwin... try HBPG they may know of other buyers on your site

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 14:58

Done that -

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 15:08

IvorBankloan,



Are you in Cyprus or the UK on Monday, you could join either Pauline at the Silent Candle lite virgil



or



you could join us in London at the "Protest" !



If your farther afield maybe a friend or relative could join us?



I am very sorry to hear of your ongoing problems, and either way wish you well!

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 15:12

Why anyone would buy off plan here is beyond me.

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 15:13

I'm in UK today, Greece from Tuesday for a week then Italy so i'm sorry I can't be at your meeting

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 15:36

The Protest is on Monday 4th October in London at the Turkish Embassy, it's to try to get Turkey to understand the problems buyers are having in the TRNC, if you happen to be in London on Monday, before you go to Greece on Tuesday please join us you will be made very welcome! hopefully there will be many there! all with dreadful problems

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 16:10

Re msg 1 - where have you bought as i have friends who also went down the same road

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 16:20

Re mes 7

I'm flying from a northern airport so London isn't on route I'm affraid but pls send me feed back on the meeting

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 16:28

re Mes 1 Scotty

Esentepe.

Bought in 2005 and still waiting for Alapn Uz and his prtner Mustafa Baykan to sort out their difference.



One of the most annoyng things has been the total lack or interest, support or response from Mark Unwin's business Unwin Estates and Munir Akil the lawyer recommednde by Umwin Estates.



Alpan showed his true colours by moving his assets into his mother name in case he had to pay back and Mustafa has his own reasons for taking Alpan to court (none payment of his share) and 21 buyers have been left out of pocket by anything from £20k - £60k each. Mark Unwn asked some of them for second dtage payments before the villas wwere at the second stage so he face fraud acusations by some buyers



By the way does anyone have another means of contcating HBPG because both e-mail addresses on the net bounce back as does filling in the page on their web site

mamachina


Joined: 22/11/2008
Posts: 730

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 18:17

New address - marian.hbpg@gmail.com = or i this the one you are using?

Web address http://www.hbpg-trnc.net

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 19:10

Dear John



I was shown, 4 now failed developments by the Lying Estate Agent. A respected UK GVT Agency, said they would do anthing for money. Anything.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 19:22

John, can you find out from another Solicitor (not Manure....Sorry Manur Akil) if there is a Mortgage (charge) on the land?

You may well be fighting for nothing, sorry to be so cynical.



Vicki

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 19:32

John you are fighting for what is yours, thats the bottom line.



If you have your paper work, relating to the bank transfers , paid into into lying estate agents account, thats good.



We are dealing with finnacial terrorism, the are not concerned with your family status or feelings.



There are a group of agencies, in UK , US & Turkey, who want to establish whe money has gone.



This lot don't give a shit about anything but money, which makes them venerable to other groups.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 20:08

Oh dear Julie, we're back to this are we?, you signed a legally binding contract, then decided that you couldn't afford it (DUH!!!),Unwins refunded their part (which they didnt have to), the builder decided to hold you to your contractual obligation, hence you lost £7k.



Quite simply You screwed up(and were very lucky that Unwins took pity on you), Now any attack on Unwins, you chuck in your two penneth worth.GET A LIFE!

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 21:32

Thanks for the feed back everyone, I've made no secret that if we can't get justice legally I'll get it another way, it's just when is the right time to call in "alternative justice". I'm told October will end the legal process but that doesn't neccessary mean we buyers get our villas or money back.

Today alone 109 people have read the piece on my web site and the same piece is being posted throughout Europe and USA so Alpan Uz and Mark Unwin are just about finished in the property business.



The bit I really cannot understand is why the xxxx is Unwin Estates still adervertised on this site? Have some respect for the people he's ripped off.

natalie


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 21:46

Come on guys whatever or whoever Wheeler is or is not, Unwins are the pits and like it or lump it, we all know that. How they can sleep at night is beyone me

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 22:37

Message 16,

Good luck with your crusade, but to post intention on a public forum by way of "Alternative justice" could be a big mistake, silent intent and a rock solid alibi is best.

My question is if Unwins are the biggest crooks in the TRNC???

Why are they still making money and in business??? their just estate agents not the Mafia..............

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 22:57

Blackpoolfan, (mess 18)



that's your opinion "their just estate agents not the Mafia" !!! (your words)



To many victims they were the "The front men for the Mafia" you tell me "why they are still making money"? and being allowed to trade?



Perhaps you should try and understand how the TRNC Government works? corruption uncontrolled?



is OK

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 23:03

I know how the government works thanks, they are clueless clowns.

Then that means you are saying that all officials,police,advocates are all corrupt????

If what has been done is illegal is their no path through the court albeit a slow process or are they all corrupt as well????

throstle


Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 85

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 00:05

IvorBankLoan

We purchased on same site

Marian and Anne have our details

Throstle

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 00:15

Dear John Pattison



I hope you kept your paperwork and bank transfers docs.

Jwheeler&Sons


Joined: 10/06/2008
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 00:26

Dear John



Email me your transactions to julie.wheeler@talk21.com and I will give them to the Turkish Embassy official on Monday 4th October.



All the best



Julie

4paws


Joined: 05/08/2009
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 03:38

VERY BEST OF LUCK JOHN, hope it all turns out as you wanted.



4paws

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 13:07

Estate agents are just a shop window, they put buyer and sell together, then their job is done.

Why blame them ?

We purchased through Unwins and we had excellent service. We had no problems with them at all and would use them again.

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 18:45

Saturday is always a busy day looking after an 81 yr old Parkisons sufferer so I'll respond to all this on Sunday.

If this a was a 50s movie I think we'd have a lynching party after the Unwin people - alas - we have to abide.

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 18:47

Life is hard, It is even harder if you are stupid.

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 18:53

Blade



Got to agree with you mate we dealt through Unwins and have no complaints at all 100% professional throught the whole transaction. You can not blame the estate agents for construction company problems.

halffull


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 19:30

Another happy Unwins customer.

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
03/10/2010 22:31

a bit of an update on the curret situation at



http://www.johnpattison.co.uk/index.php?id=28



Re 27 - not sure if you're calling me stupid or you mean something else.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
03/10/2010 22:34

i think you are far from stupid xxx good luck

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
03/10/2010 22:37

Re 11 Thanks for the e-mail adddress i'll try again but that is one of 2 I've tried



Re 13 - I think it could be. I was told it wasn't but the owner Mustafa Baykan has several laons on propertry. I'll try to find out from his directly



Re 21 - You may want to red the update on my web site, I think you've already been contacted my the land owner http://www.johnpattison.co.uk/index.php?id=28

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
03/10/2010 23:06

Lilli, I referred to Glynn on message 27. I wouldn't expect such an unwarranted remark but you never know.

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
03/10/2010 23:38

I have used Unwins no problems and would use them again. if I had a problem I would have dealt with it by now without the posturing.

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 07:29

Think yourself lucky then, for every 'satisfied' Unwins customer there are probebly TEN unhappy ones!!

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 08:22

You could say that about any estate agent anywhere in the world.

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 09:28

It's too easy to hide behind idle threats on a forum like this. if people have a problem they should deal with it rather than continually subject the rest to a stream of unsubstantiated rumour and innuendo.



Re message 35 your use of the word probably says it all. No proof no facts just jumping on a bandwagon.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 10:07

Msg 25. What you mean is, they temp the "MARK" and initiate THE STING!

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 12:00

Re 23

Julie, I sent 17 scanned pages so the send may fail. let me know if you don't receive and i'l send in smaller lumps. I'm away early hours of Tuesday so I may not reply for a wek or so.

IvorBankloan



Joined: 14/08/2009
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 12:55

http://www.unwinestates.com/teaminfo.php?tid=2

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 13:12

So you posted Mark Unwins business profile what does that prove?, as quite a few of us have said we purchased with them without problems.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
04/10/2010 13:25

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